The Place of Respect in the Forum.

[KingsDen]

Offline/Online Respect
Many people feel that there are imaginary humans behind the screen, and as such could be treated without respect. This is not true. The personalities behind the screen are not imaginary or lesser humans. They are real humans, in terms of emotions, damages causable and love receivable.

Infact, when one is disrespected or abused online it is more damaging and severe than when done offline. This is because an offline abuse may happen once, probably in the presence of a fewer persons. But an online insult, bully and/or abuse would be seen by millions, and can be archived by the victim for further references. And when this archive is visited can always refresh the memories.
I therefore clamour for respect, which is reciprocal but irrespective of age, social status, forum rank or achievements.

Why it is Nice to be Respectful and Nice in the Forum.
1. Some people are victims of offline bullying and parental abuses. These set of people always take solace online, where no one will make physically contact with them. It will be more damaging if these persons are welcomed with on forum bullying and abuses. I am not that old here, but I am sure the older users can testify that atleast one person(s) has exited the forum for this reason.

2. Some persons are depressed due to some online/offline situations. Your next move to hurt these persons online might lead to suicide. I use myself for instance,  when I was newly and heavily scammed, I will enter the bathroom and spend not less than 2hrs crying. Someone in similar condition can do anything funny if hurted online.

3. It does not cost to be nice:
It costs nothing to be nice. Niceness is a free gift and should be given generously. If you don't have this gift of niceness please learn it; it will neither reduce your activity, merit nor rank in the forum.

4. Being nice will earn you more friends and admirers. If you are an enemy to majority of the forum users, here will not be user friendly to you again. And I doubt how well you will grow in the forum.

Some Tips to be Respectful and Nice in the Forum.
1. Do not spam the forum and her users.
2. Respect the privacy of the forum users by not sharing their  details or data without thier consent.
3. As much as possible, avoid typing in capital letters, as this means yelling.
4. Be polite always when posting or replying to posts. If you want to disagree to an opinion do so diplomatically.
5. You can ignore trolling to avoid escalation or better use Pm to explain things out.
6. Let your offline lifestyle be your online lifestyle. However, if your offline lifestyle is already bad you can amend here online for the love of humanity.
Thank you all!

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[Oshosondy]

It depends on what you count as nice, can you be nice to spammers? Not everybody you can be nice too, if you are always having a quality post, you will be nice to people that have quality posts, not spammers. Haven't you seen a very good poster correcting newbie and the newbies said no it is not like that when the newbie is blatantly wrong. This is a forum with plenty people, people can not and can never act the same or be the same but the best way for people to show kindness to you is to act like they are, if they post good, you too post good to draw their attention.

4. Being nice will earn you more friends and admirers.

If the whole thing is about this forum, then put it like this, post good and people that post good will admire you and you will admire them too, nothing like nice for nothing because the main goal of this forum is good contribution good posts.

2. Respect the privacy of the forum users by not sharing their  details or data without thier consent.

Information you told a person, many people could have heard it even after you trust the person that you told. You can be visiting this forum with tor or vpn and remain anonymous if you want to be anonymous, if you have told someone about you here, then expect many other people to have known you.

[KingsDen]

It depends on what you count as nice, can you be nice to spammers?

You can be nice to spammers too. Be nice to their personality and report their acts to the moderators or whoever in charge. Also you can use the ignore tool without being harsh too.

Not everybody you can be nice too, if you are always having a quality post, you will be nice to people that have quality posts, not spammers. Haven't you seen a very good poster correcting newbie and the newbies said no it is not like that when the newbie is blatantly wrong.

 Niceness and respect is backward compatibility.   It does not mean that the higher will always be nice to the lower. In the above instance, it means that the newbie is not being nice to the person correcting him

This is a forum with plenty people, people can not and can never act the same or be the same but the best way for people to show kindness to you is to act like they are, if they post good, you too post good to draw their attention.

Kindness has nothing/little to do with quality of post.

4. Being nice will earn you more friends and admirers.

If the whole thing is about this forum, then put it like this, post good and people that post good will admire you and you will admire them too, nothing like nice for nothing because the main goal of this forum is good contribution good posts.

