Scammed by Birb bounty campagin

[speedforce]

Scam by Birb Bounty Campaign, watering down from 300K tokens to 5k tokens only.

Bounty Thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5342523.0
Bounty Allocation : 1M token, 30% for Signature means 300k Tokens



Its 4 week works, if i didnt wrong its from early June to 14 July. I works for only for the last week, they ask us to provide post as proof of our work.
This my proof of work, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5342523.msg57428833#msg57428833.

This the never updated spreadsheet since the beginning, the bounty manager said they keeps the spreadsheet calculation offline to avoid "cheaters thing they got paid", a nonsense argument.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meLeI13HG02wq6eAXGHArG2LPrs8NtpWYVcS1VsMivo/edit#gid=0

Before we can get paid, they ask us for some KYC too, its a selfie KYC with "Birb Bounty" sentence on the paper. They said its only verification purpose, i hope they keep this one as truth.


We got delayed because the team was "really" busy from 14 July to this day, they always make the payment in batch so hard for us to trackdown the calculation, until now they never publish the spreadsheet, i got kicked because keep asking about it.

This is just the post minutes ago, they finally paid off the signature participant and the last of twitter participant, guest what? From the 300K tokens, its goes to 5830 only, and theres also portion of the 6 twitter participant, they really wattering down our reward. I got only 176 Birb, also i seen many other participant got same number when they provide more weeks of work. The problem is i got kicked by questioning the updated and calculated spreadsheet, i just feel like they just throw a random number to us.
Here is the transaction ID:
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xb1932a99e62838fa7de2959e1f18227dfbea2a31da1418df69836f0aec7d0db3

*Updated : I just know theres ODS files on its post, here i upload it https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B2ajthZaAfpLNhiziOJSW39pnyiSd1YU/view?usp=sharing
Its 22 Participant, 123 Stakes, And only 2706 BIRB Rewards Pools. From the promised pools 300K BIRB, what a shameful.

Conclusion : They really wattering down the rewards (From 300.000 BIRB to 2706 BIRB ONLY) and locked the bounty group for complaints.

Another Fishy thing about its Project. If someone provide liquidity BIRB/BNB on the pancake swap, they can drain the amount of the birb on the pools, so your LP stake value would be decreased every day!
Proof :

August 8 LP Value: $10.28

Today LP Value: $1.79


Its not impermanent loss, its permanent loss since the Birb pools are drained 5% daily. Seems its project like to drained pools, both bounty reward and liquidity.

*update : I add flag here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2519248;page=iflags. I dont know is it right type of Flag or not, but i hope its the right flag for this kind of issue.

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[nutildah]

Yeah I mean it looks like utter crap all the way around, kind of surprised you admitted to wasting your time on it.

The token's price is currently $0.13, and you got 176, so that's $22.88, or $2.28 per post.

Do you honestly believe your posts are worth more than that?

Agree, many altcoin have a huge chance to pump next bull season,  keep averaging down investment and soon we will receive a huge reward for doing that.

I don't.

[Jawhead999]

This bounties really fucked up, they didn't updated the stakes in old bounty spreadsheet I don't have any idea how can they only pay 22 signature participants from 56 users (even it's not really 56 since there's a duplicate list). He only listed the eligible user, not all... so the rest 34 users is still questioned whether they're quit the bounty, not using the signature, not fulfill the requirement post, not submit KYC etc.

300.000 token to 2706 token, he still owed 297294 token. Even if they don't want to pay on their token value, he still need to pay on USD value. The bounty distribution for Signature campaign is 30% from $50.000 it's $15.000, Bird token now worth $0.14. $15.000/$0.14 it's 107142 token. 107143 - 2706 = 104437, he still owed 104437 token in USD value.

The worse thing is the bounty hunters. already send their KYC but they still got scammed...
[1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meLeI13HG02wq6eAXGHArG2LPrs8NtpWYVcS1VsMivo/edit#gid=0

[Silver80]

Do you honestly believe your posts are worth more than that?

if you feel it's inappropriate for posts to be paid like that, try to imagine that members following 4 weak are paid only 88 coins while those who follow a little, what's strange are they pay an airdrop per 333 participants, and with such an allocation of 30% for Twitter they pay more here I show the results of the payment  Twitter.

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x57f128207c1ad361c477094d5b880e4ec5b6b79d1e2aa90994f1f45400ae32ed

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xedceb342093ebb846a4f80c0c30bc7855ebec88c990c92d574758101b3e2cb16

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xae89af54ddd9949810d8f417b6f7b0aba667b425712f0ecc1a96c248ffacc2bf

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x617c371fa7e302606e40b8496603961e70ef6e16758d28705f669478826d84cf

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x4892cd9b8f147544b5c64d51bf672406786a71bb92d52d38a7c85df03241fb6f

and 6 which is called OP, even though they allocate the same 30% and strangely few follow the signature but the pay is messed up.

[Coin_trader]

Do you honestly believe your posts are worth more than that?

if you feel it's inappropriate for posts to be paid like that, try to imagine that members following 4 weak are paid only 88 coins while those who follow a little, what's strange are they pay an airdrop per 333 participants, and with such an allocation of 30% for Twitter they pay more here I show the results of the payment  Twitter.

