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October 30, 2021, 11:40:28 AM |
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Also, fuck Facebook and Zuckerberg. Both of them are the reason (along with the existence of smartphones) why 20 people can be standing in a room together and not be genuinely social--because they're on a cheap substitute, i.e., social media. It's sickening, and I'll have no part of it.
Well, that's part of the technological advancements. Social media, connecting people from all over the globe yet disconnecting people near you lol. We might've enjoyed this kind of modern innovation, but yeah fuck the social media. Now, it depends on a person how he deals with giving attention to social media and most especially giving attention to the person who's near you. And here's a new innovation called meta where metaverse has been develop. Maybe because the reality is just too harsh for most people.
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October 30, 2021, 01:23:33 PM |
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There are feeling from critics of Facebook that the name changing is made out of hiding from public criticism. Do you think this planned rebranding will change anything on the PR crisis or is going to remain despite the name changing ?
It's basically the formulation of a holding company with a bit more fanfare than usual. These billionaires are just rolling in money and any slight diversionary tactics they can use to get a bit of good press (or remove some of the bad) will be jumped on. Nothing really changes, it is just another company that doesn't have any of the reputational damage associated with Facebook, so they might be able to partner with people who won't go near them previously. There are a lot of people around the world that swear off that company and deleted their accounts if they ever had one, that might be tricked back into using an associated company because they all share the same data anyway.
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October 30, 2021, 01:29:20 PM |
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Nothing will really change despite the rebranding since it's still the same set of developers and even with a new concept or idea their users will find it quite difficult to adapt and even they do it would take time. To me the rebranding isn't necessary
When you think about the unnecessary rebranding, it's using the user status while the Facebook group managers are using the business owner status and implementing a new paradigm, once this key model is strong enough, it will be a new form of business, from stock value to other ambitions in the future, it will definitely be a plus as well as a piece of paper to approve many other contracts. Just by looking at their names, if crypto is enough to deal with most governments, Facebook will randomly monopolize the metaverse brand.
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October 30, 2021, 02:08:41 PM |
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Pretty much. Everyone's speculating that it's to sort of clean their name's bad reputation or something; I think everyone's just overthinking it. It's simply just a re-brand due to their main umbrella company now having multiple(and increasing number) of brands.
+1 Pretty much the same thing (AFAIK) happened in 2015 when Google changed the name to Alphabet as they were expanding the business. That name didn't stick though (at least I never heard anyone calling parent company "Alphabet) and I guess it might be the same thing with Facebook. The umbrella company of Google is technically still Alphabet Inc. It's just that saying "Google" is far more easier and the fact that you don't need to explain to the normies " oh what's Alphabet? It's the parent company of Google", and the fact that their stock tickers are $GOOG(class A) and $GOOGL(class B).
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October 30, 2021, 02:42:00 PM |
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The umbrella company of Google is technically still Alphabet Inc. It's just that saying "Google" is far more easier and the fact that you don't need to explain to the normies "oh what's Alphabet? It's the parent company of Google", and the fact that their stock tickers are $GOOG(class A) and $GOOGL(class B).
Yeah I know, hence my comparison with Facebook as I expect people to stick to that name, instead of Meta. Unless they push it hard and invest shit load of money into marketing, something that Google didn't do (as far as I know).
Talking about changes, I heard that they already implemented some changes, as if you "Facebook" set as a workplace (for whatever reason) in profile bio, its changed to Meta. I tried to do the same, and it seems like its true; you can't set "Facebook" as a workplace anymore, you get message saying that name is not supported.
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October 30, 2021, 02:49:46 PM |
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The umbrella company of Google is technically still Alphabet Inc. It's just that saying "Google" is far more easier and the fact that you don't need to explain to the normies "oh what's Alphabet? It's the parent company of Google", and the fact that their stock tickers are $GOOG(class A) and $GOOGL(class B).
Yeah I know, hence my comparison with Facebook as I expect people to stick to that name, instead of Meta. Unless they push it hard and invest shit load of money into marketing, something that Google didn't do (as far as I know).