Noted!

2. Respect the privacy of the forum users by not sharing their  details or data without thier consent.

Information you told a person, many people could have heard it even after you trust the person that you told. You can be visiting this forum with tor or vpn and remain anonymous if you want to be anonymous, if you have told someone about you here, then expect many other people to have known you.

Privacy especially in this context is not all about identity.

[Rruchi man]

Offline/Online Respect
Infact, when one is disrespected or abused online it is more damaging and severe than when done offline.

I personally will take offline disrespect more seriously considering that the person who is disrespectful is someone who knows you and maybe can see that you are not someone to be disrespected. But online, considering that you can't see each other and the person only has a mental picture of you, you have to develop a thick skin, respect yourself so others can respect you, and when you meet someone who disrespects you, don't take it to heart because the person doesn't really know you and some people are without manners normally.

[SatoPrincess]

People are brutal and merciless on the internet although they may be nice and fun to be with offline. They become a different person on the web. Luckily the developers of bitcointalk had the foresight to add "ignore function" and "report to moderator function". This two are the only mechanisms put in place to reduce cyber bullying. 

[cryptoaddictchie]

4. Be polite always when posting or replying to posts. If you want to disagree to an opinion do so diplomatically.
5. You can ignore trolling to avoid escalation or better use Pm to explain things out.

These two are some of the things I observed on forum. There are some who like to argue badly and even used harsh words when dealing to some newbies. Yes they are wrong but lets be polite when talking to them, and giving out harsh words cause everyone makes a mistake and correcting them the right way is always the best thing to do.

[GeorgeJohn]

3. It does not cost to be nice:
It costs nothing to be nice. Niceness is a free gift and should be given generously. If you don't have this gift of niceness please learn it; it will neither reduce your activity, merit nor rank in the forum.

cooperation or relationship is unpredictable in the community, actually we are nice to each fellow from my perspective, because we are not dragging any appointments with anyone, and another thing is that you can't pleased everyone nor matters the level of your communication you most be bad egg to other person, and i found out that before someone disregard or attacks anyone, the person might have violates some atoms of the community protocols

4. Being nice will earn you more friends and admirers. If you are an enemy to majority of the forum users, here will not be user friendly to you again. And I doubt how well you will grow in the forum.

Actually you are making  sense but already everyone is good frim my view, because is very difficult before you could notice that you're not cool with somebody, and is very obvious that you can't force yourself to be nice with everyone, so emphasising in aspect of growth, it's base on the ability of user to research, good communication of user, determination and also be innovative to the community entirely, i think this is necessary things we needs for a community user to be elevated irrespective your uncooperation to others.

[lovesmayfamilis]

To be honest, I see no point in creating a similar theme in the beginner's section. It is more suitable for off-topic.
But I agree that sometimes on the Internet we meet people whose behavior on the Internet is very different from their offline behavior. Usually people hide their complexes, which are full in everyday life, and on the Internet, they pretend to be some cool dude respected by the whole  "alma mater" or district
As for beginners, the only true recommendation is to be yourself. If someone is not very strong in any sciences, you don't need to look smarter. Sincerity is always more noticeable than the delivery of knowledge in which a person understands little.

And yes, demanding respect from people is another drawback.

I therefore clamour for respect, which is reciprocal but irrespective of age, social status, forum rank or achievements.

Respect cannot be bought or forcibly made to respect oneself.
Respect comes from what a certain person does and is earned by actions.

[ifarted]

To be honest, I see no point in creating a similar theme in the beginner's section. It is more suitable for off-topic.

Yes, i agree with you off topic is more suitable for this topic but somehow i see his/her point. This thread can also help whom are begginers or new in the forum to remind them how you can benefit so much and help others by being respectful and nice.

2. Some persons are depressed due to some online/offline situations. Your next move to hurt these persons online might lead to suicide. I use myself for instance,  when I was newly and heavily scammed, I will enter the bathroom and spend not less than 2hrs crying. Someone in similar condition can do anything funny if hurted online.

