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October 19, 2021, 07:26:20 AM
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Is there anyone running hiveOS on usb stick that lasted over a year already? Mine keep dying on me after three months of use, they started behaving very slow and sluggish and at one point they stop booting up and once I go back to HDD the OS runs better

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October 19, 2021, 09:27:53 AM
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Yeah some are awful, Avoid cheap brands.. I've had many 'Intergral' USB pens die within days.

Buy Sandisk or Kingston brand.. I've had these operational for 2-3 years with very few failures.
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October 19, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
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Is there anyone running hiveOS on usb stick that lasted over a year already? Mine keep dying on me after three months of use, they started behaving very slow and sluggish and at one point they stop booting up and once I go back to HDD the OS runs better

You must deactivate the logs if you are using a usb stick -> look in the FAQ from HiveOS
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October 19, 2021, 12:53:40 PM
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I use Sandisk and have some almost 6 years old now mining everyday.



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October 19, 2021, 12:53:58 PM
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I have a Sandisk running since 2016 and it never complained for quite some years,now I am back with Windows 10 mining because of me having the boards with a friend and not alone anymore and he likes Windows mostly because he is familiar with it.It is the problem of the brand,Kingston also are good,lately Corsair is bringing us the Voyager series which so far I have used it at work and is awesome just like anything else that Corsair produces.

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October 19, 2021, 02:46:34 PM
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Yeah some are awful, Avoid cheap brands.. I've had many 'Intergral' USB pens die within days.

Buy Sandisk or Kingston brand.. I've had these operational for 2-3 years with very few failures.
This is crazy, I have four SanDisk 32gb usb sticks and three are dead on me already, is there something I'm missing here? It seems usb are bad for nonstop operations aka read and write, all this nonsense stopped when I bought cheap SSD drives instead
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October 19, 2021, 03:01:40 PM
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Is there anyone running hiveOS on usb stick that lasted over a year already? Mine keep dying on me after three months of use, they started behaving very slow and sluggish and at one point they stop booting up and once I go back to HDD the OS runs better

USD sticks aren't meant to be used constantly. You should use them to store data. They are not for constantly writing/reading data. For that purpose, just get a SSD. If you can't afford an SSD, get an HDD. There are some ultra durable SD cards but I don't recommend them neither because you can get bigger faster multiple SSD's for the same price.

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October 19, 2021, 03:09:35 PM
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USD sticks aren't meant to be used constantly. You should use them to store data. They are not for constantly writing/reading data. For that purpose, just get a SSD. If you can't afford an SSD, get an HDD. There are some ultra durable SD cards but I don't recommend them neither because you can get bigger faster multiple SSD's for the same price.

Writing is bad, actually erasing is bad. If you never have to erase it will last longer. SSDs have the same issue
but to a much lesser degree because they use higher quality flash memory. Frequently overwritten data should
use a RAM drive or a mechanical HDD.

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October 19, 2021, 03:23:13 PM
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USD sticks aren't meant to be used constantly. You should use them to store data. They are not for constantly writing/reading data. For that purpose, just get a SSD. If you can't afford an SSD, get an HDD. There are some ultra durable SD cards but I don't recommend them neither because you can get bigger faster multiple SSD's for the same price.

Writing is bad, actually erasing is bad. If you never have to erase it will last longer. SSDs have the same issue
but to a much lesser degree because they use higher quality flash memory. Frequently overwritten data should
use a RAM drive or a mechanical HDD.

HDD's might cause performance issues though. Assuming that you mine with GPU's here, you still don't do that much write/reads on the disk anyway. (I mean it is still much more than a USB stick can handle)

If you can't read and send the data in time, practically you will get a lower hashrate.

Most of the time an HDD will be enough but I just don't like them making noise and shit. Once you get an SSD, there isn't really turning back. They are cheap nowadays too.

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October 19, 2021, 03:26:15 PM
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USD sticks aren't meant to be used constantly. You should use them to store data. They are not for constantly writing/reading data. For that purpose, just get a SSD. If you can't afford an SSD, get an HDD. There are some ultra durable SD cards but I don't recommend them neither because you can get bigger faster multiple SSD's for the same price.

Writing is bad, actually erasing is bad. If you never have to erase it will last longer. SSDs have the same issue
but to a much lesser degree because they use higher quality flash memory. Frequently overwritten data should
use a RAM drive or a mechanical HDD.

HDD's might cause performance issues though. Assuming that you mine with GPU's here, you still don't do that much write/reads on the disk anyway. (I mean it is still much more than a USB stick can handle)

If you can't read and send the data in time, practically you will get a lower hashrate.

Most of the time an HDD will be enough but I just don't like them making noise and shit. Once you get an SSD, there isn't really turning back. They are cheap nowadays too.
Na usb stick read and write is slower than HDD with rpm7200 mate, if you getting low hashrate pls check your GPU settings not the HDD, I play online games on HDD and my monitor as low ms, with fast internet connection you won't have any problems, my rigs with HDD get the exact MH I'm supposed to get from any graphic cards

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October 19, 2021, 03:30:51 PM
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Na usb stick read and write is slower than HDD with rpm7200 mate, if you getting low hashrate pls check your GPU settings not the HDD, I play online games on HDD and my monitor as low ms, with fast internet connection you won't have any problems, my rigs with HDD get the exact MH I'm supposed to get from any graphic cards

I didn't say USD sticks are faster than HDD's. Re-read my post. I know they are slow. They are not suitable for anything other than storing data.

