[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[agustina2]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

Casimero since the beginning does have a behavior like that. That's not because he wants to market the fight. But the difference between him and those other boxers that do trash talks is, he is able to prove it on the actual fight.

Beating Casimero will be the hardest job for Paul Butler in the history of his boxing. But if he was able to do it, that's big news and his career will change for good.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Fight Butler and then knock him out, simply formula to get the attention of Inoue and his camp.

Or maybe the other way around, what if Inoue would chicken out after seeing how Casimero knock out Butler. We know that he is undefeated and working with the Top Rank promotion, would Bob willing to risk his cash cow against a known good counter puncher that has the ability to KO an opponent?

I don't think boxers are chickening out just because their supposedly opponent knock out someone. This game is about "machismo", - masculine pride. So Inoue will be more likely wanted to fight Casimero and show who is the tougher and who will be knock out. Bob though is a wise promoter, just maybe he will wait it out and try to milk Inoue more by fighting other names first. There was a rumor already that Inoue vs Donaire is going to happen this year so Casimero will have to wait and fall in line again.

Just like what I emphasized, Inoue still depends on his promoter, if Top Rank does not want to risk him against Casimero, then the fight will not happen. I believe that Casimero had already won big fights int he past that could attract the attention of Inoue if he really want to fight him, Casimero beat Tete and the boxers after that fight, so why still he cannot sign a contract with Casimero?

You are right, for me Casimero Vs inoue is the fight that seems most exciting to me, in fact I think that both boxers want to fight internally, we do not know if there are already some contacts, some arrangements, but I think that before all this they want to make the most of it with other boxers, from what I have said, because of the enormous business model that exists in boxing, millions of dollars are put at stake here, and the profit for each promoter is very juicy, they know that with just one The fight between Inoue and Casimero will be many more millions, but they see it as killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, because the fans are the ones who practically give life to boxing, and oxygen (money) to the promoters.

[Kemarit]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

Casimero since the beginning does have a behavior like that. That's not because he wants to market the fight. But the difference between him and those other boxers that do trash talks is, he is able to prove it on the actual fight.

Beating Casimero will be the hardest job for Paul Butler in the history of his boxing. But if he was able to do it, that's big news and his career will change for good.

Probably just for bragging rights, so I would say that the behavior is normal, we have seen it in Ali and other legendary boxers who trash talk but they can back it up. It's one thing to trash talk, but other if you can't back it up in the ring.

And as we have seen, Casimero can do his trash talking because his records speaks for itself and maybe that's why he is so arrogant about it. But who knows, maybe he will face some boxers that is tougher that him and can handle his power.

[Dave1]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

Casimero since the beginning does have a behavior like that. That's not because he wants to market the fight. But the difference between him and those other boxers that do trash talks is, he is able to prove it on the actual fight.

Beating Casimero will be the hardest job for Paul Butler in the history of his boxing. But if he was able to do it, that's big news and his career will change for good.

Probably just for bragging rights, so I would say that the behavior is normal, we have seen it in Ali and other legendary boxers who trash talk but they can back it up. It's one thing to trash talk, but other if you can't back it up in the ring.

And as we have seen, Casimero can do his trash talking because his records speaks for itself and maybe that's why he is so arrogant about it. But who knows, maybe he will face some boxers that is tougher that him and can handle his power.

Yeah, but it's better for Casimero not to talk that way, it will just sway fans of him because they are not used to seeing him attacking his opponents with trash talk.

He is already known in the boxing scene before because he has the courage to go to the opponents home soil and beat them up. He should just continue doing this like in the Paul Butler fight because trash talking might back fire on him.

[harizen]

The undercard is now getting in shape too. As per recent news, some names involves in the undercard for this Casimero vs Butler main event are Rocky Fielding, Jazza Dickens, Sam Maxwell, Blane Hyland, Will Cawley, and Harry Kinsella.

Mostly, on Super Middleweight and Super Lightweight class and some are climbing up ranks.

Let's see if there's a considered big fish that will join the undercard of this fight.

