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October 13, 2021, 02:15:56 AM
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Because we all favour Davis here, he has the tools and has slowly gaining experience. As compare to Romero who hasn't touch any fighter in the level of Davis.

I like Davis chances on this fight, but a boxer with the power to knock out can pull out an upset, I'm looking at Barrios performance against Davis, Barrios has the power the skills but cannot find a good opening to land his big punches and when he initiates he always get caught by Davis counterpunch, and Romero keeps calling Davis little man, now this is a bad strategy, he is undermining Davis power if he takes that mindset against him, he will be in big trouble.  

And Davis was the one going up in weight, and many question if he can bring that power to super lightweight. But all questions have been answered when he knocks out Barrios, a natural lightweight. And now Romero calling him little man? LOL, that's any invitation for a knock out. This Romero hasn't proved anything yet and belittling the champion, that's the worst strategy in the books. I wouldn't be surprised is Davis won by a big knockout again.

Things have really changed now, before it's the champion who is talking trash to the challenger, now it's different, it's the challenger that is no anymore humble and underestimates the champion. Maybe it's just a marketing strategy but if it will affect the boxer's emotion, it might fuel him to work harder and go for a KO, which as a fan we like as we benefit from it.

Yes, probably he wanted to get the attention and wanted to fight Davis and he is confident that he can defeat this version of Davis, which we boxing fans doubt.

Romero trash talking Davis and like what Plant did to Canelo, I think we will see champions shutting the mouth of thei opponents.

Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

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October 13, 2021, 03:33:35 AM
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The next opponent for Tank Davis has been chosen and it is undefeated prospect Rolando Romero. Romero is the typical Davis opponent, someone with an aggressive style who does not have much defense. Unlike Gamboa, Santa Cruz, and Barrios, he does not have much experience. I expect Davis to be a massive favorite and the odds will be lopsided.
Romero is inexperienced and doesn't have much skills. He does not belong in this kind of fight. It is a shame we can't see the best fighters in a stacked lightweight division fight each other due to politics and we get these kinds of mismatches instead.
Like always it is the promoters the ones that delay the fights we all want to see that by the point we see them many times the boxers are not on their prime anymore and the fight is nowhere near as good as it could be.

This is what happened with the Mayweather vs Pacquiao, they could have easily created a trilogy of fights but instead we only got one and it was extremely boring to the point no one was interested in watching another one, yes they earned more money in that fight than in any other in the past but they let a lot of money over the table as they only got one fight instead of three.
For a fight that is boring, there's no need to create a trilogy.

It was called the fight of the century and both made a big amount of money in that fight, however, they failed our expectation as Mayweather was able to impose his will and that is by just running and scoring which makes him the boring fighter of all time.

The bad thing about this fight was that both fighters agreed that they would never have a rematch, of course Myweather was the one who proposed that to Pacquiao, and Pacquiao because they never have any problem, if they do not want to fight with him for whatever reason he is not going to say that do it if they already worked on it, although to tell the truth, looking at it from a more man-to-man point of view, is that Myweather did not want to fight with him anymore for fear that Pacquiao would beat him, and that boxer places a lot of importance on his reputation, it seems to me that a huge show was killed there.

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October 13, 2021, 03:37:17 AM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.
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October 13, 2021, 04:17:49 AM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.

Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

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October 13, 2021, 05:42:33 AM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.

Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

If that is true then this would be a nice fight as we will surely a real fight where fighters would give their very best to prove they are the best. It looks like Romero has no respect on the champion, he doesn't respect the KO power of Tank Davis, but let's see if he can handle that in the actual fight.
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October 13, 2021, 12:24:30 PM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.

Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

It was not in the street though, do some research and this is what I found out:

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“When they were at the [Errol]Spence-[Danny]Garcia fight last year in Texas, me and Floyd had to pull them apart. They were ready to bump right there. We thought they were gonna bump. Hell, if we didn’t pull them apart it would have been a better fight than Spence-Garcia turned out to be.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-ceo-on-davis-romero-better-let-them-fight-ring-street--161163

So why not a better way to finished the animosity between the two but inside the ring. And the good thing is that both fighters are promoted by Floyd himself. So no problem to set up the fight and that what we are getting in December. But I think Romero is still raw talent and he might swallow more than he can chew against a prime Davis.
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October 14, 2021, 05:15:18 AM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.

Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

It was not in the street though, do some research and this is what I found out:

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“When they were at the [Errol]Spence-[Danny]Garcia fight last year in Texas, me and Floyd had to pull them apart. They were ready to bump right there. We thought they were gonna bump. Hell, if we didn’t pull them apart it would have been a better fight than Spence-Garcia turned out to be.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-ceo-on-davis-romero-better-let-them-fight-ring-street--161163

So why not a better way to finished the animosity between the two but inside the ring. And the good thing is that both fighters are promoted by Floyd himself. So no problem to set up the fight and that what we are getting in December. But I think Romero is still raw talent and he might swallow more than he can chew against a prime Davis.

Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

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October 14, 2021, 09:18:05 AM
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Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

The statement from the camp of Floyd Mayweather is short and just leaving a statement that the two boxer Davis and Romero just hate each other and with no further details why and what the reason I think there's a hidden reason why the two ended up hating each other. Maybe it is some personal thing or maybe you're right that it's Floyd's company's initiative to make such statement to create hype. And since these two fighters have had an history of nearly fighting in the street then it would better seeing them fighting inside of the ring instead.
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October 14, 2021, 10:38:27 AM
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Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

The statement from the camp of Floyd Mayweather is short and just leaving a statement that the two boxer Davis and Romero just hate each other and with no further details why and what the reason I think there's a hidden reason why the two ended up hating each other. Maybe it is some personal thing or maybe you're right that it's Floyd's company's initiative to make such statement to create hype. And since these two fighters have had an history of nearly fighting in the street then it would better seeing them fighting inside of the ring instead.

Or maybe they have cross paths on Floyd gym many times already, have some kind of heated sparring. And I don't think that anyone can fake his animosity against each other. Rolly should be the one to prove something here and not the other way around. For sure Davis, will just laugh it off saying that there is a competition between the two. Rolly is just an upcoming fighter with less experience, but if he wanted to make a name in this division, they better beat Davis and walk the talk.
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Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

The statement from the camp of Floyd Mayweather is short and just leaving a statement that the two boxer Davis and Romero just hate each other and with no further details why and what the reason I think there's a hidden reason why the two ended up hating each other. Maybe it is some personal thing or maybe you're right that it's Floyd's company's initiative to make such statement to create hype. And since these two fighters have had an history of nearly fighting in the street then it would better seeing them fighting inside of the ring instead.

Or maybe they have cross paths on Floyd gym many times already, have some kind of heated sparring. And I don't think that anyone can fake his animosity against each other. Rolly should be the one to prove something here and not the other way around. For sure Davis, will just laugh it off saying that there is a competition between the two. Rolly is just an upcoming fighter with less experience, but if he wanted to make a name in this division, they better beat Davis and walk the talk.

Precisely! Or who knows just marketing propaganda so they can sell their tickets easy? Without any debate or disagreement, how can they make noise? So they need to find a way how to sell their fight. We have no idea about their true status in their real life. What we are seeing are just superficial. I will go for Davis here. Romero is the Challenger so let us see how far he can challenge Davis.
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October 17, 2021, 12:42:31 AM
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Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

The statement from the camp of Floyd Mayweather is short and just leaving a statement that the two boxer Davis and Romero just hate each other and with no further details why and what the reason I think there's a hidden reason why the two ended up hating each other. Maybe it is some personal thing or maybe you're right that it's Floyd's company's initiative to make such statement to create hype. And since these two fighters have had an history of nearly fighting in the street then it would better seeing them fighting inside of the ring instead.

Or maybe they have cross paths on Floyd gym many times already, have some kind of heated sparring. And I don't think that anyone can fake his animosity against each other. Rolly should be the one to prove something here and not the other way around. For sure Davis, will just laugh it off saying that there is a competition between the two. Rolly is just an upcoming fighter with less experience, but if he wanted to make a name in this division, they better beat Davis and walk the talk.

Floyd just come up with that story I believed, how can he said that this two has a beef? Unless it goes down as far as their amateur days wherein this 2 will always face in the finals and Davis had Romero's numbers.

So for me this is pure marketing propaganda or Floyd's term, building up both of his fighters, specially Davis who supposedly the heir apparent to his throne.