I also said most of the time HDD's will get the job done but if you do multiple tasks on the same computer (like mining + gaming) that HDD will just give up. They also make disgusting noises. SSD's are just overall a much better choice.

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October 19, 2021, 07:10:01 PM
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Na usb stick read and write is slower than HDD with rpm7200 mate, if you getting low hashrate pls check your GPU settings not the HDD, I play online games on HDD and my monitor as low ms, with fast internet connection you won't have any problems, my rigs with HDD get the exact MH I'm supposed to get from any graphic cards

I didn't say USD sticks are faster than HDD's. Re-read my post. I know they are slow. They are not suitable for anything other than storing data.

I also said most of the time HDD's will get the job done but if you do multiple tasks on the same computer (like mining + gaming) that HDD will just give up. They also make disgusting noises. SSD's are just overall a much better choice.
Well that's a new one, can you really enjoy your gaming while mining without the PC freezing on you? So hilarious lol unless you find a way to use 20% of the GPU power to mine and leave the rest for gaming just like how one can mine ETH + Ergo on LHR cards today

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October 20, 2021, 05:38:25 AM
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Na usb stick read and write is slower than HDD with rpm7200 mate, if you getting low hashrate pls check your GPU settings not the HDD, I play online games on HDD and my monitor as low ms, with fast internet connection you won't have any problems, my rigs with HDD get the exact MH I'm supposed to get from any graphic cards

I didn't say USD sticks are faster than HDD's. Re-read my post. I know they are slow. They are not suitable for anything other than storing data.

I also said most of the time HDD's will get the job done but if you do multiple tasks on the same computer (like mining + gaming) that HDD will just give up. They also make disgusting noises. SSD's are just overall a much better choice.
Well that's a new one, can you really enjoy your gaming while mining without the PC freezing on you? So hilarious lol unless you find a way to use 20% of the GPU power to mine and leave the rest for gaming just like how one can mine ETH + Ergo on LHR cards today

The problem with your thinking is, you assume everybody has only 1 GPU on their PC's. Wake the fuck up. Some people can have multiple GPU's on their PC's. It is 2021 now.

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October 20, 2021, 08:48:34 AM
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HiveOS recommend deactivate logs if you using usb flashdrive. If not, the usb flashdrive will die very fast.
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October 20, 2021, 11:52:08 AM
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Is there anyone running hiveOS on usb stick that lasted over a year already? Mine keep dying on me after three months of use, they started behaving very slow and sluggish and at one point they stop booting up and once I go back to HDD the OS runs better
The hard drive is actually faster and more reliable. I use old 80GB Sata hard drives that are 15 years old. With some USB flash drives, I also had no luck and they broke, but I did not even try to look for the causes of breakdowns.
A USB flash drive consumes less power, but is not as reliable as a hard drive.

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October 20, 2021, 05:36:16 PM
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Right, keep killing your usb over and over, those who are complaining about death of usb in a very short time are those that failed to deactivate log, this was supposed to reduce stress on the usb drive that's why hiveOS Dev said users must deactivate log

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October 21, 2021, 02:39:35 AM
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Yeah if you got some old HDD then use those instead of USB thumb drives. I’ve had issues also. Most common one is it get corrupted and you just need to reformat and load the ISO again and it’ll work again for a few weeks/months until it either gets corrupted again or dies completely.

I got fed up that I just took the old old HDD from my basement and never had any issues. The HDD uses maybe a few watts more power but it’ll be dead reliable in the long run. Every motherboard has SATA and every PSU has it also so you won’t get issues getting it working unless you maybe are using an old IDE hard drive from 1995.
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October 21, 2021, 06:12:14 AM
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yes guys i would recomend using ssd rather than usb stick, and ssd getting cheaper anyway after m2 nvme taking the place buy 120/128 gb ssd is good rather installing on usb stick

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October 21, 2021, 12:35:23 PM
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yes guys i would recomend using ssd rather than usb stick, and ssd getting cheaper anyway after m2 nvme taking the place buy 120/128 gb ssd is good rather installing on usb stick
ssd disk increases the boot speed of windows. For Linux systems, the boot time of the operating system with ssd and hdd is the same, or the difference is very small.
Why overpay for something that you can buy very cheap.
Used hard drives can be bought in bulk at very competitive prices.

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October 21, 2021, 12:41:42 PM
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yes guys i would recomend using ssd rather than usb stick, and ssd getting cheaper anyway after m2 nvme taking the place buy 120/128 gb ssd is good rather installing on usb stick
ssd disk increases the boot speed of windows. For Linux systems, the boot time of the operating system with ssd and hdd is the same, or the difference is very small.
Why overpay for something that you can buy very cheap.
Used hard drives can be bought in bulk at very competitive prices.

I just ordered 10 120gb ssds for 219 usd. I had a few coupons so they cost me 160 at 16 a drive they are worth it.

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