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October 26, 2021, 06:04:59 PM
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Hi Bitcointalk community,

I was wondering if I should continue to buy non-LHR RTX 3070 or look at the cheapest alternative which is buying LHR RTX 3070 to mine ETH?

I am not interested to do dual mining with T-Rex miner, I only want to mine the more profitable proof of work coin which is ETH like always.

I have read here and there that even if lolMiner or other mining softwares offer unlock features for LHR RTX 3000 series to mine ETH, it doesn't unlock 100% the LHR and it's often not stable.

Obviously what makes me hesitate is that non-LHR RTX3070 are almost double the price of the LHR RTX3070.

If anybody has a firsthand experience on that I would appreciate!

Thank you.

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October 27, 2021, 03:51:24 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

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October 28, 2021, 03:10:04 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.

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October 29, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.


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October 29, 2021, 02:43:23 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.



I think it can be a good thing the Ravencoin's halving, if the price goes up it can easily compensate the halving.

All the other proof of work blockchains minable with GPUs are very small blockchains compared to Ethereum blockchain. When ETH will be proof of stake you will see all the hash rate get distributed and moving regularly from one PoW coin to the other but yeah I'm pretty sure the profit will never be as good as now.

My bro is a software engineer working for a DeFi company and he explained to me lately the latest developments in the Ethereum world and frankly these PoW coins like Ergo, Ravencoin etc. are simply not in the train in terms of future technology. Almost everything is happening on Ethereum blockchain (lately it's the Layer 2 boom https://l2beat.com/), the PoW coins are simple investment vehicles. Even Ergo doesn't have a lot of resources for coders, the vast majority of developers are on Ethereum.


Cardano coming soon will be interesting to follow because it will be possible to have your own blockchain... let's see. Pretty amazing concept that I don't understand all the details for sure hehe.


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October 31, 2021, 11:54:34 AM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.



I think it can be a good thing the Ravencoin's halving, if the price goes up it can easily compensate the halving.

All the other proof of work blockchains minable with GPUs are very small blockchains compared to Ethereum blockchain. When ETH will be proof of stake you will see all the hash rate get distributed and moving regularly from one PoW coin to the other but yeah I'm pretty sure the profit will never be as good as now.

My bro is a software engineer working for a DeFi company and he explained to me lately the latest developments in the Ethereum world and frankly these PoW coins like Ergo, Ravencoin etc. are simply not in the train in terms of future technology. Almost everything is happening on Ethereum blockchain (lately it's the Layer 2 boom https://l2beat.com/), the PoW coins are simple investment vehicles. Even Ergo doesn't have a lot of resources for coders, the vast majority of developers are on Ethereum.


Cardano coming soon will be interesting to follow because it will be possible to have your own blockchain... let's see. Pretty amazing concept that I don't understand all the details for sure hehe.
How many Ravencoins have you bought now to earn 100% profit in a few months?
I think you agree that "thinking" and "doing" are very different Smiley
I don't think PoW coins will disappear. Monero will be relevant for a long time.
But the further situation with video cards after Ethereum mining is very interesting to everyone.

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October 31, 2021, 10:24:55 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.



I think it can be a good thing the Ravencoin's halving, if the price goes up it can easily compensate the halving.

All the other proof of work blockchains minable with GPUs are very small blockchains compared to Ethereum blockchain. When ETH will be proof of stake you will see all the hash rate get distributed and moving regularly from one PoW coin to the other but yeah I'm pretty sure the profit will never be as good as now.

My bro is a software engineer working for a DeFi company and he explained to me lately the latest developments in the Ethereum world and frankly these PoW coins like Ergo, Ravencoin etc. are simply not in the train in terms of future technology. Almost everything is happening on Ethereum blockchain (lately it's the Layer 2 boom https://l2beat.com/), the PoW coins are simple investment vehicles. Even Ergo doesn't have a lot of resources for coders, the vast majority of developers are on Ethereum.


Cardano coming soon will be interesting to follow because it will be possible to have your own blockchain... let's see. Pretty amazing concept that I don't understand all the details for sure hehe.
How many Ravencoins have you bought now to earn 100% profit in a few months?
I think you agree that "thinking" and "doing" are very different Smiley
I don't think PoW coins will disappear. Monero will be relevant for a long time.
But the further situation with video cards after Ethereum mining is very interesting to everyone.


I do think GPU crypto mining will remain for many more years but the profit will drastically drop for sure and from now I can tell without a doubt the future is Ethereum.

Maybe Cardano will become a competitor and maybe Ethereum will encounter challenges but if you analyze what is actually going on under the hood in the crypto world, I mean the latest and most exciting developments, Ethereum blockchain is almost always involved!!!

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November 03, 2021, 04:26:27 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.



I think it can be a good thing the Ravencoin's halving, if the price goes up it can easily compensate the halving.

