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October 31, 2021, 10:33:11 AM
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indeed, with trading leverage we can choose the leverage to be used, and that means the smaller the leverage, the more secure our capital, because we can only use limited lots, the rest of course will easily exit the market automatically. as long as we can manage the opening of transaction lots and manage greed, then with this system we will be more structured towards the planned portfolio

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October 31, 2021, 11:15:18 AM
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Trading with leverage is just an option you can make a trade with low leverage or zero leverage but if you have a small amount of money only and you want to make a trade its not profitable at all, else you will put leverage so you can get a higher chance of profit. Always make a trade which you can only afford on it. Lossing a trade does not mean you lose a profit still at the end of the day number of earning on every trade is the one you gives a good outcome. So base in my experience safe leverage is with the range of 25-75x.

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October 31, 2021, 02:10:08 PM
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Leverage trading is the riskier,  you can get wiped out in a minute.  Those that are not familiar with future and leverage should stay away until you know your risk and your are willing to take those risks head on!  Those with little money to trade can always focused on micro caps!

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October 31, 2021, 02:41:50 PM
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Trading with leverage is just an option you can make a trade with low leverage or zero leverage but if you have a small amount of money only and you want to make a trade its not profitable at all, else you will put leverage so you can get a higher chance of profit. Always make a trade which you can only afford on it. Lossing a trade does not mean you lose a profit still at the end of the day number of earning on every trade is the one you gives a good outcome. So base in my experience safe leverage is with the range of 25-75x.

Is this almost similar to Future? Because I've never done leverage. It seems tempting if this is similar to futures. But if it's the same it seems the risk is very big. I once did Futures trading but I gave up because if it goes down deep without SL then you will lose money. I am currently comfortable playing spot trading. Maybe I'm just uncomfortable because of the unstable emotional factor. You have to be able to control your emotions and that is very difficult. Because I've tried many times and it always failed.

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October 31, 2021, 04:26:01 PM
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Leverage trading is the riskier,  you can get wiped out in a minute.  Those that are not familiar with future and leverage should stay away until you know your risk and your are willing to take those risks head on!  Those with little money to trade can always focused on micro caps!
Yep, it is indeed got more risk but there are a lot of people who are owning in trading with leverage.
If you got good risk management and patience in trading, futures market or leverage trading is the best for you.

Newbie is not advisable to do trading with leverage at first, they might try first spot or even with leverage but they must first start with small leverage.

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October 31, 2021, 06:30:34 PM
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. Lesser risk when you set tight stops and trade smaller amounts. You don’t risk all of your capital and as you gain experience, learn how to navigate the leveraged trading market.
If you are trading only smaller amount means then why should you go for leveraged trading? Moreover tight stolploss are known for easy triggering by considering the amount of volatile we do have in crypto markets. There would be no mandatory requirement to have exposure on leveraged trading. So, simply doing all these in spot market will be more than enough for a trader who looks for gaining experiences.

Newbie is not advisable to do trading with leverage at first, they might try first spot or even with leverage but they must first start with small leverage.
Instead of going for small leverage, I guess just sticking with spot trading and increasing capital might help any trader as it will not multiply their risk factors. Small or high leverage, anything may get liquidated these days if you are not good at technical to enter at right price levels.

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October 31, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
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indeed, with trading leverage we can choose the leverage to be used, and that means the smaller the leverage, the more secure our capital, because we can only use limited lots, the rest of course will easily exit the market automatically. as long as we can manage the opening of transaction lots and manage greed, then with this system we will be more structured towards the planned portfolio
Leveraged trading is good but only as long as you know what you are doing. There are people who consider the trading market as a gambling house and will just buy any coin and that too with leverage.

I consider spot trading the best form of trading while leverage is good for those with low on funds but high on skill and knowledge. Then comes futures trading which in simple words is terrible and rich man's market. It is manipulated pretty badly and only the rich with unlimited capital can survive such a market. The small traders just bleed out.

