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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.  (Read 9081 times)
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April 06, 2022, 10:23:54 PM
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We cannot either confirm what's the status of that said lawsuit because there's no information that can be found on the internet as well, but speaking of being optimistic, I hope that they have solved it even before the lawsuit goes to the court. I'm starting to think that way because there's really no signs that Casimero is affected nor worried about that lawsuit that was filed by the alleged victim.

Paul Butler is the who should have worry because the date is near for him to be defeated, his only hopes in winning is getting a sub for Casimero but that won't happen this time.
We will not know what happened with that case until more information comes forward, we must remember that even if now information moves at an incredible speed this is not the same for the law, when it comes to the law months or even years can pass before a case moves forward, so maybe there is an investigation ongoing, negotiations to resolve the case off the court could be taking place, or the case is on hold until the lawyers of the alleged victim make a move.
Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
We do have our own personal lives in the past and as a popular boxer or athlete then we dont really know on what are their past experience or histories in regarding with some situations which do really

causes for them to have some pending case file or something but basing on what i had noticed and observed that fights wont really be that be postponed despite on having a pending case or something
like that which is unlikely for this upcoming fight to be postponed ones again unless if there would be some sort of health issues once again.
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April 06, 2022, 10:39:18 PM
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We cannot either confirm what's the status of that said lawsuit because there's no information that can be found on the internet as well, but speaking of being optimistic, I hope that they have solved it even before the lawsuit goes to the court. I'm starting to think that way because there's really no signs that Casimero is affected nor worried about that lawsuit that was filed by the alleged victim.

Paul Butler is the who should have worry because the date is near for him to be defeated, his only hopes in winning is getting a sub for Casimero but that won't happen this time.
We will not know what happened with that case until more information comes forward, we must remember that even if now information moves at an incredible speed this is not the same for the law, when it comes to the law months or even years can pass before a case moves forward, so maybe there is an investigation ongoing, negotiations to resolve the case off the court could be taking place, or the case is on hold until the lawyers of the alleged victim make a move.
Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
We do have our own personal lives in the past and as a popular boxer or athlete then we dont really know on what are their past experience or histories in regarding with some situations which do really

causes for them to have some pending case file or something but basing on what i had noticed and observed that fights wont really be that be postponed despite on having a pending case or something
like that which is unlikely for this upcoming fight to be postponed ones again unless if there would be some sort of health issues once again.

Casimero need to continue the fight whatever disturbance exist, if we look at the news seems the issue is not taking much airtime to the mainstream and I guess this will not be the cause of another delay or the reason for the fight to be postponed so there's no point for thinking that their fight between Butler will not happen. I think Casimero is already preparing for that fight and for sure we can see him in great shape again.

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April 06, 2022, 11:24:35 PM
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Casimero need to continue the fight whatever disturbance exist, if we look at the news seems the issue is not taking much airtime to the mainstream and I guess this will not be the cause of another delay or the reason for the fight to be postponed so there's no point for thinking that their fight between Butler will not happen. I think Casimero is already preparing for that fight and for sure we can see him in great shape again.

Casimero can't just continue if it's not allowed to do so. But as you have said, the issue is silent and the mainstream media doesn't have any report about it. We can now conclude that the lawsuit filed against Casimero is nothing and the fight with Paul Butler will continue.

I'm not really worried about the lawsuit but about Casimero's health side. That's the most important thing that they need to address since failure for another weigh-in will result in Casimero's title being stripped automatically.

That's not what we wanted to see as we are sick of too many delays and postponements since the pandemic.
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April 06, 2022, 11:38:37 PM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.

There's no such reason as that case is intended to distract Casimero. It's a valid and legit lawsuit.

The case was filed by a Government agency therefore they sees solid evidence and proofs provided by the complainants. They won't waste their time filing that case just for the purpose of distracting Casimero from his upcoming fight since complainants won't be benefited from it.

As long as Casimero's legal team are sure that this lawsuit is just trash, no need for Casimero to worry if his conscience is really clean.
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April 07, 2022, 01:24:15 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.