All the other proof of work blockchains minable with GPUs are very small blockchains compared to Ethereum blockchain. When ETH will be proof of stake you will see all the hash rate get distributed and moving regularly from one PoW coin to the other but yeah I'm pretty sure the profit will never be as good as now.

My bro is a software engineer working for a DeFi company and he explained to me lately the latest developments in the Ethereum world and frankly these PoW coins like Ergo, Ravencoin etc. are simply not in the train in terms of future technology. Almost everything is happening on Ethereum blockchain (lately it's the Layer 2 boom https://l2beat.com/), the PoW coins are simple investment vehicles. Even Ergo doesn't have a lot of resources for coders, the vast majority of developers are on Ethereum.


Cardano coming soon will be interesting to follow because it will be possible to have your own blockchain... let's see. Pretty amazing concept that I don't understand all the details for sure hehe.
How many Ravencoins have you bought now to earn 100% profit in a few months?
I think you agree that "thinking" and "doing" are very different Smiley
I don't think PoW coins will disappear. Monero will be relevant for a long time.
But the further situation with video cards after Ethereum mining is very interesting to everyone.


I do think GPU crypto mining will remain for many more years but the profit will drastically drop for sure and from now I can tell without a doubt the future is Ethereum.

Maybe Cardano will become a competitor and maybe Ethereum will encounter challenges but if you analyze what is actually going on under the hood in the crypto world, I mean the latest and most exciting developments, Ethereum blockchain is almost always involved!!!
My biggest mistake in mining is listening to different predictions Smiley
There are a lot of coins, so you will have to spend more time researching and looking for new projects, because in recent years, Ethereum mining has made us lazy.
But there is still no exact information about the end of Ethereum mining.

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November 03, 2021, 07:35:00 PM
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I tried dual mining with ETH and for me it's just a nogo.

The hashrate I get using this "technique" is awful on ETH and on the other algo /coin

I'm using 3060 LHR.

Finally I prefer to stay full on RVN or other coin at full potential ofnthe card.

Btw I have the impression that mining ETH is a slow process compared to RVN for eg...?
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I tried dual mining with ETH and for me it's just a nogo.

The hashrate I get using this "technique" is awful on ETH and on the other algo /coin

I'm using 3060 LHR.

Finally I prefer to stay full on RVN or other coin at full potential ofnthe card.

Btw I have the impression that mining ETH is a slow process compared to RVN for eg...?
Can't say much about 3060s cos I don't use the card at all but if you are using 3070ti LHR they are still better at Ethereum than ravencoin because they can do 58mh right now on ETH at less watt compare to mining ravencoin unless you have free electricity of course

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For me NBminer has done a really good job in unlocking near the 70-72% of all the full power of the LHR cards which it is awesome.However the real problem with these cards is that they still have a reduced hashrate and a really huge power consumption compared to non-LHR cards,I am talking specifically about the 3070 ti and 3080 ti which are all LHR.These are good buys only if we have cheap or almost free electricity otherwise I would stay away from them.

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November 04, 2021, 05:41:33 PM
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https://whattomine.com/gpus
Take a look at the profit calculator and you will find the answer to your question.
LHR video cards have a reduced sheshrate when mining Ethereum and Ergo, but the rest of the coins have no restrictions when mining.
Paying a huge price for a non-LHR video card should not be, because Ethereum mining will end soon.

Thanks for your answer.
In the next 10 months Ethereum merge might happened but we can switch our graphics card to another proof of work coin and RTX 3070 non-LHR video cards perform well with Ravencoin or Ergo and will still have a good resale value.
This is not good news for Ravencoin.
https://www.nicehash.com/countdown/rvn-halving-2022-01-10-12-00

Ergo coin mines worse on LHR video cards.
https://whattomine.com/gpus/48-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?cost=0.1
https://whattomine.com/gpus/64-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr?cost=0.1

When a huge number of video cards start mining Ravencoin or Ergo, the profit will be very small.



I think it can be a good thing the Ravencoin's halving, if the price goes up it can easily compensate the halving.

All the other proof of work blockchains minable with GPUs are very small blockchains compared to Ethereum blockchain. When ETH will be proof of stake you will see all the hash rate get distributed and moving regularly from one PoW coin to the other but yeah I'm pretty sure the profit will never be as good as now.

My bro is a software engineer working for a DeFi company and he explained to me lately the latest developments in the Ethereum world and frankly these PoW coins like Ergo, Ravencoin etc. are simply not in the train in terms of future technology. Almost everything is happening on Ethereum blockchain (lately it's the Layer 2 boom https://l2beat.com/), the PoW coins are simple investment vehicles. Even Ergo doesn't have a lot of resources for coders, the vast majority of developers are on Ethereum.


