It is impossible to have a fact driven discussion regarding, for example, the best way of easing lockdown restrictions, without being flooded with nonsense about how COVID isn't real but it also is real but it's just a flu but actually it's all a psy-op and the vaccine doesn't work but also it's a nanochip but also it's gene therapy but also it's a lethal injection but also it's mind control etc. etc.
If we could get the extreme P&S opinions to be that covid isn't real, that would be a huge step in the right direction compared to what is said in P&S today. At least with the claim that covid isn't real, normal people can talk about their own experiences, and refute this argument.
This is compared to the
suggestion that Mike Pompeo's children should be murdered, and force-fed to Pompeo. No sane person thinks that is a good idea, regardless of his alleged crimes. I also don't think that many sane people would be interested in even discussing such an idea. I might compare someone making this suggestion to someone with a mental illness screaming on the streets of San Francisco. People not only don't want to engage with him, but also don't want to be in that same area.
I still don't think we should delete those insane opinions, but I would be all for moving them all to Off Topic or something similar. Or I guess we just treat P&S as Off Topic 2 and any reasonable discussion move to Serious Discussion.
I think a lot of the extreme threads in P&S are not related to "Politics" or a "recent event in society" even if they mention a political figure.
I don't think these threads should be moved to Off Topic, as this sub is reserved for "other threads that might be of interest to bitcoiners" and the response some of these threads are getting (or more specifically, the lack thereof), shows that many of these threads are
not of interest to bitcoiners.
The problem I have with
BADecker's post is the lack of proper references. If you claim the Supreme Court ruled something, at least add a link to the official ruling.
If you watched the video, you would see the video did
reference a specific ruling, although I don't think any reasonable person would make the same conclusion that the person in the video made.
I don't have a problem with people posting what I believe to be "false information", as it is entirely possible what they write may turn out to be true, or if not, as you mentioned, people can post rebuttals to said false information. I am more concerned about people posting extremists views. It is not only that the views are extreme, it is that a lot of threads are suggesting things that are near-universally seen as unacceptable by society, such as harming people known to be innocent. As I have mentioned previously, another issue is that some people are posting things that are simply not interesting to ~all other forum members based on the number of responses they are getting, however, these people are creating many threads and these threads are often clogging up the first page of P&S.
If you do not see that creating an obvious falsehood the allows for the murder of 3 billion people as a threat to public safety as the same as falsely shouting fire in a crowded movie theater it is sad.
I think you're making an enormous mountain out of a molehill. I looked through that thread and nowhere does BADecker call for the killing of anyone. What is this murder of 3 billion people you're talking about?
I think his argument is that BADecker is making the argument against taking the covid vaccine and that fewer vaccinations will result in more covid deaths.
I think people should be able to make the choice as to if they want to take the vaccine or not. As is said in the OP, the thread in question is clearly false, and I seriously doubt that anyone is going to have their mind changed on the vaccine based on that thread. Further, the best way to fight "bad" speech is with more speech.
