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September 29, 2021, 04:18:48 PM
Last edit: September 29, 2021, 04:41:06 PM by BIN-BIN
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Crypto regulations and the ban have taken over the news headline recently following china’s reinstatement of their earlier stance on cryptocurrency within the region.

On the 27th of September 2021, the Chinese government places a total ban on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency in the country, a move I view as a political tool to pave way for their digital Yuan.
Considering this development, a whale in the crypto industry, ELON MUSK, has ditch out his advice to the United States,
Do nothing to cryptocurrency, either in form of regulation or ban, his judgment is base on the fact that the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency makes it impossible to be regulated.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-is-impossible-to-destroy-says-tesla-ceo-elon-musk
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September 29, 2021, 05:37:45 PM
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US is completely different from china I doubt the US government would take the measures that china has taken, in the US there is democracy and the laws work (there are cases where justice fails for some citizens) but overall the US is completely different from the dictatorship chinese

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September 29, 2021, 06:20:16 PM
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Crypto regulations and the ban have taken over the news headline recently following china’s reinstatement of their earlier stance on cryptocurrency within the region.

On the 27th of September 2021, the Chinese government places a total ban on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency in the country, a move I view as a political tool to pave way for their digital Yuan.
Considering this development, a whale in the crypto industry, ELON MUSK, has ditch out his advice to the United States,
Do nothing to cryptocurrency, either in form of regulation or ban, his judgment is base on the fact that the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency makes it impossible to be regulated.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-is-impossible-to-destroy-says-tesla-ceo-elon-musk
Us government is basically a free market based on capitalism which is completely different to china, and that is why i think that the use of bitcoin and crypto is easier to control or rather monitor since they have ways to keeps an eye on people's income and transactions even if they are using bitcoin, so they are able to ban and they are able to somewhat prevent people from using it, but why not profit from them and make them pay taxes since it is a profitable market that has billions of dollars of income.
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September 29, 2021, 06:22:58 PM
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I am more certain that the US will become a competitor to China in this case. The US should make this moment to immediately adopt cryptocurrency or, most importantly, Bitcoin on a large scale. Because if the US actually follows what China is doing, it is clear that they have lost and are labeled as a country that only follows suit. Only one way to prove that the US is the most contributing country in growing the global economy is to decide to go against China in terms of the crypto industry.

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September 30, 2021, 04:11:25 AM
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I am more certain that the US will become a competitor to China in this case. The US should take this moment to immediately adopt cryptocurrency or, most importantly, Bitcoin on a large scale. Because if the US follows what China is doing, it is clear that they have lost and are labeled as a country that only follows suit. Only one way to prove that the US is the most contributing country in growing the global economy is to decide to go against China in terms of the crypto industry.
I believe so too, the U.S. government will not trade that path China took and that single act is going to place the US on the top list of crypto-friendly countries in the future. The US may go in another direction by not having strong regulations but a flexible one that will allow an easy cryptocurrency adoption process and usage within its region.
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September 30, 2021, 04:17:18 AM
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https://sg.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-urges-government-nothing-203008587.html

Aaaay! I actually agree with Elon Musk's opinion concerning Bitcoin for once. This is wishful thinking though, unfortunately. What are the chances that the government would just leave alone the asset class that's detrimental to their existence?

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September 30, 2021, 04:32:15 AM
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Us government is basically a free market based on capitalism which is completely different to china,

Don't think they are so different, since Den Xiaoping opened the economy to capitalism and today it is relatively liberalized. Nor can we speak of a strict free market in the USA with the amount of regulations there are. But I still prefer the US economic system to the Chinese one, that's for sure.

Considering this development, a whale in the crypto industry, ELON MUSK, has ditch out his advice to the United States,
Do nothing to cryptocurrency, either in form of regulation or ban, his judgment is base on the fact that the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency makes it impossible to be regulated.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-is-impossible-to-destroy-says-tesla-ceo-elon-musk

The last thing he says is false. Nature is decentralized but of course it can be regulated and it has been done in most countries in the world. I think you are confusing regulating with controlling. Governments cannot control Bitcoin in the same way they can control a company that is based in their country, but regulate legislatively of course.

The US government is not going to pay any attention to Musk, they will continue to put regulations. I wish they would leave Bitcoin unregulated and let the actions of interacting individuals self-regulate the system, but no, in fact, the latest regulatory proposal seems like a bad joke.

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September 30, 2021, 05:26:47 AM
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And that is exactly what China did, they did nothing to cryptocurrency but Ban.  Cheesy Do you think this is what Elon wants to say?

It's too late to say, no regulations now because the senate had spent countless hours already to come up with something so they could control the growth. I think the regulation is good, the regulatory board however has to be educated that they can understand where they can only regulate the transactions. 


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September 30, 2021, 06:19:42 AM
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Bitcoin/crypto is regulated in the US.Does the US government want to impose even more regulations over the cryptocurrency industry?
Why Elon Musk suddenly started to care about the crypto industry?He dumped Bitcoin a few months ago,the Bitcoin community hates him.I think that nobody in the US government cares about Elon Musk's opinions.
The is article seems like hidden FUD,because it suggests that there's a possibility for the US authorities to ban Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general.Such possibility exists,but the chances are way lower,compared to the China crypto ban. 

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September 30, 2021, 06:32:39 AM
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US is completely different from china I doubt the US government would take the measures that china has taken, in the US there is democracy and the laws work (there are cases where justice fails for some citizens) but overall the US is completely different from the dictatorship chinese
They won't do it in the open like China but trust me, whatever China does, US does it covertly. Remember the NSA leak by Edward Snowden where he confirmed that NSA was spying on it's own people? Democracy is just a word and the US government only uses it when it's convenient.
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September 30, 2021, 09:17:28 AM
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Maybe we will see a war between China and the US government related to crypto. If we can not use that moment for our benefit, we will not be able to profit or will not have a chance to buy at a low price. China will try to push the crypto market down for more as that will be their chance to add more bitcoin in their reserves and that can be their way to introduce their digital Yuan.

