Binance Seizing Accounts!

[dkbit98]

There are multiple people from Canada, UK, Brazil, and Colombia who reported that Binance seized and frozen their accounts because of Netherlands Tax Investigation, even if they have no connection with Netherland nor they are Dutch citizens.
Binance apparently flagged their accounts for money laundering and criminal activities, and one guy from Canada contacted their support and got this reply with strange future date October 24th.
I can't be sure if this is legit, but I noticed that r/binance reddit moderators are deleting any post connected with this, so it's best to think twice before you use Binance again.

As written Previously. My account was Seize by Binance without notice. They said the Dutch Financial Police is doing an investigation on money Laundering. I have no relation to the Dutch whatsoever. I am asking Reddit community to help find a way to reach out to binance to present my case. I have all financial records from how I earn my money to where I purchased my coin via Bank transfer to VirgoCX exchange and all email contact with them. No one is hearing me out. I don't know what to do. I am crypto trader and this is what I do for a living now. My wife and I sold our house and put everything in this and now it's taken away from us without notice.

What is needed now

- a lawyer that understand this type of situation or been through it (please no spam).

- someone from Binance to guide me on how I can proceed this process faster

- someone from the FIOD (Dutch Financial Crime Unit) to let me to talk to them so I can send them whatever they need to prove my innocent. I want to help them, Help me. Please, I left you my email and phone number numerous times. I just call me back!

Attached is the email I received from the FIOD (Dutch Financial Police) which make no sense because the date is wrong! "Also, Binance Support was the one that gave me the email to contact them"

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/q9xy5q/binance_seized_my_life_took_everything_i_have/

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[Charles-Tim]

We should always have this in mind, that if not our key it is not our coin on the blockchain, this makes us not to have the full control over what (the coin) we suppose to have full control on. What to solve this kind of issue is to use a noncustododial wallet and decentralized exchange that can provide the full control we need. Today it is Binance, that doesn't mean it won't be any other reputed centralized exchange next time.

[stompix]

Seems a bit fake, no criminal investigation team will release any information to the person suspected of a criminal act this way, and for sure they will not tell them why they have frozen their funds before a case is brought in court. Neither would Binance be allowed to tell you anything about the reasons why your account is frozen, that is called tipping off and they would be prosecuted also if they inform the possible suspect of the case against them.
FIOD gathers information, then they make a file and they will hand it to a prosecutor, this will decide how to act from now on, and if he goes to court, before that no information like this will be told to the one being investigated.

Hello, were from the police, yeah, you're a suspect in a money-laundering scheme, will give about two-three months so you can erase all the traces and contact all your accomplices, then we will drop you an email again!

[dkbit98]

Binance does not provide such contacts.

Are you official Binance exchange account and can you please post some proof about that?
I said that I can't be sure if this reddit reports are true or not, but I also don't trust Binance and even less some random binance coin accounts in forum.

[buwaytress]

Doesn't even feel like a phishing/scam etc. Just some guy trolling, or reddit OP having a bit of fun cause he's bored. Really wouldn't be the first time, best way to get several thousand upvotes

First smell of fish: no one sells their house to put it all into an exchange. Anyone who does, well, doesn't exist.

Secondly, Dutch tax authorities won't be emailing like this. That's way too efficient and proper to be true.

Binance guerrilla marketing huh?

[stompix]

https://preview.redd.it/76s51ebz90u71.jpg

Fabricated mail with date October 24th, 2021

Actually, that's the thing that gives it a bit of legitimacy.
Why is the date of my letter in the future?
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/belastingaangifte/content/datum_brief_dag_in_de_toekomst

So the guy who did that knows how the FIOD works a little or he received at least one email from them yesterday or whenever this happened.
If someone would fabricate everything he wouldn't be so dumb to put a fake date, so I assume the one that posted this was somehow in touch with the FIOD but I doubt that all the content of that letter is the original.

[dkbit98]

Binance never gives any contacts of official departments of other countries

Why are you avoiding my question I asked before?
Are you official Binance exchange account and can you please post some proof about that?
If you don't reply I will consider you a fake representative from now on.

[bill gator]

Whether or not this is a fake claim, there are obvious concerns with keeping any coin on an exchange or wallet that you do not have exclusive control over. I know there are people that have circumstances that makes it impossible to avoid using exchanges or having their own address, but outside of that there should be as little coin as possible out of your control.

We've seen it too many times in the past; exchanges blow up in popularity and then disappear, for one reason or another, once they reach peak holdings.