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October 31, 2021, 11:52:34 PM
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While having tight stop losses can definitely help decrease risk, it's definitely going to increase the likeliness of you losing trades by orders of magnitude. Leverage is simply not the best way of learning how to trade. It's mostly just used as a sort of 'Hail Mary' of people with low amounts of money, in the hopes that they could gamble away their small amounts into good amounts.

And leverage isn't the only way of winning big. You can focus on small-mid caps to potentially have higher potential price increases. And yes, these are risky, but not as risky as leverage trading for the absolute trading newbie.

Yes I would definitely not recommend an absolute newbie to use high leverage, but those who have a basic understanding of the market and know technical analysis can surely benefit from it.
I do not think that even those that have a basic understanding of the market should use leverage either, I understand that people want to increase their profits but leverage is a very risky way to do this, especially because I often see people using something like 100x in leverage and anyone using that kind of leverage is just asking for trouble, because as we know the volatility in this market is extreme, so a single movement can be more than enough to force you to close your position due to a margin call.
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October 31, 2021, 11:56:12 PM
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indeed, with trading leverage we can choose the leverage to be used, and that means the smaller the leverage, the more secure our capital, because we can only use limited lots, the rest of course will easily exit the market automatically. as long as we can manage the opening of transaction lots and manage greed, then with this system we will be more structured towards the planned portfolio
Leveraged trading is good but only as long as you know what you are doing. There are people who consider the trading market as a gambling house and will just buy any coin and that too with leverage.

I consider spot trading the best form of trading while leverage is good for those with low on funds but high on skill and knowledge. Then comes futures trading which in simple words is terrible and rich man's market. It is manipulated pretty badly and only the rich with unlimited capital can survive such a market. The small traders just bleed out.

so if you know where you belong, you should know your limitations. don't push too hard because this will only just hurt your funds.
you can slowly increase your portfolio if you are patient enough in this market and while doing that, you can also increase your knowledge when it comes to crypto. because it is better to learn first hand regarding the tips & tricks because getting it from someone - usually you won't understand its importance. but if you gain it on your own, it would be easy to apply on your next movements.

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No ser, it would depend on how much leverage is used.

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November 01, 2021, 01:40:19 PM
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Hahaha bad advice! Those with little money should definitely be adviced to SAVE money, not GAMBLE their little money in “microcaps”!
The main reason why people leverage is because they do not have large amount of money to trade, that is why they instead think of going 2x, 3x or more. It all depends on experience, the leverage used and patience. Some people are good enough to turn small amount of money into something good. If anyone can not start to trade like this with lillte leverage like 2x, then the person can not be a good trader or will lose a lot before becoming a good trader that will make profit.

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November 01, 2021, 09:42:45 PM
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Leveraged trading is good but only as long as you know what you are doing. There are people who consider the trading market as a gambling house and will just buy any coin and that too with leverage.

I consider spot trading the best form of trading while leverage is good for those with low on funds but high on skill and knowledge. Then comes futures trading which in simple words is terrible and rich man's market. It is manipulated pretty badly and only the rich with unlimited capital can survive such a market. The small traders just bleed out.
Yeah, it can be a catastrophe which most traders wouldn’t like to experience at all. The idea of leverage trading usually sounds cool, why not? When you can use just $1,000 to make another $1,000 and turning your money into double. But the same way that you can turn your money into double is the same way that you can as well end up losing your whole money when the market goes against you. So before anyone considers leverage trading it would be best for them to first of all start with regular trading and make sure that they have maxed out their skills completely.

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November 01, 2021, 10:06:05 PM
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Trading with leverage is a good choice for those who know more and exactly understand, but not recommended for beginners.
We know that high profits commonly will require higher risks. It is also the same in this case.
Trading with leverage commonly will have higher profits than others, this can multiple our capital when trading and take big profits.
But, this also requires higher risks, we may also lose our money or because of the liquidity in the market.
This is very dilemma if we are not good enough or professional doing this generally.
But, actually, there are some ways to at least help us to minimize the risks, like using the feature of Stop Loss and also Hedging.
Once more, never try this if we are realy new


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Here are the pros I could sum up:

