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Consumerism is at a level where we are buying the same stuff with different names, to make people buy old stuff would be a big problem in this day and age. Sure Cuba is poor so that is why they are using old cars and all that cliche stuff to show why poverty means using circulate economy for some people, but seriously, what is the big difference between iphone 12 and iphone 13? We are getting the brand new one though aren't we? I mean not me or you personally, I use a phone that came out in 2014, so I have been doing fine, maybe I will get a new one eventually, but it will be a mid segment low price one once again and not the latest one.
However there are enough people that buy the brand new one as well, it is quite expensive and for some reason all over the world we get to see so many new iphone 13's get sold as soon as it comes out. Which is a proof that if you can't convince people to not buy the brand new one each time it comes out, then you can't make circular economy work neither.
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I think the systems implemented in the circular economy are very good because they can be an alternative to the best economy because with this circular economy we can use human resources for as long as possible, extracting maximum value from them as they are used, and then recovering and recreating products and materials to the ultimate level. This will help the circular economy. become strong and it will grow well for our entire national economy, I am sure. However it has some problems to solve such as the products that come out are difficult to sell and it will be one of the biggest hurdles of the economy.
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The circular economy is a model of production and consumption, which involves sharing, leasing, reusing, repairing, refurbishing and recycling existing materials and products as long as possible. In this way, the life cycle of products is extended.
You agree or not, we are going to have complete circular economy in near future because all the resources we are using right now might be diminishing in its supply hence we need to adapt renewable energy resources so that we could sustain among increasing demands in our daily life. I believe there should be more innovations are needed to make use of our wastes effectively so that we could sustain against demands. If everything could be recycled then we can easily get into circular economically but as of now we are having less technology for recycling and for green and renewable energy. So, we must need to wait for a while before getting into a complete circular economy. I agree, this is the future of the economy, while the world is full of resources we cannot continue with this rampant consumption, this does not means that we are going to need to limit ourselves when it comes to what we buy it just means that the products we will buy in the future will be of higher quality than the ones we have, also the economy follows the direction its main form of money follows, people want to use their fiat because they know they lose purchasing power if they do not, this creates the incentive to spend your money in low quality items, but with a currency like bitcoin the opposite will happen and businesses will have to offer products of better quality.
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Such idealism is greatly needed and appreciated but the only problem is that people will always look into quality. And obviously, it isn't easy to trust such products since eventually, they tend to degrade im quality. The only people who would be willing to take such risks are the people who badly need it and have no other choice (which us a good thing since it can help people in need while reducing waste) but the thing about this is that even with cheap prices, if it does not work well it will spread bad reviews and would make even the less fortunate hesitant to buy it and instead try harder to opt for brand new items regardless of price.
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October 28, 2021, 02:35:48 AM |
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From my point of there, people and some different countries are doing the circular economy work and likely in some parts of the world in the country are still in its process and the other parts have a long way to go or in short, has not progressed in the living of life cycle. It is the same with people who have different points of view in life. Different people have different perspectives and different ways of life as the way they see, the way they fo economy work or the life cycle. Different brands are working with sustainability connected to economy work, brands that I like Adidas Nike H&M Uniqlo While here is one of the many you can know are here on my research https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakemorgan/2020/02/24/11-fashion-companies-leading-the-way-in-sustainability/?sh=140be5d26dba Not the brands that I know are provided in the link but still from what I see let's say its a 50 50 work. ------------ This is one of the things I could share to prove that the circular economy is working and at its progress to change the world.
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October 28, 2021, 11:21:40 AM |
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some of circular economy its work like an business with then have also and definition and benefits are done some of ecosystems businesses barriers ,, are all managed by circular economy....
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October 28, 2021, 12:39:36 PM |
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there are enough people that buy the brand new one as well, it is quite expensive and for some reason all over the world we get to see so many new iphone 13's get sold as soon as it comes out. Which is a proof that if you can't convince people to not buy the brand new one each time it comes out, then you can't make circular economy work neither.
I agree that we cannot convince most people for re-using all day to day things which is specifically true for the case of electronic goods; people love to use the latest versions for social status reasons. If we go this way then I guess we must need to first convince electronic good manufactured for creating more sustainable model which may last for at least 3 to 5 years which again will help people not to go for latest versions on yearly basis (in between manufactures must stop releasing yearly new versions). Overall, when most people agree and work for re-using then only circular economy will be possible.
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October 28, 2021, 04:12:29 PM |
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there are enough people that buy the brand new one as well, it is quite expensive and for some reason all over the world we get to see so many new iphone 13's get sold as soon as it comes out. Which is a proof that if you can't convince people to not buy the brand new one each time it comes out, then you can't make circular economy work neither.
