Karnataka Government Banned Online Gambling

[fiulpro]

PREVIOUSLY there was a discussion regarding how the Karnataka Government ( a state in India ) might soon ban the Gambling and Betting ( online)..

On Tuesday The Karnataka Government Act, was submitted to be amended, it Bans all Online Gambling and  Online Betting. It does extend and would give the users a maximum imprisonment of 5 years and fine UpTo 1 lakh. But as previously stated in the news, the law does not include Horse Racing.

As per the law, "games means and includes online games, involving all forms of wagering or betting, including in the form of tokens valued in terms of the money paid before or after the issue of it, or electronic means and virtual currency, electronic transfer of funds in connection with any game of chance."

The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/state/top-karnataka-stories/karnataka-notifies-law-banning-online-gambling-1037736.html

- We might see stricter regulations from other states as well which even though might be challenged, but would take freedom out of people's hands when it comes to online Gambling and Betting.

Therefore be careful if you are Gambling in Karnataka now. Some sites do block the VPN as well, so you might be in a loss if you try to bet on things without legal consent from the government, let's hope the amends can be made in a positive sense, they might restrict but outright banning might cause people to use underhanded methods to engage in it, what do you think ?

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[Kong Hey Pakboy]

What country is this from? Not familiar with the name of the government so I can't gauge whether it's going to be an influential legislation. If I just assume, I am thinking that it's not going to have a big effect in gambling industry let alone the crypto gambling platform.

[Fesatmas]

Thanks for the news. In my opinion, if the government of Karnataka wants to really implement the whole gambling shutdown rule, nothing should be excluded. Because with one exception such as horse racing, gamblers will criticize the policy only to limit the middle class to gambling, while the rich can enjoy horse racing gambling. Even if they exclude again with Golf gambling.

Luckily I never gambled there.

[avikz]

Any kind of gambling activities are anyways banned in India, excluding horse racing. I am not sure why Karnataka had to pass a separate law to specifically ban online gambling. In a federal structure, Central has already created a law named "The public gambling act of 1867". So not sure why Karnataka created this law in a separate way! Makes no sense to have a law over an existing law that serves the same purpose at the end of the day! Just a waste of some beaurocratic manpower!

[haidil]

PREVIOUSLY there was a discussion regarding how the Karnataka Government ( a state in India ) might soon ban the Gambling and Betting ( online)..

On Tuesday The Karnataka Government Act, was submitted to be amended, it Bans all Online Gambling and  Online Betting. It does extend and would give the users a maximum imprisonment of 5 years and fine UpTo 1 lakh. But as previously stated in the news, the law does not include Horse Racing.

I don't know how this will be challenged yet, but the regulations are quite strict and will be very deterrent when the penalties are quite severe for those who violate the rules. Apart from online gambling, does the government also implement operations in every corner of the city and check all physical casinos? then penalize the owner?

[Zilon]

The ban wouldn't change a thing. But its a pity the fellow who committed suicide must have wagered above how much that he/she could afford to lose. However if Karnataka government wants to issue a ban on online gambling nothing should be excluded if not people would hide under the umbrella of horse racing and still go about their gambling with VPNs or decide to have a separate device strictly for gambling

[bL4nkcode]

What country is this from? Not familiar with the name of the government so I can't gauge whether it's going to be an influential legislation.

A state in india.

The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)

If this was really the reason of the ban, then they should educate people about the moderation in gambling instead of banning the whole industry or a have this kind of feature on the platform, same like in trading on some exchanges.

The government do benefits the tax and etc. from the industry it's such an unfortunate..

[fiulpro]

What country is this from? Not familiar with the name of the government so I can't gauge whether it's going to be an influential legislation. If I just assume, I am thinking that it's not going to have a big effect in gambling industry let alone the crypto gambling platform.

It's a state in India.
It's not much about influence on the industry it's more about people gambling legally and looking for new updates as well.

Plus the government there is bound to influence the governments around the whole state for example, Tamil Nadu.

This might be a but of a problem with people living there. But the government continues to support thins like house betting therefore it's all really twisted.

They need more gambling Addiction helplines, educate the kids more about everything and go for regulation rather than banning.