[Husires]

I don't believe these claims and they seem to be an attempt to scare people into checking identity but that doesn't mean they won't Seize your account if they want to.
They have a condition that allows them to seizing your account, you can't do anything, and they can change the databases and delete your account without you being able to prove it.


They will not appear to seizing accounts randomly, but will respond to any request from government agencies.

[Darker45]

This is strange enough that this case is either a scam attempt by somebody or the user is simply high of anything and he/she is just having fun.

For one, the letter which is supposed to be coming from the Dutch authorities, is poorly written. And aside from the interesting details pointed out by some users here, it seems to me the content itself is dubious. For example, can a public prosecutor order an international company to freeze and even seize assets under investigation? I don't think so. I could be mistaken, but that's not the work of a public prosecutor. Secondly, why is there forfeiture and confiscation when the account is already frozen? After all, they're still investigating.

[stompix]

For example, can a public prosecutor order an international company to freeze and even seize assets under investigation? I don't think so.

Yes! As long as it has sufficient evidence of a crime or illegality being committed that affects either a citizen or a business of the said country or has a connection to such one he can.
There are a lot of international treaties that allow such a thing and Binance right now is in no position to even dare challenge such a request.

I could be mistaken, but that's not the work of a public prosecutor.

Yes, it is, FIOD does the investigation, the prosecutor orders the legal action.

Secondly, why is there forfeiture and confiscation when the account is already frozen? After all, they're still investigating.

Depends on the gravity of the case, the mobility of the assets, and the prosecutor's decision.
If he has concluded that simply freezing the account and letting Binance be a custodian for the assets is not secure enough he can order those to be seized and transferred to the investigation unit.

Pretty simple stuff, but again doesn't mean that this case is real, my hunch is still on the guy receiving a completely different letter from FIOD and doctoring the content.

[noormcs5]

There are multiple people from Canada, UK, Brazil, and Colombia who reported that Binance seized and frozen their accounts because of Netherlands Tax Investigation, even if they have no connection with Netherland nor they are Dutch citizens.
Binance apparently flagged their accounts for money laundering and criminal activities, and one guy from Canada contacted their support and got this reply with strange future date October 24th.
I can't be sure if this is legit, but I noticed that r/binance reddit moderators are deleting any post connected with this, so it's best to think twice before you use Binance again.

Well that's not acceptable if they start to block the accounts without any reason. They can't do this because the accounts contains people hard earned money. Even if they want to close the accounts, they should give people deadline that they should withdraw from the accounts.
Do they have any proof of money laundering ? They should share it and get the opinion from the affected users also.

[dkbit98]

There are more reports like this coming from Colombia that got suspended and frozen following Dutch police inquiry.
Users who got affected by this joined together and created a lawsuits against Binance so there is ongoing criminal investigation now.
It looks that most of affected users used Binance P2P platform, some of them got email to contact Dutch authorities, others had to show proof of Colombian identification and income, and some of them even had to contact United States authorities.


Source article written in Spanish:
https://www.criptonoticias.com/comunidad/binance-bloquea-usuarios-colombia-investigacion-policia-holandesa/

Binance may block access to your account pending closure of your account.

https://www.binance.com/en/terms

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5825/58257773.html

Oh, so now it's not a scam, and Binance is really seizing accounts and freezing funds?!
Then I don't understand what's with all the posting of comment screenshots from reddit, better prepare yourself for bunch of lawsuits because you can't do whatever you want.
There is obviously something more behind this story, so let's see what happens in next few months.



You are contradicting yourself, showing terms and admitting that you are seizing and freezing accounts, but after that you are saying it's all fabrication and fake

More fabricated stories?

Yeah, it's the same fabrication like when Binance caused that flash crash 87% drop for Bitcoin price because of the ''algorithm bug'', so I guess it must all be some global conspiracy against Binance... 

Dear DT-Members pay attention that screenshot are probably fabricated by trolls. Look at the date. dkbit98 - are you part of the team of these trolls?

Are you blind or just dumb by any chance?
First, you still didn't reply to my repeated questions if you are really official representative of Binance exchange in this forum or not.
Second, I saw that date is future and I clearly said that in my first post of this topic, so you need to go back and read that again,
than one member replied that exactly this gives more legitimacy to this screenshot, and it's not uncommon in Netherlands.

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Why is the date of my letter in the future?