This is so true, it can affect a person mentally and emotionally when abused, bully and insulted online. People might not have known because they can't see the person behind the screen hurting so much from the humiliation and pain they recieve from others. When you have depression the pain goes like 100 times more harder and painful for them, any small things that is not a big deal to others can trigger them to suicide. That is why being respectful and nice is important in the forum. Not just online but it applies in offline too.

My teacher in high school used to say:
"Treat me right and i'll treat you right"
"Respect me and i"ll respect you"

[coupable]

"Respect" is a relative concept that may have different definitions. Some thinks that disrespect a scammer or a troller is a normal reactions while some others think that respectful speech should be applied in all situations with everybody.

4. Be polite always when posting or replying to posts. If you want to disagree to an opinion do so diplomatically.
5. You can ignore trolling to avoid escalation or better use Pm to explain things out.

These two are some of the things I observed on forum. There are some who like to argue badly and even used harsh words when dealing to some newbies. Yes they are wrong but lets be polite when talking to them, and giving out harsh words cause everyone makes a mistake and correcting them the right way is always the best thing to do.

Active forum users for more than two years long would had surely encounter the profile of Tman or Spoetnik (both are not active anymore). Both of them has his unique style of reacting over things, which may not be liked by everybody (while some users dislike their posting habits, many others admire them). This is a public like any other public space, you may find a mixture of people attitudes and behaviors that surely won't be liked by everybody.

People are brutal and merciless on the internet although they may be nice and fun to be with offline. They become a different person on the web. Luckily the developers of bitcointalk had the foresight to add "ignore function" and "report to moderator function". This two are the only mechanisms put in place to reduce cyber bullying. 

Both mecanisms can't really help reduce cyber bullying ; You can active the "ignore function" to not read unfavorite replies, although it doesn't forbid someone from writing what he wants or others to read it (guest users in particular because they can't active the ignore option without logging in), and the "report to moderator function" is only effecient when the reported message contains something against the forum rules (if am not wrong, hate speech for instance isn't against forum rules).

[Luzin]

Some Tips to be Respectful and Nice in the Forum.
1. Do not spam the forum and her users.
2. Respect the privacy of the forum users by not sharing their  details or data without thier consent.

1. Since the enactment of the spam posting merit system, it seems that it has decreased a lot, although it still exists. Because I think not all members here have the same understanding and ability in forums

2. Of course respecting confidentiality is good manners and it seems this forum has provided pretty good privacy settings. You can choose the settings to show the data you want to share with other people. And sometimes that data is needed to prove it.

Everyone's forum skills are different, so sometimes these differences make forums interesting in discussion. There are attacking type people, there are people who give up their opinions easily. Those are all part of the forum that can make the forum continue to grow. IMO

[KarpovE4]

Cyber bullying is a crime topic that is overlooked. Some people are overly sensitive and can easily be depressed about the slightest misunderstanding. These kinds of people cannot survive the harsh conditions of social media. Take a day to read reputation topics look at some feedbacks left on profiles. Some of the words used are very insulting and cruel. This is the way of the internet. Bitcointalk forum is not an oasis there are good and bad people everywhere

[Smartvirus]

There are different personalities on the Internet. The Internet is where you could meet someone who is like acts like a dove in the physical but behind his or her keypads, you see a fierced lion. Its 9ne of those things with the internet and funny enough, these people do this and actually enjoy it, they find it so amusing to mess up another person's online life.

Then, if you look again, you would see that some persons and victim of abuse are really not victims but those that over leverage the flaws of the internet. They tend to be dishonest and in the crypto space, truth and honesty is what we trade on. Once your found to be dishonest, it becomes so difficult to trade of do business with you. Little wonder why we've got the trust system on the forum and it's based on testimonies from users whom have had a personal encounter as per business and possibly your fight for being just in the forum.

Let's try to do the right or most good and disease from sabotaging other users just because it's amusing. That's a person with the user!

[decodx]

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I believe I always tried to be very polite on the forum.
I also tried to be as objective as I could and try to explain my point of view without ranting but in general, I think it was better to try to keep a balance between being nice, and being objective on the forum.

What about scammers and rulebreakers? Do you believe they deserve to be treated nicely and with respect? I don't think so. I believe that everyone should be treated fairly. People who are disrespectful to others deserve no better treatment.