Let's see how it goes.

[Oshosondy]

The death is painful, that is what could likely be a result of gambling addiction, it is not good at all to be addicted to anything, gambling should be fun and low amount should be only used for it, betting more than your low amount budgeted for it is the beginning of gambling addiction. I hope there will be more ways people can be orientated before they start to gamble to help them not to be addicted.

But as previously stated in the news, the law does not include Horse Racing.

Horse racing is gambling, or if used as a form of gambling it should also be automatically prohibited in the state if the law is enforced.

they might restrict but outright banning might cause people to use underhanded methods to engage in it, what do you think ?

That is just it, if gambling is banned in the state in India, people in the state will go for underground ways to gamble, but this will really lessen people gambling in the state.

What country is this from? Not familiar with the name of the government so I can't gauge whether it's going to be an influential legislation.

I think it is clearly stated in the OP that it is a state in India.

[Fortify]

PREVIOUSLY there was a discussion regarding how the Karnataka Government ( a state in India ) might soon ban the Gambling and Betting ( online)..

On Tuesday The Karnataka Government Act, was submitted to be amended, it Bans all Online Gambling and  Online Betting. It does extend and would give the users a maximum imprisonment of 5 years and fine UpTo 1 lakh. But as previously stated in the news, the law does not include Horse Racing.

As per the law, "games means and includes online games, involving all forms of wagering or betting, including in the form of tokens valued in terms of the money paid before or after the issue of it, or electronic means and virtual currency, electronic transfer of funds in connection with any game of chance."

The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/state/top-karnataka-stories/karnataka-notifies-law-banning-online-gambling-1037736.html

- We might see stricter regulations from other states as well which even though might be challenged, but would take freedom out of people's hands when it comes to online Gambling and Betting.

Therefore be careful if you are Gambling in Karnataka now. Some sites do block the VPN as well, so you might be in a loss if you try to bet on things without legal consent from the government, let's hope the amends can be made in a positive sense, they might restrict but outright banning might cause people to use underhanded methods to engage in it, what do you think ?

It sounds like the owner of the horse racing tracks in that state must be well connected to the politicians who enacted this law. I don't see why horse racing should have been excluded for any other reason than corruption. It's a shame that such laws are administered and controlled at a state level because this creates all sorts of ruptures through the country (not only limited to gambling). The federal government should seriously look into why the politicians have decided that all but one major form of gambling is acceptable, because it seems very suspect. Why should online gambling be banned? Does it apply to people passing through the state and playing on their personal devices? It leaves open far too much to interpretation and abuse.

[maju69]

Like everything else about horse racing being excluded, does the government there have a good reason why horse racing could be excluded? because if in the end everyone ran to the horse races and gambled, then the existing heretical rules would only benefit the horse racing dealers. If that's the rule, then I agree that all types of gambling, whatever the name, must be stopped.

[Fatunad]

Thanks for the news. In my opinion, if the government of Karnataka wants to really implement the whole gambling shutdown rule, nothing should be excluded. Because with one exception such as horse racing, gamblers will criticize the policy only to limit the middle class to gambling, while the rich can enjoy horse racing gambling. Even if they exclude again with Golf gambling.

Luckily I never gambled there.

If thats the set-up then theres no much that citizens could do even if they would file up a petition or make out some rallies or something trying to fight for opposition then it would be just useless or senseless.
Government could impose out new rules as much as they like and exclude out things which they do seem that will really be beneficial for them and even you do saw that it wasnt really totally been blocked
and there are still some games which are allowed but it seems it isnt really for ordinary gamblers then what you can do?

[DoublerHunter]

Any kind of gambling activities are anyways banned in India, excluding horse racing. I am not sure why Karnataka had to pass a separate law to specifically ban online gambling. In a federal structure, Central has already created a law named "The public gambling act of 1867". So not sure why Karnataka created this law in a separate way! Makes no sense to have a law over an existing law that serves the same purpose at the end of the day! Just a waste of some beaurocratic manpower!