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x57f128207c1ad361c477094d5b880e4ec5b6b79d1e2aa90994f1f45400ae32ed

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xedceb342093ebb846a4f80c0c30bc7855ebec88c990c92d574758101b3e2cb16

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xae89af54ddd9949810d8f417b6f7b0aba667b425712f0ecc1a96c248ffacc2bf

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x617c371fa7e302606e40b8496603961e70ef6e16758d28705f669478826d84cf

https://bscscan.com/tx/0x4892cd9b8f147544b5c64d51bf672406786a71bb92d52d38a7c85df03241fb6f

and 6 which is called OP, even though they allocate the same 30% and strangely few follow the signature but the pay is messed up.

You should check  number 3 on General rules of the campaign. It stated that token allocation might vary depends on the number of participants that will join on each campaign. Do you guys read generals before joining or not?

Besides that, Atleast the team paid you for your compared to tons of bounty campaign that running away after months of free bounty campaign.

[nutildah]

Do you honestly believe your posts are worth more than that?

if you feel it's inappropriate for posts to be paid like that, try to imagine that members following 4 weak are paid only 88 coins while those who follow a little, what's strange are they pay an airdrop per 333 participants, and with such an allocation of 30% for Twitter they pay more here I show the results of the payment  Twitter.

Yeah maybe I was a bit harsh in my original assessment. And I don't think its cool for projects to back out of what they had agreed to or promised to bounty hunters. But if part of that agreement is not paying for low-quality work then I don't blame them.

Really, in order for anyone to say what is or isn't a "scam," we need evidence that some kind of contract was violated. Kind of goes for all allegations against projects for not paying out bounty hunters.

[mindrust]

Even the thread is self moderated. Another big red flag. When you see a self-mod campaign thread, you just don't join/post in them. Somebody already gave the camp account a red trust rating but a scam flag would also make sense in this situation. OP you should create a flag.

[fortunecrypto]

Even from the start, they were hiding something and by making their thread moderated they don't want to question their project and how they run their campaign, I never joined a bounty campaign with moderated thread people should not it's clear  that have hiding agenda, they can do that on their announcement to avoid spamming but not on their bounty thread, they deserve red flag for scamming their bounty participants

[Rikafip]

Maybe I am missing something here, but wasn't initial bounty pool 1,000,000 BIRB and not 300,000?, like @speedforce claims?

You should check  number 3 on General rules of the campaign. It stated that token allocation might vary depends on the number of participants that will join on each campaign. Do you guys read generals before joining or not?

While it's true that they reserved the right to adjust bounty pool, don't you think its a little bit too drastic, to lower it from 1 million/300k ~5k? If we take that 300k number, that's like 98% decrease. I am fully aware of the fact that majority of work done by bounty hunters is subpar, but that's an overkill and BIRB team has an obvious intention to scam bounty hunters, which in the end they did.

[AhmadM]

Before we can get paid, they ask us for some KYC too, its a selfie KYC with "Birb Bounty" sentence on the paper. They said its only verification purpose, i hope they keep this one as truth.

In the first place, they didn't mention anything about kyc things on their campaign's terms. Whether its necessary or not for hunters to perform kyc in order to join the campaign, I think it wasn't totally surprised if they would charge hunters to do so once the campaign ended.

Maybe I am missing something here, but wasn't initial bounty pool 1,000,000 BIRB and not 300,000?, like @speedforce claims?

300k was the allocation for signature which is 30% of the initial rewards pool (1M tokens, as you could see in the first picture above)

[FatFork]

Maybe I am missing something here, but wasn't initial bounty pool 1,000,000 BIRB and not 300,000?, like @speedforce claims?

You should check  number 3 on General rules of the campaign. It stated that token allocation might vary depends on the number of participants that will join on each campaign. Do you guys read generals before joining or not?

While it's true that they reserved the right to adjust bounty pool, don't you think its a little bit too drastic, to lower it from 1 million/300k ~5k? If we take that 300k number, that's like 98% decrease. I am fully aware of the fact that majority of work done by bounty hunters is subpar, but that's an overkill and BIRB team has an obvious intention to scam bounty hunters, which in the end they did.

Yes, lowering the token allocation for signature bounty from 300k to ~ 5k is rather drastic. They shouldn't even need to specify the total bounty token allocation at all if that was their intention from the start. I find this behavior very deceptive and borderline scammy.

[speedforce]

Do you honestly believe your posts are worth more than that?

if you feel it's inappropriate for posts to be paid like that, try to imagine that members following 4 weak are paid only 88 coins while those who follow a little, what's strange are they pay an airdrop per 333 participants, and with such an allocation of 30% for Twitter they pay more.

I Agree 88 BIRB for 4Weeks full signature participated is a shamelesss payoff, we absolutely underpaid, moreover the bounty isnt have same payment mechanism like fixed payrate on Economics service, we work based on the pool share, the problem is our pool drained so hard, its makes us underpaid, even compared to Airdrop which have NO KYC and work only once.
If u looks it deeper, the Twitter pools also decreased from 300K tokens to about 100K tokens, but its arguable since the twitter participant possibly eliminated by KYC or another else that not published by the team yet.

