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March 07, 2022, 11:47:07 AM
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Its a must for him to set aside his personal problem and focus on this fight. Its been delayed for months already due to his health issue so this time he needs to give his best to defend his title.
if this issue distracts him from his training and his fight it could cause him to lose his title belt and probably his chance of fighting Inoue. it would be a shame if that happened.
It will distract him if he is guilty, if not them he would not mind it as he is confident he will win the case.

That will have an effect on his preparations. Schedules of the hearing might be a waste of time for his fight preparations, either he's supposed to be training or resting during that day. This will not only cause him physical distractions, but mentally as well.
It doesn't mean that you are falsely accused and you're automatically confident because you can win it. Court trials are tricky af. You could be jailed and pay for some moral damages if your lawyer failed to defend your case.

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March 07, 2022, 12:45:55 PM
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Its a must for him to set aside his personal problem and focus on this fight. Its been delayed for months already due to his health issue so this time he needs to give his best to defend his title.
if this issue distracts him from his training and his fight it could cause him to lose his title belt and probably his chance of fighting Inoue. it would be a shame if that happened.
It will distract him if he is guilty, if not them he would not mind it as he is confident he will win the case.

That will have an effect on his preparations. Schedules of the hearing might be a waste of time for his fight preparations, either he's supposed to be training or resting during that day. This will not only cause him physical distractions, but mentally as well.
It doesn't mean that you are falsely accused and you're automatically confident because you can win it. Court trials are tricky af. You could be jailed and pay for some moral damages if your lawyer failed to defend your case.

He has to face that challenge, but if he is really trained well, there should be no problem during the fight night. The problem is already their, facing it is the only solution, besides, if he wins this case, he could counter the lawsuit to clean his name and let the accuser pay for the damages done to his reputation.

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March 07, 2022, 12:48:56 PM
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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.
It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.

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March 07, 2022, 12:54:08 PM
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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.
It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.
If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.
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March 07, 2022, 01:14:30 PM
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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.
It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.
If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
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March 07, 2022, 03:53:29 PM
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Its a must for him to set aside his personal problem and focus on this fight. Its been delayed for months already due to his health issue so this time he needs to give his best to defend his title.
if this issue distracts him from his training and his fight it could cause him to lose his title belt and probably his chance of fighting Inoue. it would be a shame if that happened.
It will distract him if he is guilty, if not them he would not mind it as he is confident he will win the case.

That will have an effect on his preparations. Schedules of the hearing might be a waste of time for his fight preparations, either he's supposed to be training or resting during that day. This will not only cause him physical distractions, but mentally as well.
It doesn't mean that you are falsely accused and you're automatically confident because you can win it. Court trials are tricky af. You could be jailed and pay for some moral damages if your lawyer failed to defend your case.

He has to face that challenge, but if he is really trained well, there should be no problem during the fight night. The problem is already their, facing it is the only solution, besides, if he wins this case, he could counter the lawsuit to clean his name and let the accuser pay for the damages done to his reputation.

Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.
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March 07, 2022, 04:00:03 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.
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March 07, 2022, 05:42:26 PM
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Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.

No update but I also see the same thing, maybe Casimero deal with it behind doors, a good offer to solve this issue or the legal

counsel of him are doing quite moves to solve this issue without any interference from mainstream medias, you said it right, the

justice system mostly siding with the victims but it can also turn things in favor of him if the price is right.
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March 07, 2022, 06:09:25 PM
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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.
It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.
If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler was offered to fight another fighter in replacement of Casimero, but he chooses not to and wait for Casimero so that the opportunity is still there to win a belt.

Or someone just advise him to just sit it up and wait till everything settles down. And it was a good decision on their part, as the WBO gives the signal to resume the fight for next month.

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March 07, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
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Its a must for him to set aside his personal problem and focus on this fight. Its been delayed for months already due to his health issue so this time he needs to give his best to defend his title.
if this issue distracts him from his training and his fight it could cause him to lose his title belt and probably his chance of fighting Inoue. it would be a shame if that happened.
It will distract him if he is guilty, if not them he would not mind it as he is confident he will win the case.

That will have an effect on his preparations. Schedules of the hearing might be a waste of time for his fight preparations, either he's supposed to be training or resting during that day. This will not only cause him physical distractions, but mentally as well.
If he is training in the US and there will be a court hearing, would that mean that he has to fly from US to the Philippines? I think that is very stressful and it's really a complete distraction.

It doesn't mean that you are falsely accused and you're automatically confident because you can win it. Court trials are tricky af. You could be jailed and pay for some moral damages if your lawyer failed to defend your case.
I understand because not everyone who is in jail is guilty, some are innocent, they just lose the case because they don't have a good lawyer, but in the case of Casimero, I'm sure he can afford one.


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March 07, 2022, 09:08:34 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.

Exactly, without a belt, no champion would be interested to fight a fighter unless he attracts the crowd and the fight could generate a lot of money. Meanwhile, I read a rumor that the Donaire vs Inoue rematch is targeted this year, April to be particular, so maybe the winner of that fight could face the winner of this fight.
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March 07, 2022, 09:22:58 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.

Exactly, without a belt, no champion would be interested to fight a fighter unless he attracts the crowd and the fight could generate a lot of money. Meanwhile, I read a rumor that the Donaire vs Inoue rematch is targeted this year, April to be particular, so maybe the winner of that fight could face the winner of this fight.
Butler really did great decision, he needs good exposure and fighting for the belt is a big thing.
This is not possible if Donaire and Casimero win on their respective matches because they are already under one promotion team, and they tried to have a fight before but both of them agreed not to proceed it since they are both Pinoy, Inoue against Pinoy boxers are most possible.
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March 07, 2022, 09:45:15 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.