But the United States can react to that but let see what will happen. Hopefully, that will not have a big impact on the market but it will open the doors to accept many people who will use crypto.

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September 30, 2021, 09:40:19 AM
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On the 27th of September 2021, the Chinese government places a total ban on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency in the country, a move I view as a political tool to pave way for their digital Yuan.

It's hard for me to look and read hundreds of posts claiming that China made a total ban on cryptocurrencies yesterday or two weeks ago - and the bans began in 2013 when 90% of members of this forum who are active today did not even know what Bitcoin was. Even then, it was clear what their attitude was towards cryptocurrencies and how it would end up - in a country that also censored the Internet and where human rights do not exist.

It's even crazier that someone is now seeking advice from EM, as if he's someone important who can influence the US government to do something one way or another. They protect their currency and under the pretext of national security can ban anything at any time.



What are the chances that the government would just leave alone the asset class that's detrimental to their existence?

When it comes to the US and most of its vassals (EU, Japan, India, Israel, UK ...), the chances are zero. Either they will be able to impose full control, or they will start adopting the same measures as China - with the difference that they will not say "we are introducing a complete ban on cryptocurrencies", but the regulatory framework will be so strict that it will demotivate the majority to use them.

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September 30, 2021, 09:47:51 AM
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And it's rather obvious really. You'd reckon with 10 years of release and development and stuff like that, those with enough information would have actually realized that what Elon is right. Sadly, even if they do realize that it's true, they'd still somehow push it on, hoping that people are idiots and they'd stop using crypto if they actually impose regulations like that. It's just how centralized stuff works really, they'd really kill off any opposition that's pretty much against their centralized mindsets.

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September 30, 2021, 10:30:40 AM
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Its good to see that Elon is supporting the crypto at right time. I am sure this news will also get the attention of various politicians who has great connections with Elon for funding purpose. I mean his a billionaire and these are very common things with the rich peeps to have such relations.

Now, connect this with the Elon's investment in bitcoin and doge(?), which gives the ample clue that he is protecting his own assets. If this is the case then slowly the political pressure will build in this case scenario. Since its Elon's money and ultimately it's their money too!  Tongue

Also, I would like to think that there is no relation between China's ban and USA regulating the crypto. Not even close I guess.
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September 30, 2021, 11:11:26 AM
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Crypto regulations and the ban have taken over the news headline recently following china’s reinstatement of their earlier stance on cryptocurrency within the region.

On the 27th of September 2021, the Chinese government places a total ban on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency in the country, a move I view as a political tool to pave way for their digital Yuan.
Considering this development, a whale in the crypto industry, ELON MUSK, has ditch out his advice to the United States,
Do nothing to cryptocurrency, either in form of regulation or ban, his judgment is base on the fact that the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency makes it impossible to be regulated.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-is-impossible-to-destroy-says-tesla-ceo-elon-musk
You should change the title to "ELON MUSK BS Advice" because this is not about Him telling US an advice instead this is Him trolling again and making sounds as there are another action he'll be made sooner .
sure there are another plans of pumping His interest to crypto market as he stays silent for long time and now here again making news.

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September 30, 2021, 12:15:45 PM
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The government has difficulty controlling bitcoin because if they can't control it. This will make it difficult for political movements in finance. Because they can't rule like fiat today.

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September 30, 2021, 12:28:02 PM
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They’re scared, very scared. Bitcoin can’t be banned, as Elon Musk said the other day, all governments can do is slow or suppress the growth of bitcoin. They can’t ban it, they can only slow it down.

I wouldn’t worry too much about regulation. If you’re a long term investor it is all just noise. At some stage they are all going to have to bend the knee to the king bitcoin.

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October 01, 2021, 10:42:53 AM
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They’re scared, very scared. Bitcoin can’t be banned, as Elon Musk said the other day, all governments can do is slow or suppress the growth of bitcoin. They can’t ban it, they can only slow it down.

I wouldn’t worry too much about regulation. If you’re a long term investor it is all just noise. At some stage they are all going to have to bend the knee to the king bitcoin.
We don't need to listen to opinion of Elon Musk to know that governments can not ban Bitcoin. Give me the Internet and Bitcoin is unbannable.

Governments can not say ASICs are equipments for criminals, can they? I believe it is unrealistic thing they can do.

Take this news Billion dollar Bitcoin mining industry resumes in Iran after three-month ban. Do you think that all bans will be canceled some days, in China or any nation?

China currently has a fuel crisis but when the crisis is over, Bitcoin mining in China will be allowed again.

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October 01, 2021, 10:52:00 AM
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They’re scared, very scared. Bitcoin can’t be banned, as Elon Musk said the other day, all governments can do is slow or suppress the growth of bitcoin. They can’t ban it, they can only slow it down.

I wouldn’t worry too much about regulation. If you’re a long term investor it is all just noise. At some stage they are all going to have to bend the knee to the king bitcoin.
We need to still worry about this regulations and bans though, you should prioritize yourself first before anything else, what's the use of bitcoin if you're in jail because you've committed something that directly opposed the ban or the regulation, yes it's not going to be a problem for bitcoin but if your country bans and regulates, you still have to worry because you're still under their domain and they're the authority.

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October 01, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
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I doubt that the US government will thread the same path as China. US government might seek to fill the void China is creating with their ban and in that way have an advantage over China. US might be listed as Cryptocurrency-friendly country soon. 
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