I agree that we cannot convince most people for re-using all day to day things which is specifically true for the case of electronic goods; people love to use the latest versions for social status reasons. If we go this way then I guess we must need to first convince electronic good manufactured for creating more sustainable model which may last for at least 3 to 5 years which again will help people not to go for latest versions on yearly basis (in between manufactures must stop releasing yearly new versions). Overall, when most people agree and work for re-using then only circular economy will be possible. I really think it's hard for a circular economy to work since most of the people nowadays are more on brand new and more on high technology gadgets that most manufacturers will have a new release every year. It could be very less likely to work particularly for those people who have enough money to buy such new things. However, for poor people, circular economy does work all the time since poor people don't have any choices either. But honestly, if they will be given money to buy new things, they would not sustain on using old but reusable things. I guess everyone wish to have brand news all the time. And that circular economy will find it hard to work even for those who are less fortunate people.
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October 28, 2021, 05:05:04 PM |
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there are enough people that buy the brand new one as well, it is quite expensive and for some reason all over the world we get to see so many new iphone 13's get sold as soon as it comes out. Which is a proof that if you can't convince people to not buy the brand new one each time it comes out, then you can't make circular economy work neither.
I agree that we cannot convince most people for re-using all day to day things which is specifically true for the case of electronic goods; people love to use the latest versions for social status reasons. If we go this way then I guess we must need to first convince electronic good manufactured for creating more sustainable model which may last for at least 3 to 5 years which again will help people not to go for latest versions on yearly basis (in between manufactures must stop releasing yearly new versions). Overall, when most people agree and work for re-using then only circular economy will be possible. They should also not end support for old tech like you see with certain software companies. The idea that everyone must "evolve" together to something new and leave the old behind is contributing to the problem. You will be surprised what people can do with the old if you allow & encourage them to make it better and useful
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October 30, 2021, 04:26:42 PM |
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there are enough people that buy the brand new one as well, it is quite expensive and for some reason all over the world we get to see so many new iphone 13's get sold as soon as it comes out. Which is a proof that if you can't convince people to not buy the brand new one each time it comes out, then you can't make circular economy work neither.
I agree that we cannot convince most people for re-using all day to day things which is specifically true for the case of electronic goods; people love to use the latest versions for social status reasons. If we go this way then I guess we must need to first convince electronic good manufactured for creating more sustainable model which may last for at least 3 to 5 years which again will help people not to go for latest versions on yearly basis (in between manufactures must stop releasing yearly new versions). Overall, when most people agree and work for re-using then only circular economy will be possible. I agree that it is difficult to do this now as the tendency is to always think that the latest gadget is the best simply because it is the latest, however at some point we are going to hit the limit of what we can do with the resources we have available and this means that a change in the consumption culture will need to happen, that does not mean buying a smartphone every 10 years or only having a pair of shoes, by just extending the time we use our current devices by a year or two it will greatly help to diminish our current consumption.
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October 30, 2021, 05:51:00 PM |
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We need more details on how it is going to work on practice, because as far as I know the products we consume are already recyclable. Shoes, clothes, accessories, furniture... Everything can be reused if the correct procedure is used when dealing with the waste coming from our houses. The problem is that not every areas are organized and equipped to deal with the waste properly, so much of that isn't reused. I'm not sure if this circular economy means that, but I have already seen some extremist people who only use old stuff to wear themselves and to furnish their houses. Once they get tired of something, they go to a secondhand shop and exchange their old goods for another old goods. If that is what you really mean by circular economy I think it's terrible, because this way people will live precariously and there won't be incentive for the development of new models and technologies that could improve our life quality on long run. But I fully agree this issue should be addressed: Also part of this model is planned obsolescence, when a product has been designed to have a limited lifespan to encourage consumers to buy it again. The European Parliament has called for measures to tackle this practice. Planned obsolescence is a shame for companies and are actually a discreet scam practice.
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But I fully agree this issue should be addressed: Also part of this model is planned obsolescence, when a product has been designed to have a limited lifespan to encourage consumers to buy it again. The European Parliament has called for measures to tackle this practice. Planned obsolescence is a shame for companies and are actually a discreet scam practice. It is going to be very difficult to address the problem of planned obsolescence, after all companies will always be able to diminish the quality of materials or the design to reduce the lifespan of a product and hide themselves behind that, also some products already include how much usage you can expect out of them so if a person buys an inferior product instead of one that will last longer they can always argue this was what the client wanted.
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