Exactly, without a belt, no champion would be interested to fight a fighter unless he attracts the crowd and the fight could generate a lot of money. Meanwhile, I read a rumor that the Donaire vs Inoue rematch is targeted this year, April to be particular, so maybe the winner of that fight could face the winner of this fight.
Butler really did great decision, he needs good exposure and fighting for the belt is a big thing.
This is not possible if Donaire and Casimero win on their respective matches because they are already under one promotion team, and they tried to have a fight before but both of them agreed not to proceed it since they are both Pinoy, Inoue against Pinoy boxers are most possible.

But I have a doubt that Donaire would be able to win against Inoue. They already fought before and it was Inoue who dominated the fight, so I expect the same scenario and I also expect that after the fight Inoue would go to be an undisputed champion in the bantamweight before moving up, and that means he has to fight Casimero.

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March 07, 2022, 11:57:44 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.

Exactly, without a belt, no champion would be interested to fight a fighter unless he attracts the crowd and the fight could generate a lot of money. Meanwhile, I read a rumor that the Donaire vs Inoue rematch is targeted this year, April to be particular, so maybe the winner of that fight could face the winner of this fight.
Butler really did great decision, he needs good exposure and fighting for the belt is a big thing.
This is not possible if Donaire and Casimero win on their respective matches because they are already under one promotion team, and they tried to have a fight before but both of them agreed not to proceed it since they are both Pinoy, Inoue against Pinoy boxers are most possible.

But I have a doubt that Donaire would be able to win against Inoue. They already fought before and it was Inoue who dominated the fight, so I expect the same scenario and I also expect that after the fight Inoue would go to be an undisputed champion in the bantamweight before moving up, and that means he has to fight Casimero.

we can't say that for sure. remember, donaire is also a technical boxer and since he already experienced inoue inside the ring, he knows where to improve next. so this is quite interesting also to watch. if for some reason, donaire will beat inoue, more then likely there will be trilogy... that's boxing though. so long these promoters can milk their boxers, they will.
but casimero should settle first this butler's fight before thinking of inoue.

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March 08, 2022, 05:30:09 PM
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Butler could choose to fight with another fighter but he would not win a belt because the belt was not taken from Casimero, that's why Butler just choose to wait just to have a shot on the title by fighting the defending champion.
He got that option but he choose to wait for this big break for his career.

It's a title fight and worth waiting. If he manages to take Casimero down, he will hype up his name and the changes in his career will be
big, I see the point of not choosing to fight with another boxer.

The belt is the most important one for any fighters who step inside the ring. They wanted fame and afterwards, the money
that will be behind the belt that they've got.

Exactly, without a belt, no champion would be interested to fight a fighter unless he attracts the crowd and the fight could generate a lot of money. Meanwhile, I read a rumor that the Donaire vs Inoue rematch is targeted this year, April to be particular, so maybe the winner of that fight could face the winner of this fight.

Righ! That belt is used as a label that the boxer who is carrying it is a champion of that specific division and that same belt also attracts the people that leads to the money.
I also read about that earlier this year that Donaire and Inoue would do a rematch as both camps is also interested about it and currently having talks about it but as time passed by, it didn't materialized and there's no update about it at all.
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March 08, 2022, 10:38:05 PM
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It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.
If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.
Well, they'll for sure going to be qualified during the weigh in day.

They don't train for long just to be disqualify and miss that weighing requirement before the match that they've been waiting. But about the health condition of Casimero.

Let's wish him all the best for his health and it's been a long time already and he had been able to take a rest. Just hopefully, it won't be something bad during the actual fight night.

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March 08, 2022, 11:28:49 PM
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If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

There will be no case like that since Butler has no other option but to only face Casimero. He's the next boxer on the rank behind Casimero. If he will fight other boxers, those are below his rank and it's a waste of opportunity since it will take several months again before able to has an opportunity again to fight Casimero.

Butler is already in good shape and preparing seriously for this fight. I'm sure he won't have a problem during the weigh-in. Casimero, since already failed once, is the one we need to monitor and trust his nutritionist to give their best to make Casimerio in good shape on the weigh-in day.

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March 08, 2022, 11:59:22 PM
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They don't train for long just to be disqualify and miss that weighing requirement before the match that they've been waiting.

Unfortunately, that's not what happened to Casimero after training for long.

His medical condition spoils all the training he had and the worst, his title is now put in jeopardy.

If he failed to miss the weigh-in again, his WBO title will now be finally stripped and be vacant.

Let's wish him all the best for his health and it's been a long time already and he had been able to take a rest. Just hopefully, it won't be something bad during the actual fight night.

Right. Him being healthy is now on the hands of those persons who are responsible on doing it. Aside from that, Casimero should also take part being a responsible now to take care everything about his health.

We are looking forward for this fight to happen. Seeing delays really suc*ed especially we are sick of seeing it during the pandemic.

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March 09, 2022, 10:27:32 AM
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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.
It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.
If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler was offered to fight another fighter in replacement of Casimero, but he chooses not to and wait for Casimero so that the opportunity is still there to win a belt.

Or someone just advise him to just sit it up and wait till everything settles down. And it was a good decision on their part, as the WBO gives the signal to resume the fight for next month.

If Butler and his camp accepted the offer then Casimero is really on a dangerous situation because he could lose that belt as he is really obliged to follow the WBO's decision and good thing he was given a 2nd chance after he was hospitalized just a few hours before the weigh-in.
Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

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March 09, 2022, 11:25:15 AM
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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.
Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.
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