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March 28, 2022, 08:58:46 AM
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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

That shouldn't be a problem for Casimero and his team if that's the case, as we read the article shared in the previous pages in this thread, we can read that the allegations is not solid and has many loopholes. But I do hope it's the second one, that they already solved that matter without any headlines from any news outlets and media and not just because the case is still pending, waiting for its turn.

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March 28, 2022, 09:52:28 AM
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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.
Because that can ruin his career if the woman is seriously pushing thru the case.
A lesson learned for him, and he should be careful next time. This will change his career and he may regret it in his lifetime.
And now that many people are waiting for his fight, he should not disappoint us for the next one.  Wink

I'm not sure if Casimero's promoter has taken care of that, it's beyond their service though, and it's a country wherein they don't have any control of.

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

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March 28, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

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March 28, 2022, 02:30:34 PM
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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

That shouldn't be a problem for Casimero and his team if that's the case, as we read the article shared in the previous pages in this thread, we can read that the allegations is not solid and has many loopholes. But I do hope it's the second one, that they already solved that matter without any headlines from any news outlets and media and not just because the case is still pending, waiting for its turn.

We don't know if the issue is true or not but in my own opinion looka like that issue is so shady and might the accuser only want to get money from him. But anyways if this is true then its good to see her got the justice what she deserve but if he only after the money which possibly she can collect then this is suicide attempt for her knowing Casimero has a lot of money and can ablw to pay good attorneys to clean up his name.

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March 28, 2022, 06:55:46 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

Yes, you're quite right about that mate! We have only seen the one side of the story and not the full story behind those allegations if it's really true or not, so it is better not to judge or speculate something that isn't appropriate. What we want is that Casimero won't be distracted about his upcoming fight as he is going to represent the Philippines and entertain the people around the world especially for those who supports him.

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March 28, 2022, 09:00:44 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

Yes, you're quite right about that mate! We have only seen the one side of the story and not the full story behind those allegations if it's really true or not, so it is better not to judge or speculate something that isn't appropriate. What we want is that Casimero won't be distracted about his upcoming fight as he is going to represent the Philippines and entertain the people around the world especially for those who supports him.

We cannot make this good discussion like a showbizness, LOL.
Judge Casimero based on how he fights, not on his personal fight as boxers also has their personal life which we should give them that as privacy. Remember that they fight for our country, they make our country popular when they are successful, so it's a win-win if we will only support him.

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March 29, 2022, 01:55:01 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

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March 29, 2022, 02:00:36 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

That would never end if Casimero will mind it. As a boxer, he has to focus only on fighting and winning, let his legal team handle the case because if there's no enough evidence, then there's nothing to be worried about.

I don't know who is behind that, but their timing is really good, good in the sense of destroying the focus of the champ.

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March 29, 2022, 02:05:14 PM
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Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

That would never end if Casimero will mind it. As a boxer, he has to focus only on fighting and winning, let his legal team handle the case because if there's no enough evidence, then there's nothing to be worried about.

I don't know who is behind that, but their timing is really good, good in the sense of destroying the focus of the champ.

By looking at his current physique looks like he really don't bother on that issue maybe he knows that he has a good lawyer on his team. But hopefully he can surpass this challenge and this big issue that occur to him.

But if the case that the court proves that he's guilty then justice for the victim must serve and Casimero should be in jail for his crime.

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March 29, 2022, 08:15:57 PM
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I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.
This will depend on how he takes this, after all being accused of something like that can be unnerving, so if this affects his performance on the ring then this could be the perfect chance for Butler to defeat a Casimero that has his mind elsewhere, however this could also serve as motivation for him, and instead of being depressed he could do his best to try to win this fight and not let something like this to affect him, however we will not know which attitude Casimero has until we see him fighting Butler and observe his performance.
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March 29, 2022, 11:38:11 PM
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Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Guys, if just a few weeks' periods of sleep and we will now witness this fight.
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March 29, 2022, 11:42:11 PM
 #1852

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.
AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

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March 30, 2022, 12:29:13 AM
 #1853

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Correct, promoters are not going to involved themselves here. Maybe just advise Casimero on what to do, but that's it.

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Also thinking the same, maybe it was settled out of court, or the lawyer of Casimero is working on it, so he has nothing to worry about the case. All Casimero will have to do is focus on the fight because it's getting nearer.

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March 30, 2022, 06:33:12 PM
 #1854

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.
AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

Yes, I also don't doubt that Casimero's team have already handled that matter carefully so that it won't distract Casimero anymore on his upcoming fight even if it was just an alleged rape something like that.

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Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.
Can't read any news or updates about the case in the internet if it was dismissed or filed, maybe the team have already settled it silently.

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March 30, 2022, 07:01:19 PM
 #1855

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Guys, if just a few weeks' periods of sleep and we will now witness this fight.

Maybe he is just confuse that he mistakenly include the promoter on Casimero's team or maybe he just don't know that they have separate jobs.

We cannot literally tell if the case was filed and it is just running slowly before a presence in the court is needed, there's no news about it all or updates what have happened in the case.