Talking about changes, I heard that they already implemented some changes, as if you "Facebook" set as a workplace (for whatever reason) in profile bio, its changed to Meta. I tried to do the same, and it seems like its true; you can't set "Facebook" as a workplace anymore, you get message saying that name is not supported. It might be useful for people who do work by owning a business. But for people who are already familiar with Facebook as a social media boundary, it won't make it seem as if it's extraordinary with the rebranding. Facebook has been known by all circles and it is the most friendly social media for anyone, children, old, young, from all elements of society. Now when the new concept is going to be implemented with several simulated implementations, I'm worried that Facebook's general early nature makes it more of a big business sector. Remembering at that time Mark who wanted to launch his crypto was rejected and even criticized. So that behind the rebranding of Facebook actually has a goal that he has not completed.
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October 30, 2021, 03:04:13 PM |
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Talking about changes, I heard that they already implemented some changes, as if you "Facebook" set as a workplace (for whatever reason) in profile bio, its changed to Meta. I tried to do the same, and it seems like its true; you can't set "Facebook" as a workplace anymore, you get message saying that name is not supported.
Their change lies in their future business targets, it doesn't mean that the current Facebook platform immediately changes like the metaverse that Mark has promoted. But this is very reasonable for a big corp, even this change I believe requires a very large amount of funds to achieve a very big change as well. In my country, the 3 media under the Facebook company have their respective markets. The Facebook app in my country is mostly used by people aged 35 years and over or housewives, while Instagram is dominated by young people 15-35. I don't really understand whether they will launch a new platform specifically for Metaverse or the Facebook app itself will be developed.
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The Facebook app in my country is mostly used by people aged 35 years and over or housewives, while Instagram is dominated by young people 15-35. It's pretty much the same thing everywhere when it comes to the average age of Facebook user. I don't really understand whether they will launch a new platform specifically for Metaverse or the Facebook app itself will be developed.
There won't be any big changes in that regard; Facebook app will still be called Facebook, it's just that parent company is changing name. So from now on parent company of Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp will be called Meta (instead of Facebook) and that's about it. At least for now.
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October 30, 2021, 04:28:13 PM |
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Facebook over the years has been developing so many social media apps that are being used by millions if not billions of people all over the world, and it is a red alert when it comes to the question of privacy and data collection, and even though people do know that they are collecting data about them they really didn't notice or make a huge thing out of it until it was taken to court, and some may say that they are renaming the company just for sake of it, but it obvious that they are trying to cover up their tracks and the bad public picture that they have got.
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The rebranding corresponds to more than one factor. Firstly, the inevitable slowdown in growth - social networks have an element of fashion and novelty and Facebook's got nothing left of that. Secondly, the damage dealt to their image by yearly scandals and whistle blowers. Thirdly, a real intent of the company to transform itself to be able to grow further.
This third element is not a distraction, Facebook and other companies are considering seriously the "metalifes" or "metaverses" (think of second life as example) as their future and they are very serious about it. Facebook routinely tests products and changes and my take is that they are going to throw weight behind the metaverse idea.
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October 31, 2021, 01:13:27 PM |
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Facebook stopped being "cool" years ago.In the last few years,Facebook turned into the social network of the old people.The young people moved to Instagram,but Instagram turned into Facebook 2.0 so the young people moved into apps like Tik Tok and Snapchat (which are totally stupid and cringe,but what else can you expect from kids and teenagers). Zuckerberg wants to squeeze as much profits from Facebook and Instagram as he can.There's nothing wrong with that,after all,this is a business like any other business.Selling user metadata and maintaining a toxic and addictive social media environment are bad business practices,but they aren't considered illegal. Maybe Facebook is doomed to become the new MySpace and disappear into oblivion.Changing the name won't help the company to become better.
It's is no coincidence that rebranding exercise had taken place at a time when social media giant is facing an existential crisis. Recently a whistle blower says facebook is being accused of choosing profit over users safety. It's money and profits over ethics.FB has lost the trust of millions of users. "Meta" is welcoming step otherwise without any updation it will field out like "orkut". While meta claims to be looking into the future it needs to focus on existing controversies. A new name can't wash away the FB's crime. Otherwise the metaverse isn't new world for social interactions it's a new world for FB to mine our data.