You should check  number 3 on General rules of the campaign. It stated that token allocation might vary depends on the number of participants that will join on each campaign. Do you guys read generals before joining or not?

While it's true that they reserved the right to adjust bounty pool, don't you think its a little bit too drastic, to lower it from 1 million/300k ~5k? If we take that 300k number, that's like 98% decrease. I am fully aware of the fact that majority of work done by bounty hunters is subpar, but that's an overkill and BIRB team has an obvious intention to scam bounty hunters, which in the end they did.

Yes, lowering the token allocation for signature bounty from 300k to ~ 5k is rather drastic. They shouldn't even need to specify the total bounty token allocation at all if that was their intention from the start. I find this behavior very deceptive and borderline scammy.

The Fact that its only 2706 BIRB makes me more heartbroken, its more than 99% decreased.

The worse thing is the bounty hunters. already send their KYC but they still got scammed...

Agreed, i hope they atleast deleted the document, it will make it worse if its leaked in the future.

[Rikafip]

Maybe I am missing something here, but wasn't initial bounty pool 1,000,000 BIRB and not 300,000?, like @speedforce claims?

300k was the allocation for signature which is 30% of the initial rewards pool (1M tokens, as you could see in the first picture above)

Ah I see, I knew I was missing something there. Did participants in other parts of bounty campaign get their token, or it was the same scenario as with signature campaign participants?

In the first place, they didn't mention anything about kyc things on their campaign's terms. Whether its necessary or not for hunters to perform kyc in order to join the campaign, I think it wasn't totally surprised if they would charge hunters to do so once the campaign ended.

Yep, changing rules and introducing KYC is standard practice of majority of bounty campaigns as their goal is to send as less tokens as possible, and KYC is one of the best ways to eliminate bounty hunters, all under pretension of wanting to eliminate the scammers.

[ryzaadit]

Yep, changing rules and introducing KYC is standard practice of majority of bounty campaigns as their goal is to send as less tokens as possible, and KYC is one of the best ways to eliminate bounty hunters, all under pretension of wanting to eliminate the scammers.

Can understand this.

However, there is no mention of anything in "General Rules" the project can change any rules or anything during the bounty just like other projects did so they can easily ask user KYC or reduce token. So basically, they broke their own bounty since there is no rules project can change.

[Rikafip]

However, there is no mention of anything in "General Rules" the project can change any rules or anything during the bounty just like other projects did so they can easily ask user KYC or reduce token. So basically, they broke their own bounty since there is no rules project can change.

True. All these altcoin projects are perfectly aware of the fact that bounty hunters can't do much damage to them, so they simply don't care about the aftermath of such decisions. Worst of all, all these bounty hunters that got screwed will join another bounty campaign, that will probably do the same thing to them like these BIRB guys. Rinse and repeat.

[speedforce]

In the first place, they didn't mention anything about kyc things on their campaign's terms. Whether its necessary or not for hunters to perform kyc in order to join the campaign, I think it wasn't totally surprised if they would charge hunters to do so once the campaign ended.

Yep, changing rules and introducing KYC is standard practice of majority of bounty campaigns as their goal is to send as less tokens as possible, and KYC is one of the best ways to eliminate bounty hunters, all under pretension of wanting to eliminate the scammers.

Reducing the pools are not really a problem if its drop are reasonable and communicated with participant before distribution (Example 10% Allocation of Signature goes to Twitter because of .... ), but this one is locking Bounty group and reducing 99% of its pool which cant be accepted at all.

[aioc]

In the first place, they didn't mention anything about kyc things on their campaign's terms. Whether its necessary or not for hunters to perform kyc in order to join the campaign, I think it wasn't totally surprised if they would charge hunters to do so once the campaign ended.

Yep, changing rules and introducing KYC is standard practice of majority of bounty campaigns as their goal is to send as less tokens as possible, and KYC is one of the best ways to eliminate bounty hunters, all under pretension of wanting to eliminate the scammers.

Reducing the pools are not really a problem if its drop are reasonable and communicated with participant before distribution (Example 10% of Signature goes to Twitter because of .... ), but this one is locking Bounty group and reducing 99% of its pool which cant be accepted at all.

It's unacceptable the drop is so huge that bounty hunters works are wasted, it's right to call them scammers and deserve a red trust and flag they don't have respect for bounty hunters I don't expect them to go down here to defend their case, bounty hunters should look for bounty manager that will protect their cause if the bounty manager is part of the team you better think twice before joining.

[speedforce]

I add flag here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2519248;page=iflags. I dont know is it right type of Flag or not, but i hope its the right flag for this kind of issue.

[coin-investor]

I add flag here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2519248;page=iflags. I dont know is it right type of Flag or not, but i hope its the right flag for this kind of issue.

I supported the flag they deserve it, it's not easy to work promoting a project you need time and effort and electric cost and in return, you'll get pennies or nothing from you two to three months work, bounty hunters joined the campaign because of the expected rewards that they are going to get and only to get disappointed because they are getting pennies or nothing.