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April 07, 2022, 08:58:28 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.
We will see how Casimero will be affected, I mean he jump ship from MP Probellum and then there are some chances in his corner if I'm not mistaken and then the legal battle he has in the Philippines. True, he is battle tested, but this seems to be another battle, it's a psyche and mental. And we don't know how prepared he is. And the we will see if in the actual fight, if Casimero beats Butler convincingly and with another knock out, then obviously is has no effect on him.

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April 07, 2022, 09:05:36 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.

His case is already moving in the court. He has a lot of record for having a too cocky attitude and even I as a Filipino don’t like him as a boxer. He is good as an athlete but he always display an attitude like he owns the world in all his interview and vlogs. I lose all my admiration to him after the news abput his case because he has the capacity to really do it based on his previous action. I believe he can still focus in the fight because he was always involved in different controversy in the past yet he can still perform well inside the ring.

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April 07, 2022, 09:51:22 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.

His case is already moving in the court. He has a lot of record for having a too cocky attitude and even I as a Filipino don’t like him as a boxer. He is good as an athlete but he always display an attitude like he owns the world in all his interview and vlogs. I lose all my admiration to him after the news abput his case because he has the capacity to really do it based on his previous action. I believe he can still focus in the fight because he was always involved in different controversy in the past yet he can still perform well inside the ring.

I guess that's what he is trying to portray, his attitude, the aura of invincibility that's why he is so cocky, trash talking which is not typical for a Filipino fighter because they are all humble.

But if he can focus on this fight despite all the allegations against him then his case is very different as he is still on the roll and could be the next big fighter coming out of the Philippines, despite his cockiness, it's either you embrace him or not.
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April 07, 2022, 11:26:59 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.
Yes.

We can account him for what he is right now and he can really endure those issues that are thrown to him. His goal is to defeat Butler and he shouldn't let any distraction to allow and change his behavior and way of preparation for this match.

That's it and he knows how to handle it and even it's just thrown to him for a few months, we have never heard him talk about it while he's on training.

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April 07, 2022, 11:54:46 AM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.

There's no such reason as that case is intended to distract Casimero. It's a valid and legit lawsuit.

The case was filed by a Government agency therefore they sees solid evidence and proofs provided by the complainants. They won't waste their time filing that case just for the purpose of distracting Casimero from his upcoming fight since complainants won't be benefited from it.

As long as Casimero's legal team are sure that this lawsuit is just trash, no need for Casimero to worry if his conscience is really clean.

At that point, it's hard to tell who between the two parties is telling the truth, let this case be judged in court. Casimero is still a champion now no matter what, but with him losing his focus, I think that would end his career, so yes, I believe that he will remain focused and will be successful in defending his belt.

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April 07, 2022, 12:25:02 PM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.

There's no such reason as that case is intended to distract Casimero. It's a valid and legit lawsuit.

The case was filed by a Government agency therefore they sees solid evidence and proofs provided by the complainants. They won't waste their time filing that case just for the purpose of distracting Casimero from his upcoming fight since complainants won't be benefited from it.

As long as Casimero's legal team are sure that this lawsuit is just trash, no need for Casimero to worry if his conscience is really clean.

At that point, it's hard to tell who between the two parties is telling the truth, let this case be judged in court. Casimero is still a champion now no matter what, but with him losing his focus, I think that would end his career, so yes, I believe that he will remain focused and will be successful in defending his belt.

Exactly, let's just trust the court to make their decision, while we fans should be busy discussing the coming fight. More than two weeks and we will finally see the fight as this is still happening on April 22, 2022, with no postponement whatsoever despite the rumors about team Butler asking who his opponent is.


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April 07, 2022, 12:40:03 PM
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At that point, it's hard to tell who between the two parties is telling the truth, let this case be judged in court. Casimero is still a champion now no matter what, but with him losing his focus, I think that would end his career, so yes, I believe that he will remain focused and will be successful in defending his belt.

Well, in that case if Casimero's scheduled fight will not be affected by his pending case in Philippines then this will not be a problem but as a person he should face it and if theres a charges that need to be settled he should comply to it depend on what the law and the court are requiring for him to comply. So far, I just do hope that this might not going to affect on his upcoming fight because as a boxing fan and bettors this fight has been delayed for a quite long now.

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April 07, 2022, 01:01:20 PM
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At that point, it's hard to tell who between the two parties is telling the truth, let this case be judged in court. Casimero is still a champion now no matter what, but with him losing his focus, I think that would end his career, so yes, I believe that he will remain focused and will be successful in defending his belt.