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October 31, 2021, 01:58:56 PM |
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All this is a lackluster attempt at decentralization. Actually, decentralization was proposed by Facebook after the recent collapse all platforms associated with it had. But I can't help feeling it be a bit disingenuine and this rebranding is showing just that. This is just putting lipstick on a pig at the end of the day.
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October 31, 2021, 04:04:09 PM |
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~snip Facebook Rebrands Name To Meta~snip There are feeling from critics of Facebook that the name changing is made out of hiding from public criticism. Do you think this planned rebranding will change anything on the PR crisis or is going to remain despite the name changing ? The issue of security weaknesses on Facebook is still very strong so many are pessimistic about Zuck's plan, some even give META stands for " Monitoring Every Transaction Account". I am pessimistic that META will lead in the development of the metaverse.
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October 31, 2021, 05:17:01 PM |
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This have unlocked the door to better crypto market into 2022, if you know what's good for you erase bear market from your mind from now on into first quarter of 2022, the market will become very bullish and BTC achieving 100k at this point is now possible, I know that BTC has nothing to do with metaverse but it has everything to do with cryptoverse, welcome to the future.
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October 31, 2021, 06:41:32 PM |
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Just a heads up to the readers: Facebook, Inc(the company) =/= Facebook(the social media platform)
They are NOT renaming the Facebook platform to Meta lol. Facebook will still be Facebook, Instagram will still be Instagram, etc. They're just renaming the umbrella company(Facebook, inc), because Facebook, Inc(now Meta Platforms, Inc), owns a good number of platforms. Namely: Facebook/Messenger, Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus, and etc. There seems to be a lot of confusion lol.
Well, if that is the case it's just a technical modification that won't have any practical impact over the public opinion. The news saying facebook is rebranding the company name to avoid criticisms are just doing this for click bait purposes then. Probably majority of facebook users won't even know or care about it and nothing regards facebook's image will change at all in the public's eyes. The dangerous and worrying part of all of that (which pass unnoticed sometimes) is "Meta" controlling the most popular means of communication in the virtual universe.
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Not so long ago, Facebook was a fairly respected product for me, interesting technologies, and Mark, you guessed it, was the most interesting manager of our time! The product, of course, was aimed at advertising, and selling "the largest audience in one application". Ok, everything is fine, business as business, people like it, everything is fine. But somehow imperceptibly, in addition to the economic component, the political conjuncture began to influence the work of the system. Plus, as it seemed to me, Mark / company had a feeling that they "caught God by the beard" and they are allowed not only everything, but even more. And as it should be in such situations, problems began. You can decide for any, but one of the key goals is to minimize reputation losses. This is not a simple matter, and even complicated. Reputation is not a buggy block for sending photos, reputation losses are very bad. Losing a reputation is easy, to restore, difficult, so much so that sometimes it is not even possible. What's up with Mark and Co? Well, as one of the ways to minimize problems, yes, rebranding. Why not ? But the question is how to remove the odor, the memory of a billion users, and the all-remembering time machines with articles? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 31, 2021, 09:11:24 PM |
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Also, fuck Facebook and Zuckerberg. Both of them are the reason (along with the existence of smartphones) why 20 people can be standing in a room together and not be genuinely social--because they're on a cheap substitute, i.e., social media. It's sickening, and I'll have no part of it.
Well, that's part of the technological advancements. Social media, connecting people from all over the globe yet disconnecting people near you lol. We might've enjoyed this kind of modern innovation, but yeah fuck the social media. Now, it depends on a person how he deals with giving attention to social media and most especially giving attention to the person who's near you. And here's a new innovation called meta where metaverse has been develop. Maybe because the reality is just too harsh for most people. I do somewhat really agree on this one when it comes to sociolizing kind of topic then we could really say that there is really a big impact of this current technology we do have and yes its true that it is one of the cons. We are living on a world on where people arent really that interacting personally and just facing on their own respective mobile phones. Facebook changing its name to Meta doesnt really changed up everything.We are still shackled into this reality.
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I see some projects having a meta in their name pumping after this. I dont know if its correlated to this news or just because of BTC pumping but virtual reality related projects are getting into mainstream. They just didn't know that Meta the new facebook will be their greatest rival in the field and could potentially eat their mc. Lol.
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