You are right, for me Casimero Vs inoue is the fight that seems most exciting to me, in fact I think that both boxers want to fight internally, we do not know if there are already some contacts, some arrangements, but I think that before all this they want to make the most of it with other boxers, from what I have said, because of the enormous business model that exists in boxing, millions of dollars are put at stake here, and the profit for each promoter is very juicy, they know that with just one The fight between Inoue and Casimero will be many more millions, but they see it as killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, because the fans are the ones who practically give life to boxing, and oxygen (money) to the promoters.

It's a good thing that the Casimero-Inoue bout is not pushed last year as we know what happens to Casimero last December during the weigh-in and just only a day before the fight with Paul Butler. That will result in Inoue not taking Casimero anymore due to medical issues.

It's good that WBA stepped in and assign a mandatory title defense for Casimero since at least, Butler will just wait until Casimero can now finally fight instead of Inoue that once the fight is canceled, he will move on to another one as part of his followed timeline.

[TravelMug]

^^ It's mostly local boxers in the undercard, and it should be a good exposure for them fighting on the undercard and show their talents not just in UK, but around the world as well.

I would love to see Casimero test Inoue, on the other hand, it's good to hear that Donaire will have another chance against Inoue. He gave Inoue the hardest part and for sure he has learned a lot of lessons from that fight and he would adjust and reset everything in the rematch. Casimero will have his time soon if he get past Butler first.

[Japinat]

^^ It's mostly local boxers in the undercard, and it should be a good exposure for them fighting on the undercard and show their talents not just in UK, but around the world as well.

No local boxers from the Philippines from the names posted by Harizen, and personally, I don't know any of those boxers in the list of undercards.

I would love to see Casimero test Inoue, on the other hand, it's good to hear that Donaire will have another chance against Inoue. He gave Inoue the hardest part and for sure he has learned a lot of lessons from that fight and he would adjust and reset everything in the rematch.

Yes, Inoue will certainly adjust but it's not only him, for sure Donaire have some plans on how to win the fight.
Though the last fight ended a UD win by Inoue, this time, I hope it will be different, it will be a more unpredictable fight.

Casimero will have his time soon if he get past Butler first.

That's right, if he can successfully defend his title, he get the chance to fight against Inoue.

[molsewid]

Yeah, but it's better for Casimero not to talk that way, it will just sway fans of him because they are not used to seeing him attacking his opponents with trash talk.

He is already known in the boxing scene before because he has the courage to go to the opponents home soil and beat them up. He should just continue doing this like in the Paul Butler fight because trash talking might back fire on him.

Casimero is now being known not just as a good boxer but also a man full of talk, a trash talk to his opponents by the way lol. I mean, it's truly better for him to not talk that way, trash-talking will not going to help him to become a great fighter by the way, and will not probably going to help him to win the battle against Butler or against whoever opponents he will going to fight inside the ring. Instead of wasting his time to trash talk his opponents he should better use his energy to his training that way it could greatly help him to his upcoming fight.

[chaser15]

Yeah, but it's better for Casimero not to talk that way, it will just sway fans of him because they are not used to seeing him attacking his opponents with trash talk.

He is already known in the boxing scene before because he has the courage to go to the opponents home soil and beat them up. He should just continue doing this like in the Paul Butler fight because trash talking might back fire on him.

Casimero is now being known not just as a good boxer but also a man full of talk, a trash talk to his opponents by the way lol. I mean, it's truly better for him to not talk that way, trash-talking will not going to help him to become a great fighter by the way, and will not probably going to help him to win the battle against Butler or against whoever opponents he will going to fight inside the ring. Instead of wasting his time to trash talk his opponents he should better use his energy to his training that way it could greatly help him to his upcoming fight.

Even back during the time he is starting his boxing career, it's already known by some that Casimero is really a trash talker. The attitude was being carried now that he's a champion. I don't know if he knows the meaning of being humble but don't expect that he will change that kind of attitude.

This year, there's no report that he does any trash talk to his opponent. He really should keep that way and focus on his health.

Paul Butler is not even doing the same way. He understands that he is an underdog. I like his attitude of just focusing on his preparation.

[mirakal]

He needs to get this fight on his favor to maximize the chances of fighting Inoue sometime this year soon. About Casimero's nutrionist and conditioning coach, I saw a video on YouTube that MP Promotions have selected Jeneath Aro to be his nutritionist and that they won't give Casimero some slack because Butler is a former champion too.

