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October 15, 2021, 04:45:20 AM
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Though really, if all your opponents were people who played it safe, why bother playing just leave the table imo.
I wouldn't leave if they're playing safe. All of the people at the table will definitely play for their own safety and they won't just leave just as you're thinking. But if you think that it's better for you to leave the table and look elsewhere then you do it. But that's not the best option IMO if you want to play with others through the same table. You all have the same chance of bluffing and winning in cards and it's all going to be depending on when you fold and when to call at most times. Adopting what others are doing will make you last in a table.
Yes, playing that game with that player will not be a problem because we can also play safe like them. We can leave the table if we can not find exciting experiences, so we need to move to the other table to get that experience. But when we spend many rounds without any thrill, maybe someone on that table will try to give a bluff to the other player. At that time, we will see who will be panic because of the bluff and can not control his mind and only play in a rush.



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October 15, 2021, 07:11:03 AM
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I fell in love with poker when the whole Texas Hold'em craze started around 2003-4ish range.  I was in college at the time and man we played every single night for months on end.  Bought a chip set as well which I still have.  Unfortunately I haven't been playing as much as I'd like to lately, but plan to start getting in to playing more soon.  I'm just curious what kind of strategies you guys employ when playing?  I know there aren't a ton of tricks one can use, but there are some out there.  I guess there's also a big difference when you're playing in person ( bluffing strategies ) vs playing online.  I'd like to hear tips/tricks/strategies for both! 

Look, instead of giving you strategy advice, as many have done and some have done showing that they don't have much idea, I will tell you to think well why you want to play. If you started playing in 2003 and you ask these questions I bet you didn't become a winning poker player back then. It was the golden age of poker, by learning 4 rules like playing few hands and playing them aggressively you could make a fortune. I started playing when the decline started and it wasn't that easy anymore. And since then it has been increasingly difficult to play and win.

That's why I tell you to ask yourself: why do you want to play? Fun? Fine. To make money? Don't have high expectations and get the idea that you will have to work hard, learn about statistics, balancing ranges and a lot of stuff and you will also have to buy (legal) statistical programs.


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October 15, 2021, 03:34:08 PM
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I am not a good poker player therefore I tend to loose most of the times, therefore for me the best strategy is actually knowing when to quit.

Some people drag on the game too long because they feel like they are gonna make all the money back, whatever they have lost, which does make it really difficult for them to realize that being too emotional makes your odds of winning even lower.

Other than that I think if we put everything aside, the best winning strategy would be learning more and gaining more experience overtime, because it's not just a game of luck but a game of skill as well.

You are right, sometimes it is better to stop playing at the right time, sometimes I ignore that decision and end up losing everything, despite the effort of all the previous hands, I have a friend who whenever he plays or wins or ends in a good place, I don't know if it's his ability, but I admire that about him and the way he plays pool. What I have seen in him is that concentration does everything, he quickly studies the way all the players at the table play, he just pays attention to it and draws conclusions quickly, he tells me to assume certain plays that others make It helps him a lot to establish his strategy, obviously he used to play a lot at pokerstars.net, I think that's where he got all that level.

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October 15, 2021, 03:51:00 PM
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One of my friend has tried to introduce me to poker as that is one of his best games and he has made some money from playing poker severally and I refuse because I am not familiar with the strategy they use to make me a successful poker player. Am very good in playing Dice on Stake.com and I have made some money not only that, I have grown my account tia high level which enable me to earn high bonus on monthly basis.
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October 15, 2021, 05:17:37 PM
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A player with a good hand makes a decision very quickly, and a player who takes longer than usual to make a decision obviously doubts his cards.

I cant fully agree with this assumption. If you think so, you might be tricked easily by your opponent. I think you need to watch some videos of poker competition where you can see many popular players in the same table. You'll see, even if someone own a very good hand and have lets say 90% winning chance, the player will not do it fast. Most will act like they are thinking about the probabilities or even they will act like they are doubting their own cards to trick their opponents.

Yeah I agree with you as well that this is absolutely not the case.  By saying that, or playing with having that in mind, you're going to fall to bluffs really easily.  One of the worst things you can do is be too aggressive and make your moves too quickly.  That is just often a dead giveaway that you've got a good hand and you're likely to have people just folding on you and your good hand.
And this takes us to the fascinating world of poker tells, obviously unless you get to know a player and you play in person this is pretty much impossible to apply but expert poker players use tactics similar to what you would expect from people in security agencies to give themselves an edge, you probably have seen this as well on those poker tournaments on TV, probably the best I have seen at this is Phil Hellmuth as I have seen him literally guessing the cards his opponent had in an impressive display of skill.