Cardano coming soon will be interesting to follow because it will be possible to have your own blockchain... let's see. Pretty amazing concept that I don't understand all the details for sure hehe.
How many Ravencoins have you bought now to earn 100% profit in a few months?
I think you agree that "thinking" and "doing" are very different Smiley
I don't think PoW coins will disappear. Monero will be relevant for a long time.
But the further situation with video cards after Ethereum mining is very interesting to everyone.


I do think GPU crypto mining will remain for many more years but the profit will drastically drop for sure and from now I can tell without a doubt the future is Ethereum.

Maybe Cardano will become a competitor and maybe Ethereum will encounter challenges but if you analyze what is actually going on under the hood in the crypto world, I mean the latest and most exciting developments, Ethereum blockchain is almost always involved!!!
My biggest mistake in mining is listening to different predictions Smiley
There are a lot of coins, so you will have to spend more time researching and looking for new projects, because in recent years, Ethereum mining has made us lazy.
But there is still no exact information about the end of Ethereum mining.

It's possible that Ethereum merge will be postpone more than once next year but they will eventually switch to proof of stake for the consensus, I already have a node participating in the PoS.

Forget it, the blockchains of the PoW coins we could mine with our GPUs compared to Ethereum blockchain are tiny tiny tiny. This is why I started to invest in PoS Ethereum nodes validator.  

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November 05, 2021, 01:47:05 PM
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It's possible that Ethereum merge will be postpone more than once next year but they will eventually switch to proof of stake for the consensus, I already have a node participating in the PoS.

Forget it, the blockchains of the PoW coins we could mine with our GPUs compared to Ethereum blockchain are tiny tiny tiny. This is why I started to invest in PoS Ethereum nodes validator.  
We still have probably half a year to make decisions. Video cards have paid for themselves long ago, but I will not stop investing in mining. I will buy new video cards that consume little power.
And I already wrote my arguments about POS mining. These are also certain risks.

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November 07, 2021, 06:55:41 PM
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It's possible that Ethereum merge will be postpone more than once next year but they will eventually switch to proof of stake for the consensus, I already have a node participating in the PoS.

Forget it, the blockchains of the PoW coins we could mine with our GPUs compared to Ethereum blockchain are tiny tiny tiny. This is why I started to invest in PoS Ethereum nodes validator.  
We still have probably half a year to make decisions. Video cards have paid for themselves long ago, but I will not stop investing in mining. I will buy new video cards that consume little power.
And I already wrote my arguments about POS mining. These are also certain risks.

Agree! Yesterday I received a new RTX 3070 non-LHR so I could build another mining rig.
There's always risks, the thing for me about POS it's that even with Rocket Pool we still have to stake 16 ETH + 10% to run a node validator which is a lot of cash (it's around 81,000 USD in date of Nov 7, 2021, around 100,000 CAD for me Wink ) compared to building mining rigs it's way cheaper and yeah we will still make money with our GPUs after the Ethereum merge.

But the ETH you stake you'll be eventually able to recover it with most probably a good appreciation so if you look only at the hardwares cost for your node, it's sooo lucrative (more than 100% yield per year) but yeah it's very expensive to buy 17.6 ETH.

I am thinking next year to try to get a loan from a bank for validator nodes.

With RocketPool you'll be able to stake small amount of ETH like 0.1 ETH but it won't give you a yield as good as running a node validator hehe. Running a validator node on ETH 2.0 it's like to have a banking license kind of...

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November 08, 2021, 06:42:17 PM
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LHR unlocks are partial meaning only few percentage of the GPU power where truly unlocked, we are actually getting there thanks to strong Devs of NBminer and others I believe with time a permanent solution will be detected

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LHR unlocks are partial meaning only few percentage of the GPU power where truly unlocked, we are actually getting there thanks to strong Devs of NBminer and others I believe with time a permanent solution will be detected
I think that over time, this solution will not be needed by anyone.
Nvidia graphics cards will not mine Ethereum Classic because there are many other profitable coins out there.
I'm not sure that it makes sense to make such a solution now.
While the hash rate can be increased by increasing energy consumption, it is more convenient to mine other coins.

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Hi , i was able to flash regular non LHR bios to 3060Ti V2 and it booted
Windows recognized device , but have small issue with drivers
also had little of artefacts
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Hi , i was able to flash regular non LHR bios to 3060Ti V2 and it booted
Windows recognized device , but have small issue with drivers
also had little of artefacts
This does not work with nvidia 3xxx series video cards Smiley Smiley
LHR are made in a more tricky way, and many miners have already tried it before you.
If nito has not yet told about the results, then flashing the video card with another BIOS did not give the desired result.
And another problem is that the technical documentation for video cards is classified.

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November 26, 2021, 05:44:25 PM
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I believe that nbminer and t-rex (which proposes the mining of 2 coins together as a solution) are two good compromises but obviously they cannot remove the lhr at 100%, the only definitive solution is to find drivers that totally unlock
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