. First of course is the bigger market exposure. It seems like the right time to cash in on the crypto market, and for many beginners with limited capital, leverage seems to be the only option.
. Lesser risk when you set tight stops and trade smaller amounts. You don’t risk all of your capital and as you gain experience, learn how to navigate the leveraged trading market.
The biggest disadvantage obviously is the extreme volatility of the market which can magnify losses as much as it can increase profits through leverage.
How many of you here are using leverage to trade crypto, and how much, and through which broker? Let’s bring to light the many unknown aspects of crypto trading, besides what is known - that you screw things up when you don’t understand technical analysis and blindly enter and exit trades.
Leverage trading has only one pros: If you luckily catch good time, then you can happily see the increased profit, which, according to your leverage, can range from 2x to 10 or 100 or even higher, depends on if it's cross/isolated or you used leverage on futures.

Otherwise, leverage is the thing that can ruin your budget and life. Leverage is great for liquidity provider because in any way, he/she gets the profit and you are the one who risks the capital and the mental health. The market is so volatile that even if you use the lowest - 1x leverage, you can get liquidated in minutes. Yeah, I have seen when price skyrocketed for 1-2 minutes and then felt down.

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Leverage trading has only one pros: If you luckily catch good time, then you can happily see the increased profit, which, according to your leverage, can range from 2x to 10 or 100 or even higher, depends on if it's cross/isolated or you used leverage on futures.
Yeah, leverage on the other hand will help to highly skilled trader who are capable of predicting market turning points more accurately. If there would be a very little to no negative direction of market movements after we take the positions then we can find leverage trading as a gift but unfortunately no one could predict markets in that manner. So, we need to consider about availing leverage at very low fold or just trading in spot market would be a good decision.

Leverage is great for liquidity provider because in any way, he/she gets the profit and you are the one who risks the capital and the mental health.
I agree that when our losses are happening in higher magnitude then the pain we are suffering also higher. Just facing the market with actual capital and then keeping the losses within affordable and minimum level will help anyone to be sustaining within market rather than opting for quitting completely.
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November 02, 2021, 05:14:39 AM
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Actually, I cannot say that trading with leverage is a secure way. this may be secure (or fewer risks) for professional traders.
But it is very risky for non-professional or moreover for the beginners.
SL is only one of the features that can help us manage our trading, but it cannot guarantee that it has lesser risks.
I will not take this if I am not ready enough, at least with some knowledge of the features, TA analyzis, and also otehrs.



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November 02, 2021, 10:26:35 AM
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Hahaha bad advice! Those with little money should definitely be adviced to SAVE money, not GAMBLE their little money in “microcaps”!


The main reason why people leverage is because they do not have large amount of money to trade, that is why they instead think of going 2x, 3x or more. It all depends on experience, the leverage used and patience. Some people are good enough to turn small amount of money into something good. If anyone can not start to trade like this with lillte leverage like 2x, then the person can not be a good trader or will lose a lot before becoming a good trader that will make profit.


“Some people” will be “good enough”, of course. But MOST people, especially 90% of people who trade will lose their money to the 10% under a large sample. We mere plebs should save, not gamble. Would you advice your poor friend to gamble?

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When we talk about leverage trading I personally feel this is good way to earn daily or weekly money I don't understand why many traders fail into this leverage system. I trade on octafx with high lot, I loss my money but when I come to lowest lot trade not has liquidated but you have to wait. So there is nothing way to shortcut. In spot trading or leverage trading you have to wait means patience will going to test you always.
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November 02, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
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The main reason why people leverage is because they do not have large amount of money to trade, that is why they instead think of going 2x, 3x or more. ...

Your statement applies most of all to beginners who do not have enough money to fully trade on the spot market. But most professional traders and those who have already mastered spot trading well enough will certainly switch to margin trading. Because this is a completely different level, no matter what kind of deposit you have.

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Leverage trading is very risky. And a sudden pump or dump can vanish our whole account balance. And we lost our money. So, my advise is don't do leverage trading. Spot trading is safe and low risky. So, spot trading is a best option for trading. And if you use leverage trading then just set leverage 3x to 5x. It is a low risky leverage.

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