Jeneath Aro is a good nutritionist too and if I'm correct she is the nutritionist of Magsayo as well. What Casimero really needed in this Butler fight is a good nutritionist as we all know that he is gaining weight far from his fight weight whenever he is on a break which could entail heavy work to bring back to his weight limit for a fight thus causing him troubles.

I'm mentioning this on my previous post that the real opponent of Casimero is himself. If he could get his weight limit before a fight with a well condition body then Butler will have trouble in the ring facing him.

Correct, she's so good that almost everyone she helped had a medal and have win just like what she did to Hidilyn Diaz, she's also the conditioning coach and nutritionist for Magsayo. Good thing that Casimero have her on his back to watch his weight because as you said, Casimero is really having some difficulties on his weight as he can gain fast even if he just rest for a bit.

[Pamadar]

He needs to get this fight on his favor to maximize the chances of fighting Inoue sometime this year soon. About Casimero's nutrionist and conditioning coach, I saw a video on YouTube that MP Promotions have selected Jeneath Aro to be his nutritionist and that they won't give Casimero some slack because Butler is a former champion too.

Jeneath Aro is a good nutritionist too and if I'm correct she is the nutritionist of Magsayo as well. What Casimero really needed in this Butler fight is a good nutritionist as we all know that he is gaining weight far from his fight weight whenever he is on a break which could entail heavy work to bring back to his weight limit for a fight thus causing him troubles.

I'm mentioning this on my previous post that the real opponent of Casimero is himself. If he could get his weight limit before a fight with a well condition body then Butler will have trouble in the ring facing him.

Correct, she's so good that almost everyone she helped had a medal and have win just like what she did to Hidilyn Diaz, she's also the conditioning coach and nutritionist for Magsayo. Good thing that Casimero have her on his back to watch his weight because as you said, Casimero is really having some difficulties on his weight as he can gain fast even if he just rest for a bit.

That might be a catch for Butler. Aro knows how to work with his clients

Having her inside Casimero's camp, the fighting chance is high, monitoring his weight and have a good routine
to make sure that everything will be working together, both body and all those foods and supplements are well
Monitored. If Casimero will be fit before the fight, Butler will be in trouble knowing how Casimero moves inside
the ring he's still on his prime and his speed and strength are big factors why he still has his belt.

[freedomgo]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

Casimero since the beginning does have a behavior like that. That's not because he wants to market the fight. But the difference between him and those other boxers that do trash talks is, he is able to prove it on the actual fight.

Beating Casimero will be the hardest job for Paul Butler in the history of his boxing. But if he was able to do it, that's big news and his career will change for good.

It certainly depends on the situation, there are times that doing some random that trash talk helps the both camp sell the fight even more and make some hype for the fight, yes for the avid fans trash talking won't be needed but they are just trying to make other people curious about them so that others who doesn't know them or not their fans will also watch them out of curiosity.

Don't take it wrong because I got your point. What I'm trying to say that aside from the fact that we knew that Casimero is very talkative not at times but surely most of the times he opens his mouth even if he doesn't need to, but the reason is just an another marketing strategy.

[Oasisman]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

You don't believe that? Well, I respect your beliefs, but trash talking that creates bad blood will obviously sell more tickets and will hype the match. That is what the fans wants to see.
Even with the different sports, they need to create drama to sell it to the fans.
If you notice Mayweather, he is a good boxer, but why does he need to be cocky or arrogant? That's because some boxing fans find his fighting style as boring, unlike Manny. But then again, being an arrogant boxer might only be a role, but in personal life they are actually not.

[Sanitough]

Its normal in this industry because every noise they made counts as this add up the interest of their fans to watch the game since trash talking will build up some hype and controversy to the fight which people like to see its no fun to see if they are both silent knowing Casimero is well known to his bad mouth techniques. Maybe the better thing to do is how his opponent can react on Casimeros trash talk if he slow down in the middle of the fight and been dominated by him then expect that more from this will come.

I don't believe that trash talks will make the fight hype. In the first place, if they really believe that they have a good name, fans will really watch their fight. That attitude is more of being arrogant and non-sense.

Casimero since the beginning does have a behavior like that. That's not because he wants to market the fight. But the difference between him and those other boxers that do trash talks is, he is able to prove it on the actual fight.

Beating Casimero will be the hardest job for Paul Butler in the history of his boxing. But if he was able to do it, that's big news and his career will change for good.