Well, in that case if Casimero's scheduled fight will not be affected by his pending case in Philippines then this will not be a problem but as a person he should face it and if theres a charges that need to be settled he should comply to it depend on what the law and the court are requiring for him to comply. So far, I just do hope that this might not going to affect on his upcoming fight because as a boxing fan and bettors this fight has been delayed for a quite long now.



That will not be affected as he can always not show up and the hearing will be canceled. Remember that he is presenting the Philippines in this fight, at least the court will give him that consideration and for sure he will not leave and escape this problem.

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April 07, 2022, 04:22:06 PM
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That will not be affected as he can always not show up and the hearing will be canceled. Remember that he is presenting the Philippines in this fight, at least the court will give him that consideration and for sure he will not leave and escape this problem.

He got his lawyers and they are the one who will take care of any legal concern for Casimero,

It should not affect his fighting capabilities, and I'm sure by now the legal team is already working on it looking for
best solution to remove this issue from Casimero.

Something these fighters have in common here in PH, they mostly have this same kind of cases, maybe for complainant
not saying all, but the possibilities are for sure, easy money making once the accused settled behind the table..
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April 07, 2022, 04:40:21 PM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.

There's no such reason as that case is intended to distract Casimero. It's a valid and legit lawsuit.

The case was filed by a Government agency therefore they sees solid evidence and proofs provided by the complainants. They won't waste their time filing that case just for the purpose of distracting Casimero from his upcoming fight since complainants won't be benefited from it.

As long as Casimero's legal team are sure that this lawsuit is just trash, no need for Casimero to worry if his conscience is really clean.

At that point, it's hard to tell who between the two parties is telling the truth, let this case be judged in court. Casimero is still a champion now no matter what, but with him losing his focus, I think that would end his career, so yes, I believe that he will remain focused and will be successful in defending his belt.

Indeed, Casimero still holding the belt and still the champion here, Butler, needs to win in order to strip it from him.

the fight will proceed unless Casimero failed to get the right weight before the fight takes place. It is another good chance for Casimero

to showcase his talent and skills. Winning will continue to put a god hype on his boxing career, giving him privileges to engage with

more money fight.

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April 07, 2022, 04:52:25 PM
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Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
It's more a distraction just like what everyone is saying. Couldn't be from the side of Butler but from other people that just want him to bring down.

But just as the others have been saying by being neutral, it could be true as well. As for his side, he wants to get his whole focus to the match and eventually when it's done and he has won, he'll start to fix and manage this issue and hopefully he can speak for himself about it.

For now, let's say, we give Casimero the benefit of the doubt. There are entities that will try to distract any boxers, it's called psyche war, not just in boxing but in all other sports. Sort of mind games you played with your opponent, if he cracks then you win.

However, Casimero is battle tested already, and he shouldn't be bother by all the noises around him and should just focus on the fight itself.
We will see how Casimero will be affected, I mean he jump ship from MP Probellum and then there are some chances in his corner if I'm not mistaken and then the legal battle he has in the Philippines. True, he is battle tested, but this seems to be another battle, it's a psyche and mental. And we don't know how prepared he is. And the we will see if in the actual fight, if Casimero beats Butler convincingly and with another knock out, then obviously is has no effect on him.
You mean from MP Promotions to Probellum? Well, I hope that Probellum has nothing to do with the rumors that have been spreading now because from what I read in the past article, Probellum's main cashcow is Paul Butler even before Casimero decided to sign with the same promotions with Butler.

If we're talking about psyche war then that battle is not new to Casimero anymore because he's also used to do that but the only difference is that he ain't spreading rumor just like what Butler's team did. But I don't have any worries at all that he is distracted by those rumors nor the lawsuit that was filed against him and the fact that we aren't hearing about it anymore means that they've already settled it behind the curtains.

We will just see it for ourselves if indeed he's affected or not, but the chances is that he really ain't affected about it at all.

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April 07, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
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We cannot either confirm what's the status of that said lawsuit because there's no information that can be found on the internet as well, but speaking of being optimistic, I hope that they have solved it even before the lawsuit goes to the court. I'm starting to think that way because there's really no signs that Casimero is affected nor worried about that lawsuit that was filed by the alleged victim.