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October 15, 2021, 06:06:57 PM
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A player with a good hand makes a decision very quickly, and a player who takes longer than usual to make a decision obviously doubts his cards.

I cant fully agree with this assumption. If you think so, you might be tricked easily by your opponent. I think you need to watch some videos of poker competition where you can see many popular players in the same table. You'll see, even if someone own a very good hand and have lets say 90% winning chance, the player will not do it fast. Most will act like they are thinking about the probabilities or even they will act like they are doubting their own cards to trick their opponents.

Yeah I agree with you as well that this is absolutely not the case.  By saying that, or playing with having that in mind, you're going to fall to bluffs really easily.  One of the worst things you can do is be too aggressive and make your moves too quickly.  That is just often a dead giveaway that you've got a good hand and you're likely to have people just folding on you and your good hand.
And this takes us to the fascinating world of poker tells, obviously unless you get to know a player and you play in person this is pretty much impossible to apply but expert poker players use tactics similar to what you would expect from people in security agencies to give themselves an edge, you probably have seen this as well on those poker tournaments on TV, probably the best I have seen at this is Phil Hellmuth as I have seen him literally guessing the cards his opponent had in an impressive display of skill.
Experienced gives him that skills, by watching you will learn different strategies but by applying it inside the table it will be established that knowledge, you need to play and apply whatever you acquire from watching those expert players; they give you hint and potential scenery inside the table.

What you need to do is to work on it and make sure that you anticipate everything. It won't be the same in most cases, but the pattern is always there for you to follow.

Poker is a game of strategy and skills. Enhancing yours from time to time will serve as your advantage.

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October 15, 2021, 07:53:10 PM
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One of my friend has tried to introduce me to poker as that is one of his best games and he has made some money from playing poker severally and I refuse because I am not familiar with the strategy they use to make me a successful poker player. Am very good in playing Dice on Stake.com and I have made some money not only that, I have grown my account tia high level which enable me to earn high bonus on monthly basis.
Good for you but this isnt something that you could really make out some comparison in between poker which is strategic based and this is something much worth compared to dice because dice games is against with

the house and we know that house do always win in the end and its just really that not right that you do make out some comparison on just simple because odds or chances will really be varying on different factors.

In poker which is really a strategic kind of games,the more experience you do get the more chances for you to win but of course it isnt guaranteed but at least you could really have that chance.
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October 15, 2021, 08:12:55 PM
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I fell in love with poker when the whole Texas Hold'em craze started around 2003-4ish range.  I was in college at the time and man we played every single night for months on end.  Bought a chip set as well which I still have.  Unfortunately I haven't been playing as much as I'd like to lately, but plan to start getting in to playing more soon.  I'm just curious what kind of strategies you guys employ when playing?  I know there aren't a ton of tricks one can use, but there are some out there.  I guess there's also a big difference when you're playing in person ( bluffing strategies ) vs playing online.  I'd like to hear tips/tricks/strategies for both! 
Comparing out playing online poker and playing poker physically or in front with other players does really have different vibe.
When it comes to tricks and ways then it would really be a combination but commonly these are the things been done.

Play Fewer Hands And Play Them Aggressively.
Don't Be The First Player To Limp.
“Semi-Bluff” Aggressively with Your Draws.
Fast-Play Your Strong Hands to Build the Pot and Make More Money.
Defend Your Big Blind (with the Right Hands)
Fold When You're Unsure.


Source: https://upswingpoker.com/quick-poker-tips-texas-holdem/

I have copied it out because this is surely what most people been doing most of the time.


These are a lot of good suggestions. Ultimately the temperament of the player is going to play a big part, especially with online poker where you will see hundreds more hands per day than you would in a comparable sitting in a live casino. Having the patience to sit around for many hours, waiting for the right hands to come along and playing them most effectively can make or break your bank roll. You need to be willing to fold 30 hands if the conditions are wrong and then play 5 really strong hands consecutively after that. Many people will battle with boredom and try to spice up their game but end up leaking chips. Definitely avoid taking any alcohol or drugs while playing as they can very easily impair your abilities.

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October 15, 2021, 09:32:52 PM
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I guess there's also a big difference when you're playing in person ( bluffing strategies ) vs playing online. 