^ That is definitely right and I have doubt that because also due to their religion, as far as I know, the country of Karnataka the largest religion there is Hinduism and followed by Islamic religion which is very against from gambling activity since then. They always threat gambling is a mortal sin so the reason for banning it. Probably the law that you are talking about is the beginning of banning gambling in their place.
Nevertheless, we cant ague them, this is what they believed and respect what they believe.

[wxa7115]

The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)

If this was really the reason of the ban, then they should educate people about the moderation in gambling instead of banning the whole industry or a have this kind of feature on the platform, same like in trading on some exchanges.

The government do benefits the tax and etc. from the industry it's such an unfortunate..

Any loss of life is always tragic but this is taking things too far, people die all the time in car crashes all over the world, does this means that we should ban cars? Obviously no, the car has brought many benefits to the world and even if people suffer accidents while driving no one is thinking about banning the technology as that would be a net loss for society in general.

Gambling is similar, some people suffer consequences for their actions while they gamble, however should we ban an industry that produces a lot of jobs, taxes and entertainment to the rest of the population just because a few cannot control themselves? I think the answer to that should be no as well, but it seems the politicians at that state in India do not agree with me.

[Maus0728]

- We might see stricter regulations from other states as well which even though might be challenged, but would take freedom out of people's hands when it comes to online Gambling and Betting.

Therefore be careful if you are Gambling in Karnataka now. Some sites do block the VPN as well, so you might be in a loss if you try to bet on things without legal consent from the government, let's hope the amends can be made in a positive sense, they might restrict but outright banning might cause people to use underhanded methods to engage in it, what do you think ?

Regulating online betting with such issue can be a bad thing for their state but can also be a good decision. Bad if most of the citizens in Karnataka uses gambling just as their part time stress relievers and have a balanced time in gambling and in their daily living, and it might spark a little issue from those gamblers against their state. Good if and only if there are people that tend to RELY on gambling and sees it to be their businesses, in which can really be a bad thing for their citizens both mentally and financially.

On the other hand, governments must take regulations onto considerations first before really banning a certain thing just because of an issue. They can help their citizens with such gambling addiction by offering free therapies to those that are addicted and they can also help their people more inline in money making from what they know gambling can do.

[uneng]

The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)

That is a very weak argument to pass a gambling ban law, excluding horse racing category from the ban. In the regulators' view a gambler who plays at a traditional casino is prone to commit suicide, but a gambler who bets on horse racing isn't. How do they explain the difference of effects horse racing and another kinds of gambling can cause to the players? After all they are all gambling games.

Does anyone at least question the flawed arguments presented by authorities in India?

[JeromeTash]

So they are allowing other forms of gambling that are not online based?

Which kind of ban and double standards are these?
I don't think the ban might be effective in general. It's still so easy to circumvent such ban through online gambling platforms.

[tulusikhlas]

Maybe it's the no-gambling rule that exempts politicians from gambling legally. It is tantamount to useless making rules and laws regarding the prohibition of gambling in Karnataka. After all, they are mostly poor people who rely on income from the market, raising livestock and also gardening. The number of unemployed in Karnataka has increased dramatically since the pandemic. The reason is that the prohibition of gambling can make people pay more attention to their finances so they are not spent just on gambling. But what makes me suspicious is the horse race that passes and is on the excluded list.

[Quidat]

It just doesn't make some sense that they haven't abolished all of it and still have horse racing, they should have excluded it all. I think people will really find some other ways and alternatives to do what they feels like especially if the urge was to gamble, it should be an expected scenario to use underhanded methods because of this restriction. I think it wouldn't be just in Karnataka, it will spread like a wildfire in other states.

For sure there are some exclusive request because knowing that horse racing is something a gambling game which does involved with lots of rich gamblers which means that government could really see some advantage
but we cant really remove the possibilities of such request of someone which is close into the top ranks.It is really a bit questionable that they had banned online gambling but
excluding horse racing then it isnt bad to make out some presumptions.

[hello_good_sir]

I think that this is going to be quite unenforceable.

Governments can ban whatever they want but at the end of the day if they can't prevent people from using VPNs etc. it's not going to work.

Seems like a knee-jerk reaction in my opinion. An overreaction to a tragedy that implicates the whole population & probably their tax revenue negatively.