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October 17, 2021, 12:57:53 AM
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I think this fight was arranged by the TMT or Mayweather Promotions to gradually lift Gervonta Davis into much bigger fight, sadly Rolando Romero is just a stepping stone to Gervonta Davis. Although I can't fully say that this fight is not that fun to watch because of a mismatch.

Surely the odds are on Davis with a record of 25-0 (24 KO) while the young Romero is only half of his opponent's record 14-0 (12 KO). Still this young Romero has an height advantage (5'8") than can defeat Davis with a height of (5'5")

Still, the fight is interesting to watch since both are undefeated and will not give up easily since they both have clean records. As you can see both of them also have high chances of knocking down their opponent. Only one thing is sure for this fight if they are not a fixed fight, it will not last long base on what we see in their last fight especially Tank Davis when he will see an opportunity to knock his opponent, he won't hesitate to execute him.
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October 17, 2021, 01:46:55 AM
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Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

Good for Davis bad for Romero, Romero is all talks and hype he is like Wilder he thinks he is invincible, boxing is not only about the power it's also about skill, Davis has a huge edge here he may be short in height and reach but in his last fight he is able to hurt and knock the much taller Barrios, Tyson said you have a plan until you get hit in the face, Romero will soon learn what Wilder learned.
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Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

Good for Davis bad for Romero, Romero is all talks and hype he is like Wilder he thinks he is invincible, boxing is not only about the power it's also about skill, Davis has a huge edge here he may be short in height and reach but in his last fight he is able to hurt and knock the much taller Barrios, Tyson said you have a plan until you get hit in the face, Romero will soon learn what Wilder learned.

Lol, I love the comparison though, but we should understand where the kid is coming from, he is very young and wanted to make a name for himself in boxing. But calling Davis is far his biggest mistakes in his early career. We all know how good Davis is, he can back all the smack talks because he has all the tools?

How about Romero though? for sure his name is now of the radar for most boxing fans, but he still needs to prove that he belongs to this weight class because this is pretty much stock up division.

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October 17, 2021, 11:32:27 AM
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Boxers do take it personally, like what Canelo is for the Caleb fight. And the same here, Davis will definitely go for the KO because he is capable of, and in essence shut the mouth of Romero and give him a lesson not to trash talk to him and any champion.

It seems they hate each other there were circumstances where they almost clash in the street, it's just right that this match is created people love to see bath blood between fighters so they will see if who has the better control of his temper, this Romero is very brazen and arrogant he is telling people that Davis cannot touch, that's impossible Davis is so good at hurting his opponent, even if the opponent has a huge height and reach advantage.

Is that what they are talking about? Saying that this two has history before?

I'm not aware of such clash in the street? Is it when they are still promising fighters or when they are already professional?

In any case, this could be a good story line and maybe this is the reason why the Davis camp chooses Romero instead of chasing the other champion in this division.

It was not in the street though, do some research and this is what I found out:

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“When they were at the [Errol]Spence-[Danny]Garcia fight last year in Texas, me and Floyd had to pull them apart. They were ready to bump right there. We thought they were gonna bump. Hell, if we didn’t pull them apart it would have been a better fight than Spence-Garcia turned out to be.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-ceo-on-davis-romero-better-let-them-fight-ring-street--161163

So why not a better way to finished the animosity between the two but inside the ring. And the good thing is that both fighters are promoted by Floyd himself. So no problem to set up the fight and that what we are getting in December. But I think Romero is still raw talent and he might swallow more than he can chew against a prime Davis.

Ah OK, and since both are being under Floyd's company it make sense that they will somewhat create some hype because eventually they will have to fight it out. So good marketing, I think it was setup by Floyd setup to create hype specially on his new prospect Romero. Because he knows for sure that Davis can knock out this kid, but if Romero upsets Davis, then they can have a rematch. All money goes in to Floyd's pocket.

It was really stage by Floyd, Rolly might be good, but he needs Romero to be a household name in the US. And what better way but to pit him against his another prospect Gervonta Davis.

And even if Romero loss here, he maybe getting the recognition and down the line he might be given another chance to fight someone for the belt. And if he become a champion then Floyd as a promoter will definitely get big money from this kid.
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October 17, 2021, 12:48:27 PM
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It was really stage by Floyd, Rolly might be good, but he needs Romero to be a household name in the US. And what better way but to pit him against his another prospect Gervonta Davis.