Can't agree with this statement man. If you're playing with someone you can "read" his moves without any visual contact. If someone is raising only with monster hands you will be enough two times to understand it, and from his view you're ready to get bluffed.

In offline poker it's just easier to do with emotions of your opponent. Just more faster way to teach how your opponent moves and his behavior. That's all


I'd like to hear tips/tricks/strategies for both! 

Main (and i think - golden) tip: If you don't see fish on the table, that's mean that you are the fish! (c) Fargo

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I've always liked poker too, and like you, that desire manifested itself in college.
After that I never had anyone to play with, so I went to online games where I had a bad experience and lost a lot of money, since then I haven't played much anymore.

I believe that poker is a game that demands a lot of emotional, knowing how to bluff and control your feelings, without giving your game away and at the same time being able to deceive your opponents. the rest is thetechnique that people acquire in a short time.

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Way back from the previous day's basic things I learned from myself and also from my mistakes. When you think the odds or the card is given to you is not in favour you can fold immediately sometimes people use this to lure and bait their enemy but if you are not strong enough to do that fold already. If you have a good card try to push this and not give up also with the card given to you and show up you can use those to think about the probable outcomes of the cards in the table. Also, try to keep relax sometimes in real poker they can easily identify if you have a good card or not depends on your gestures.

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October 16, 2021, 07:15:03 AM
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Though really, if all your opponents were people who played it safe, why bother playing just leave the table imo.
I wouldn't leave if they're playing safe. All of the people at the table will definitely play for their own safety and they won't just leave just as you're thinking. But if you think that it's better for you to leave the table and look elsewhere then you do it. But that's not the best option IMO if you want to play with others through the same table. You all have the same chance of bluffing and winning in cards and it's all going to be depending on when you fold and when to call at most times. Adopting what others are doing will make you last in a table.

I disagree.

Bluffing is not that easy to do, I mean not because you bluff like other means you're gonna have a high chance of winning. Bluffing requires a lot of things, first thing to be consider is your cards, next is your opponents (if he/she loves to bluff or not), next is the probability of what cards your opponents has, next is your funds, because you can't always make calls without even thinking the consequences.

So leaving the table is a must if your instinct is telling you to leave because you're not in the right condition to compete.
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October 16, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
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I've always liked poker too, and like you, that desire manifested itself in college.
After that I never had anyone to play with, so I went to online games where I had a bad experience and lost a lot of money, since then I haven't played much anymore.
not on my place because everytime you wanted to find opponent in poker just say a word and there is already there .
but yes it  is more accessible to play online specially now that pandemic is around us.

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I believe that poker is a game that demands a lot of emotional, knowing how to bluff and control your feelings, without giving your game away and at the same time being able to deceive your opponents. the rest is thetechnique that people acquire in a short time.
that is preferable in Real poker but in online gambling emotion cannot be part against opponent though in our own this is usable because it is our self control that will keep us safer .

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October 16, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
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Though really, if all your opponents were people who played it safe, why bother playing just leave the table imo.
I wouldn't leave if they're playing safe. All of the people at the table will definitely play for their own safety and they won't just leave just as you're thinking. But if you think that it's better for you to leave the table and look elsewhere then you do it. But that's not the best option IMO if you want to play with others through the same table. You all have the same chance of bluffing and winning in cards and it's all going to be depending on when you fold and when to call at most times. Adopting what others are doing will make you last in a table.

I disagree.

Bluffing is not that easy to do, I mean not because you bluff like other means you're gonna have a high chance of winning. Bluffing requires a lot of things, first thing to be consider is your cards, next is your opponents (if he/she loves to bluff or not), next is the probability of what cards your opponents has, next is your funds, because you can't always make calls without even thinking the consequences.

So leaving the table is a must if your instinct is telling you to leave because you're not in the right condition to compete.
It actually doesn't need a lot of things to bluff. You just go even if your cards aren't that good and that's it. No other requirements, no other things that requiring as you say.
That's why it's called bluffing because you're just going to fake that you've got a good hands and you're going to keep on calling despite of having a bad hand.

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Look, instead of giving you strategy advice, as many have done and some have done showing that they don't have much idea, I will tell you to think well why you want to play. If you started playing in 2003 and you ask these questions I bet you didn't become a winning poker player back then. It was the golden age of poker, by learning 4 rules like playing few hands and playing them aggressively you could make a fortune. I started playing when the decline started and it wasn't that easy anymore. And since then it has been increasingly difficult to play and win.