Paul Butler is the who should have worry because the date is near for him to be defeated, his only hopes in winning is getting a sub for Casimero but that won't happen this time.
We will not know what happened with that case until more information comes forward, we must remember that even if now information moves at an incredible speed this is not the same for the law, when it comes to the law months or even years can pass before a case moves forward, so maybe there is an investigation ongoing, negotiations to resolve the case off the court could be taking place, or the case is on hold until the lawyers of the alleged victim make a move.
Let's hope that it's really what is happening, or best if that case is just a rumor to distract Casimero. There are things really that we don't know happening to their personal life, we know Casimero being a trash talking but we didn't know he has a history of sexually harassing women.
We do have our own personal lives in the past and as a popular boxer or athlete then we dont really know on what are their past experience or histories in regarding with some situations which do really

causes for them to have some pending case file or something but basing on what i had noticed and observed that fights wont really be that be postponed despite on having a pending case or something
like that which is unlikely for this upcoming fight to be postponed ones again unless if there would be some sort of health issues once again.

Casimero need to continue the fight whatever disturbance exist, if we look at the news seems the issue is not taking much airtime to the mainstream and I guess this will not be the cause of another delay or the reason for the fight to be postponed so there's no point for thinking that their fight between Butler will not happen. I think Casimero is already preparing for that fight and for sure we can see him in great shape again.
It would really able to continue if it would really be permitted or these issues wont really be making out some or would lead into decisions on stopping it and even Casimero does really like to fight then

there's nothing he could do if ever things becomes more worst or severe but just like you do  said on which these kind of circumstances doesnt really generate that much of an issue which
might really be affecting upcoming boxer fights but lets see on how they would able to handle out these situations.
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April 07, 2022, 10:55:52 PM
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I guess that was just a misinformation or rumor meant to scare the fans of Casimero that he is in a dangerous spot who's going to be stripped in his belt because of that lawsuit that we have no information about as we cannot literally see anything about that on the internet nor anything that Butler tweeted in the same context. Guys, let's be optimistic because the fight is still going to happen.

I'm one on those many people that hoping that this fight will push through as I'm a fan of Quadro Alas but this controversy that he is in right now is not a joke and coupled with the weight issue, this is really a challenging times for Casimero but i know that he could overcome these issues and come out victorious once he steps on that ring.

Why is it that the opponent's team seems to be not so sure that Casimero will fight, and his camp is looking for a replacement? There's no news about this and his camp is silent. The match is fast approaching. If Casimero will not fight because of the lawsuit, then, his boxing career is now in question.

So far what you see are pure rumours, I don't know if his case has already been resolved? or they have more to see and be able to give a verdict that at least we fans can see, I think that they should not take so many turns and allow this fight, it is something that boxing very much needs, on the other hand it should be noted that in This type of event moves a lot of money, but you just have to realize that the fight with Ruso Bivol will take place, so here it is very difficult for things to move in another way, I think that boxing fans deserve to be give this fight.

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April 07, 2022, 11:36:23 PM
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We will see how Casimero will be affected, I mean he jump ship from MP Probellum and then there are some chances in his corner if I'm not mistaken and then the legal battle he has in the Philippines.

Promoters have nothing to do with the case. It's out of their business. Any law-related activities are handled by Casimero's legal team and they will just give an update to the organization body.

The boxing organization body is the one that has the power to cancel, delay, or postponed the fight, not everyone else. In this case, the WBO.

Since there's no announcement from the WBA til now and the fight is just around the corner to happen, the fight will surely continue.
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but you just have to realize that the fight with Ruso Bivol will take place, so here it is very difficult for things to move in another way, I think that boxing fans deserve to be give this fight.

The Alvarez-Bivol has a different case since that fight will continue despite the ongoing conflict although there's a possible sanction that will be made turning the fight from a title match to a non-title match. Even if there's pressure on Russian athletes, no delay or cancellation of the fight will be done.

Here in Casimero's case, once the lawsuit against him is strong, he might not be allowed by WBA to fight although small chance for that to happen. April 22 is the date. There should be any notifications for any changes about the fight but none up to now like others are saying here.

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