And even if Romero loss here, he maybe getting the recognition and down the line he might be given another chance to fight someone for the belt. And if he become a champion then Floyd as a promoter will definitely get big money from this kid.

Floyd is very smart, he would make sure he makes money from his fighter and he would not just easily choose a fighter that he thinks would be his cash cow. This would be a big challenge for  Rolando Romero, but the prize is very high if he beats an undefeated and a KO master comes December 5.



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October 17, 2021, 10:48:58 PM
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Another video I uncovered, sparring session between Rolando Romero and Ryan Garcia,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYYDeRGHAA

No doubt that this kid has a bright future in boxing, this video is 4 years old, pre-pandemic. We don't know how much Rolly has improved, but Davis is on another level, more polished and technical boxer than Rolly. You can see the Ryan keeps tagging him with that left hook, but he keeps on coming back. Not sure though if Davis tags him with a powerful left, he might go down.

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October 18, 2021, 10:10:17 AM
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Another video I uncovered, sparring session between Rolando Romero and Ryan Garcia,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYYDeRGHAA

No doubt that this kid has a bright future in boxing, this video is 4 years old, pre-pandemic. We don't know how much Rolly has improved, but Davis is on another level, more polished and technical boxer than Rolly. You can see the Ryan keeps tagging him with that left hook, but he keeps on coming back. Not sure though if Davis tags him with a powerful left, he might go down.

They are wearing protective gears we have no way of knowing if he can take a punch from a guy who has power on both hands, it's very different wearing when you are wearing protective gear than when you are in a real fight inside the ring, Devonta can floor anyone with just a jab, Romero will pay all the disrespect that he's been giving to Gervonta come fight night.

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October 18, 2021, 10:41:23 AM
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Another video I uncovered, sparring session between Rolando Romero and Ryan Garcia,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYYDeRGHAA

No doubt that this kid has a bright future in boxing, this video is 4 years old, pre-pandemic. We don't know how much Rolly has improved, but Davis is on another level, more polished and technical boxer than Rolly. You can see the Ryan keeps tagging him with that left hook, but he keeps on coming back. Not sure though if Davis tags him with a powerful left, he might go down.

They are wearing protective gears we have no way of knowing if he can take a punch from a guy who has power on both hands, it's very different wearing when you are wearing protective gear than when you are in a real fight inside the ring, Devonta can floor anyone with just a jab, Romero will pay all the disrespect that he's been giving to Gervonta come fight night.

Well, Romero can't be so open like that when facing against Gervonta because he's most probably going to hit the canvass as for sure Gervonta has a much poweful jab than Garcia's.
That video was 4 years ago anyway, he could've improved this year already, but then again as @Baofeng said, Gervonta is on another level. It would be Rolly's biggest achievement If he can beat Gervonta.
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October 18, 2021, 10:59:27 AM
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Another video I uncovered, sparring session between Rolando Romero and Ryan Garcia,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYYDeRGHAA

No doubt that this kid has a bright future in boxing, this video is 4 years old, pre-pandemic. We don't know how much Rolly has improved, but Davis is on another level, more polished and technical boxer than Rolly. You can see the Ryan keeps tagging him with that left hook, but he keeps on coming back. Not sure though if Davis tags him with a powerful left, he might go down.

They are wearing protective gears we have no way of knowing if he can take a punch from a guy who has power on both hands, it's very different wearing when you are wearing protective gear than when you are in a real fight inside the ring, Devonta can floor anyone with just a jab, Romero will pay all the disrespect that he's been giving to Gervonta come fight night.

Well, Romero can't be so open like that when facing against Gervonta because he's most probably going to hit the canvass as for sure Gervonta has a much poweful jab than Garcia's.
That video was 4 years ago anyway, he could've improved this year already, but then again as @Baofeng said, Gervonta is on another level. It would be Rolly's biggest achievement If he can beat Gervonta.

Romero is slow, yes he has the power, but you can see that he needs to pull his trigger first before launching it. As compare to Garcia, who is ready anytime to throw that left hook. So if he is facing a fighter that is much faster than Davis, then he will be tag all night long. I agree that we can see the difference, Gervonta is on another level, elite and only few in the division that can much his speed and power.

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