That's why I tell you to ask yourself: why do you want to play? Fun? Fine. To make money? Don't have high expectations and get the idea that you will have to work hard, learn about statistics, balancing ranges and a lot of stuff and you will also have to buy (legal) statistical programs.

I wonder if you understand the relationship of everything that you have listed? All these statistics grinder software users who flooded all poker rooms eventually ate themselves. It makes no sense for an ordinary player to play online, since there are these users at each table and he initially has less chances against them, as a result, such a user stops playing online. As a result, poker came to the position in which it is now - the golden years are behind and there are very few chances for the revival of the former interest, and taking into account how quickly the bots are progressing, in the future everything will be even worse.

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One of my friend has tried to introduce me to poker as that is one of his best games and he has made some money from playing poker severally and I refuse because I am not familiar with the strategy they use to make me a successful poker player. Am very good in playing Dice on Stake.com and I have made some money not only that, I have grown my account tia high level which enable me to earn high bonus on monthly basis.
Good for you but this isnt something that you could really make out some comparison in between poker which is strategic based and this is something much worth compared to dice because dice games is against with

the house and we know that house do always win in the end and its just really that not right that you do make out some comparison on just simple because odds or chances will really be varying on different factors.

In poker which is really a strategic kind of games,the more experience you do get the more chances for you to win but of course it isnt guaranteed but at least you could really have that chance.
Which simply means the odds for playing poker is still against the players no matter how skilled you are. Remember that the gambling companies are out to make profit and that will only come from players that loses their games against the Odds of the house. Good to know that you later accept the fact that no matter how skilled you are your winning is not guaranteed.
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October 16, 2021, 01:54:03 PM
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Which simply means the odds for playing poker is still against the players no matter how skilled you are. Remember that the gambling companies are out to make profit and that will only come from players that loses their games against the Odds of the house. Good to know that you later accept the fact that no matter how skilled you are your winning is not guaranteed.
At least you can increase your chances of winning if your opponents are real players than if you will against the house edge which is pure luck.
Skilled players can bluff to their opponent, using wise strategies that can be used in order to give a wrong impression and not to be bluffed by them.

If we talked about skilled poker players, all I can say is they have an advantage over the normal ones. So I don't think so the chances of winning will not increase if you are a more experience and skilled poker player, there is a high potential that you can read what card in your opponent is.
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October 16, 2021, 03:16:06 PM
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It has always seemed to me that the strategies in poker are very particular, in that sense I think that the styles of games "could" be better advice for someone who starts regardless of their experience.

The styles of games change a lot, raising in UTG with  the classic so-called premium hands "is an old strategy" that has been reformed today with the hyper-aggressive game preflop, the classic 2.5x-3x can you lead to the road of running into guys who pay you 72s along the way, exaggerated but literal, so reading the flop (or streets) is very difficult nowadays depending on the field on the table.

And to summarize it, I believe that the strategy should always be maintained but the art of poker is to include a style that adapts to each situation...

Although I think your thing is live poker with friends, if it is that way then poker is like riding bicycle.

Strategies-styles-situation. Relationship type status: it's complicated.

conclusion you should never answer the question in the title of the Topic unless you use inverse psychology today, tomorrow is the inverse of today and after the inverse of the day after.  : )

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October 16, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
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I fell in love with poker when the whole Texas Hold'em craze started around 2003-4ish range.  I was in college at the time and man we played every single night for months on end.  Bought a chip set as well which I still have.  Unfortunately I haven't been playing as much as I'd like to lately, but plan to start getting in to playing more soon.  I'm just curious what kind of strategies you guys employ when playing?  I know there aren't a ton of tricks one can use, but there are some out there.  I guess there's also a big difference when you're playing in person ( bluffing strategies ) vs playing online.  I'd like to hear tips/tricks/strategies for both!  

Poker is one of the few gambling activites that needs pure-talent or skill to play with. The tricks and strategies varies in online and physical play. Because bluffing can be a dangerous one especially if you play in physically in a room of people and depends on how you interact with your opponents.
These are common strategies from beginners to advance players.

* Use non-made hands with backdoor flush draws to bluff
* Check-raise more frequently from the big blind
* Pocket pairs and suited connectors are money-maker in multiway pots
* Don't be afraid to check-raise with draws after calling a 3-bet
* Consider overbetting when you have the nut advantage

Source: https://upswingpoker.com/advanced-tips-for-poker/amp/

I copied this from the link because their words and terms are more suitable and easy to understand than mine.


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