Probably just for bragging rights, so I would say that the behavior is normal, we have seen it in Ali and other legendary boxers who trash talk but they can back it up. It's one thing to trash talk, but other if you can't back it up in the ring.

And as we have seen, Casimero can do his trash talking because his records speaks for itself and maybe that's why he is so arrogant about it. But who knows, maybe he will face some boxers that is tougher that him and can handle his power.

Yeah, but it's better for Casimero not to talk that way, it will just sway fans of him because they are not used to seeing him attacking his opponents with trash talk.

He is already known in the boxing scene before because he has the courage to go to the opponents home soil and beat them up. He should just continue doing this like in the Paul Butler fight because trash talking might back fire on him.

I also believed that it's much better if Casimero learns to be more observant without the need to open his mouth. But like as you both guys said, Casimero has proved many times that he is not just for talk because he can also make it happen and beat his opponents on their own soil and the one who's going home bringing the glory and belt.

I think it's almost impossible that Casimero will learn to behave, even if he lose I'm definitely sure that he will talk even bigger.

[Yaunfitda]

He needs to get this fight on his favor to maximize the chances of fighting Inoue sometime this year soon. About Casimero's nutrionist and conditioning coach, I saw a video on YouTube that MP Promotions have selected Jeneath Aro to be his nutritionist and that they won't give Casimero some slack because Butler is a former champion too.

Jeneath Aro is a good nutritionist too and if I'm correct she is the nutritionist of Magsayo as well. What Casimero really needed in this Butler fight is a good nutritionist as we all know that he is gaining weight far from his fight weight whenever he is on a break which could entail heavy work to bring back to his weight limit for a fight thus causing him troubles.

I'm mentioning this on my previous post that the real opponent of Casimero is himself. If he could get his weight limit before a fight with a well condition body then Butler will have trouble in the ring facing him.

Correct, she's so good that almost everyone she helped had a medal and have win just like what she did to Hidilyn Diaz, she's also the conditioning coach and nutritionist for Magsayo. Good thing that Casimero have her on his back to watch his weight because as you said, Casimero is really having some difficulties on his weight as he can gain fast even if he just rest for a bit.

It's good if Casimero will have someone very positive on his side and it could also trickle down on Casimero's winning mentality. As in sports you need to surround yourself with positive people so that you can inherit it. And hopefully he won't have that difficulties anymore to make this weight because it seems that he has outgrown this weight by the looks of his physical body. But hopefully with with the new trainer, everything will still be smooth and making weight is not a problem.

[passwordnow]

I also believed that it's much better if Casimero learns to be more observant without the need to open his mouth. But like as you both guys said, Casimero has proved many times that he is not just for talk because he can also make it happen and beat his opponents on their own soil and the one who's going home bringing the glory and belt.

I think it's almost impossible that Casimero will learn to behave, even if he lose I'm definitely sure that he will talk even bigger.

He has something to prove and he's different from other boxers that are just all talk. At least with him, when he boasts, there's really something to boast.
But I do agree that he has to behave and I'm sure that it's not impossible, he can do that. It's just all about that his attitude is like that but if there's a need to keep silent, he'll be silent.

[Peanutswar]

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

[Finestream]

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

No trash-talk from him now, that's quite new from him, maybe he has other plans. 

[Vaculin]

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

it's expected that he can show his dominance in the ring because Butler is not going to run like Rigo.
However, we have to remember that Casimero is not fighting in the US, he will be in the home court of the enemy, so that's a big challenge for him although we know that he has been a road warrior ever since.

No trash-talk from him now, that's quite new from him, maybe he has other plans. 

Maybe soon we will hear from him, still a month to go before the fight, their tour has not started yet so no more talking for now.

[Taskford]

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

it's expected that he can show his dominance in the ring because Butler is not going to run like Rigo.
However, we have to remember that Casimero is not fighting in the US, he will be in the home court of the enemy, so that's a big challenge for him although we know that he has been a road warrior ever since.

A huge challenge for fighting on opponents territory since its he might not do a extra curricular activities inside the ring just like what he did on his past opponents since he experience to get harassed by the fans before. But I believe this will never happen at this fight knowing that this will consider as a big match and they will give a respect to both boxers.