Good question. Because that's pretty strange. But we do have a reason for that.
Because we send hundreds of thousands of letters a week. And sometimes a million a day. We usually print these letters at night. Printing all those letters takes time. Sometimes it even takes a few days to print a large mailing.
If we use today's date and print the letter today, we will not send it until tomorrow. Then you will receive the letter the day after tomorrow at the earliest. Or maybe even later.
Suppose the letter states that you must respond. And you have 4 weeks to do so from the date of the letter. Then you do not have 4 weeks, but less.
Of course you can't.
And to prevent that, the date of your letter is in the future.
This way we give you and everyone else a few days extra time to respond.

https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/belastingaangifte/content/datum_brief_dag_in_de_toekomst

The rules on Binance are the same for everyone. Those who violate the rules are faced with appropriate sanctions

We are going to see if the this lawsuit against Binance is also fabricated or not, and who is lying here.

Binance is not responsible for the actions of the Dutch authorities. If they can afford such liberties in the dates in answers concerning finances, then all claims about it should be set to the Dutch authorities

You are again avoiding to answer my question so I will not continue this discussion with you anymore, and I am supporting red flag against you created by suchmoon in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367331

EDIT:
Since scammer deleted many of his previous posts in this topic you can find them all archived here:
https://ninjastic.space/topic/5366158
https://loyce.club/archive/topics/536/5366158.html

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[Stalker22]

Binance is not responsible for the actions of the Dutch authorities. If they can afford such liberties in the dates in answers concerning finances, then all claims about it should be set to the Dutch authorities

You are again avoiding to answer my question so I will not continue this discussion with you anymore, and I am supporting red flag against you created by suchmoon in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367331

I might have missed that thread otherwise, thanks for pointing it out @dkbit98.

@Everyone, it appears that user account "Binance Coin" is an impersonator and not an official representative of the Binance Exchange. This troll account is linked to corner, and most likely one of his many alt accounts.

[BitMaxz]

@Everyone, it appears that user account "Binance Coin" is an impersonator and not an official representative of the Binance Exchange. This troll account is linked to corner, and most likely one of his many alt accounts.

Binance never mentions that they have some staff here on the forum or even on their Twitter account or support they don't have staff here on the forum.

And look at this merit he receives https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2625435

It was from Excimer which had lots of negative reviews. So possible this is his alt account trying to be one of the Binance staff until other people can be trapped on his strategy. I'm not saying it's him but he is the only one who gives 1 merit.

[dkbit98]

Binance never mentions that they have some staff here on the forum or even on their Twitter account or support they don't have staff here on the forum.

I personally contacted Binance exchange to confirm that account Binance Coin is impersonating scammer, so please stay tuned for final resolution until they reply to me.
Not sure if he is connected with corner or with some other account but everyone should just ignore him from now on.

[LoyceV]

There are multiple people from Canada, UK, Brazil, and Colombia who reported that Binance seized and frozen their accounts because of Netherlands Tax Investigation

Why does Binance comply to a request from a random country? I would get it if the requests are for people living within the Netherlands, not elsewhere. Binance itself is illegally operating in the Netherlands because they didn't register at DNB.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/q9xy5q/binance_seized_my_life_took_everything_i_have/

From that link:

According to Dutch law, Binance is obliged to cooperate in this matter.

Did they forget Dutch law means nothing outside the Netherlands?

Secondly, Dutch tax authorities won't be emailing like this. That's way too efficient and proper to be true.

Lol. You can always rely on government's inefficiency indeed

For one, the letter which is supposed to be coming from the Dutch authorities, is poorly written.

I wouldn't assume a poorly written letter means it can't be produced by a government.

[bbc.reporter]

If these claims on Binance are true and if the Dutch government has really been behind this, then we can assume that those accounts are involved in money laundering, drugs trafficking and other forms of financing criminality which used Binance as their exchange of choice.

The Netherlands is also one of the biggest receivers of cocaine produced in Colombia. These claims of lifetime savings being seized are only claims until we can confirm that those people behind them are innocent. Why would Binance seize accounts without good reasons?

[LoyceV]

The Netherlands is also one of the biggest receivers of cocaine produced in Colombia.

That's because the Port of Rotterdam is the largest port in Europe. That makes the Netherlands the largest receiver of anything.

[bbc.reporter]

@LoyceV. That makes the argument stronger that the Netherlands is certainly the largest receiver of cocaine from Colombia and maybe also all other forms of narcotics from all over other countries like Mexican methampetamines. I speculate other exchanges should be receiving letters from the government of the Netherlands.