3 more weeks to go mate, and then we can witness it!

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March 30, 2022, 09:46:39 PM
 #1856

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.
AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.
Surprisingly and this is my first time on hearing it out and did make out some research and found this.
https://sports.inquirer.net/452177/john-riel-casimero-faces-abuse-acts-of-lasciviousness-complaints
John Riel Casimero faces abuse, acts of lasciviousness complaints


Its true that these issues wont really be that enough for his fight to be dismissed again.We dont even
know if this one had already been resolved.

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March 30, 2022, 10:04:06 PM
 #1857

Surprisingly and this is my first time on hearing it out and did make out some research and found this.
https://sports.inquirer.net/452177/john-riel-casimero-faces-abuse-acts-of-lasciviousness-complaints
John Riel Casimero faces abuse, acts of lasciviousness complaints


Its true that these issues wont really be that enough for his fight to be dismissed again.We dont even
know if this one had already been resolved.
It's more than a month and we don't know if it's already resolved. He might just need to appear in the court if there's a subpoena but knowing that his match is near, there are some rescheduling that might happen.

Yes, I also don't doubt that Casimero's team have already handled that matter carefully so that it won't distract Casimero anymore on his upcoming fight even if it was just an alleged rape something like that.

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Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.
Can't read any news or updates about the case in the internet if it was dismissed or filed, maybe the team have already settled it silently.
Focus is needed on this match since we don't know what will be the outcome of it. Well, I guess they're just ignoring it at this moment and assigned some from their team or a personal lawyer to handle the case so that Casimero can focus and do not have to think of it as it will really impact as a distraction for his upcoming match.

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Last edit: March 31, 2022, 12:34:13 AM by chaser15
 #1858

Surprisingly and this is my first time on hearing it out and did make out some research and found this.
https://sports.inquirer.net/452177/john-riel-casimero-faces-abuse-acts-of-lasciviousness-complaints
John Riel Casimero faces abuse, acts of lasciviousness complaints


Its true that these issues wont really be that enough for his fight to be dismissed again.We dont even
know if this one had already been resolved.

That was an old article already, ok not that old but over a month. There's no other news after that. Seems the case was not progressing until the end of Casimero's fight. There's a hearing on that and the attorney's presence is not enough as Casimero needs to attend it.

Maybe they are just waiting for Casimero's return here in the Philippines before proceeding with the case.

Casimero has its legal team for sure and they are working on that case. They won't allow distraction for Casimero now that his fight is nearing.

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March 31, 2022, 03:20:27 AM
 #1859

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I agree, the incident was just a coincidence and it has nothing to do with his upcoming fight or his previous promoter. Also, Casimero shouldn't worry about that for now nor let that issue distract him in his preparation against Paul Butler. Anyways, if he is really innocent then there's nothing to worry about.

I have not read an update about that lawsuit on Casimero but I think that is taken care of because they have not spoken a word about that case on their vlogs.

But I have also seen a youtube video of a content creator where he said that there is a tweet by Team Butler on March 5 asking MP promotions on who really is their opponent. This might have something to do with the case of Casimero and they don't want to prepare for a fight with Casimero in mind but in the end, fighting a different opponent would be disastrous for their preparation.
Well this is worrying, maybe things were fixed and they don't want to give statements until the official verdict is obtained and they make it public, unless Butler already handles the information and it's something bad and this meeting can't take place, I think In that scenario things would be bad, I don't think Casimero would blame him, it would be something infamous and they would practically be ending the boxer's entire career, if this is the case then Butler would be looking for new matches, but it would be something bad for him. Well, he already has a previous preparation and this would only cause inconvenience for many, especially for bettors.

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March 31, 2022, 04:06:13 AM
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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I agree, the incident was just a coincidence and it has nothing to do with his upcoming fight or his previous promoter. Also, Casimero shouldn't worry about that for now nor let that issue distract him in his preparation against Paul Butler. Anyways, if he is really innocent then there's nothing to worry about.

I have not read an update about that lawsuit on Casimero but I think that is taken care of because they have not spoken a word about that case on their vlogs.

But I have also seen a youtube video of a content creator where he said that there is a tweet by Team Butler on March 5 asking MP promotions on who really is their opponent. This might have something to do with the case of Casimero and they don't want to prepare for a fight with Casimero in mind but in the end, fighting a different opponent would be disastrous for their preparation.
Well this is worrying, maybe things were fixed and they don't want to give statements until the official verdict is obtained and they make it public, unless Butler already handles the information and it's something bad and this meeting can't take place, I think In that scenario things would be bad, I don't think Casimero would blame him, it would be something infamous and they would practically be ending the boxer's entire career, if this is the case then Butler would be looking for new matches, but it would be something bad for him. Well, he already has a previous preparation and this would only cause inconvenience for many, especially for bettors.


I thought the schedule is already fixed.

Why would Butler tweet like that? Isn't he the mandatory opponent of Casimero? I hope that tweet has no real substance because not seeing Casimero fight this year would cast doubt on his future in boxing. I mean, he is still a champion, he deserved to fight the best and get more fights.

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