[isaac_clarke22]

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I remember back in my high school days that one my teachers taught us about the "digital self". It is basically how they show their persona when it comes to being in online world. Funny enough, there are those straight dudes posing as an anime girl in the online world just to have the attention from some other people for obvious reasons. There are those also posing as keyboard warriors, but behind the monitor, they are just thin-skinned individuals crying over small stuffs while the Internet is just being the Internet.

[Marykeller]

There are ways people tend to react to issues on the internet whether harsh or nice. The majority intends to hide behind their keyboards. The only place they can voice out boldly is on the internet, outside the Internet, they are very shy to speak one's mind.
The forum is like open wings for us to share ideas openly and also learn without knowing each other capabilities in real life. We all hide behind our gadgets keyboards

[KarpovE4]

There are ways people tend to react to issues on the internet whether harsh or nice. The majority intends to hide behind their keyboards. The only place they can voice out boldly is on the internet, outside the Internet, they are very shy to speak one's mind.
The forum is like open wings for us to share ideas openly and also learn without knowing each other capabilities in real life. We all hide behind our gadgets keyboards

Correct well said. Online gangsters everywhere you turn. They have a mob ready to lynch you if you cross them. I do not get into fights with them when I do I just walk away. Responding to their attacks will only feed the trolls

[Mpamaegbu]

Offline/Online Respect
Infact, when one is disrespected or abused online it is more damaging and severe than when done offline. This is because an offline abuse may happen once, probably in the presence of a fewer persons.

I think reverse is the case. People don't easily insult others when confronted offline or in person but they can easily do that online. Keyboard warriors and soldiers always find the slightest opportunity to throw those who are even older than their parents under the bus. In a forum like this, what we may notice is more of bullying rather than disrespect where more established users tend to lord it over lower ranked members. Members who do that believe their high ranks endown them with knowledge and age, and this may not be true. Often it has proved not to be truth.

BTW OP, I will like to hear your story on how you got scammed. It's so that others may learn a thing or two from it

But I agree that sometimes on the Internet we meet people whose behavior on the Internet is very different from their offline behavior. Usually people hide their complexes, which are full in everyday life, and on the Internet, they pretend to be some cool dude respected by the whole  "alma mater" or district

That would be hypocrisy at its peak and a lot of people are fond of doing that. This is the major reason no sensible person should copy the social media lifestyles of others. Humans tend to pretend a lot.

Respect cannot be bought or forcibly made to respect oneself.
Respect comes from what a certain person does and is earned by actions.

I strongly applaud this . It's the same way I feel and react to issues regarding respect. It can't be forced but earned.

[KingsDen]

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I remember back in my high school days that one my teachers taught us about the "digital self". It is basically how they show their persona when it comes to being in online world. Funny enough, there are those straight dudes posing as an anime girl in the online world just to have the attention from some other people for obvious reasons. There are those also posing as keyboard warriors, but behind the monitor, they are just thin-skinned individuals crying over small stuffs while the Internet is just being the Internet.

Funny and true. I don't know why there is that much variation in one's self. In as much as I agree with you, I want to ask that; if one can be thin-skinned offline and becomes thick-skin online. Can the reverse be the case? ie being bold offline and shy online? Maybe crying over small stuffs...

BTW OP, I will like to hear your story on how you got scammed. It's so that others may learn a thing or two from it

I would love to share in an interview and maybe if there is a specific thread for that.
But don't expect anything much, it's same fate as people who has not embraced crypto before. Maybe mine was little extreme.

[sheenshane]

I would love to share in an interview and maybe if there is a specific thread for that.

Just ask zasad@ for this and ask about the thread that he/she created. 
[Interviews] with Bitcointalk members, it might you have a chance to give an interview and below thread indicate, don't hesitate to send him a PM or try to reach him out via PM.

I have been told this before so many times, we should have respect for each other especially if there are newbies asking a question, we should guide them as we are of higher rank to them and has more knowledgeable than them.  Because when I was a newbie I was encountered a higher rank that has an arrogant answer which is even calling me an idiot at that time.  Being nice and be respectful is a perfect example for them.