Craig Wright? - signed Bitcoin message

[iamonlinenow]

C Wright - signed message - Bitcoin
https://pastebin.com/mNcAPrRv

Code:

Pubkeys and Bitcoin addresses

04d285c703648887f226137be3f3868a95ca562f70fa1654f19d530d134cbc00edf6f5827b367d9b358b4ea00f32486b19e630603f5f8708d068c2ba759dec9665
1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF

04b0f7845182d287fa5896b9cdac747726564a6aa4db97f5a84e4884a5af2b16f5a5637f889292add9c51415f9ff30caba43e637b2251f143b5bd73d57dd120fad
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5

04379abc41da6ba6a1d9494aa0c345658d1d67d9900e04344683f9de4255a29cf0a8d20b0e1e59f1ab9bc08537c57c72485600ab7e4edd866c0b2434d3a5235af7
1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG

04f8c0244bfe78228c7eee52ee1842e6092b5bff2b907575f5dd9fe1d0c3b45645ba9d301fb45407aaa1a9a4a54547bbfa5b861f007ed7e5bc97c6697d57b17621
1i7JYfJiXf5ARAysJaRaECLLcnrx1Gcuw

04ab022c4b71590a621ba06dd78ccc8b41d8d741c29d0486ba79527cbcd16a788920cdee7d02a80bd67f85e930f6182f0cccc41a2bf67665f6e03776a05bea797e
1g7nBFZkyET8TPXBoxzBYA83XPJzwDCVT

04dd2e147a2d489d5afa2331e3adaf27a8bf2ce5176b574cc3f15d254475c3bac96361776d17560d019981a70f31e246aa6632428e57f787ef6915ebae19f04e1c
1h7djfQ2MjojsRJQdvn6jNuJZZB9oFYLm

04876ca85b08d1adb23639410084ea4953cfda40c676f8e10be5dd08eefee5065527ff2580ee182aa46f1bde2fa3a3c80bde963e7fba24a1e60f4d81d1cf9a03ea
1t7MqxnqwmwooDjKnvV9AFkiktqUvvxkq


2nd chars of the addresses: CWright

1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5
1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG
1i7JYfJiXf5ARAysJaRaECLLcnrx1Gcuw
1g7nBFZkyET8TPXBoxzBYA83XPJzwDCVT
1h7djfQ2MjojsRJQdvn6jNuJZZB9oFYLm
1t7MqxnqwmwooDjKnvV9AFkiktqUvvxkq


ECC sum of the 7 pubkeys:

041cdced0646879da917d4d9eba9669329c8feb29425d5b192f722a00eebc0d216a4969ce2061614087ba4a631618f322cbda3dddaf79205db95bba4d24939701e
17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L


1st Bitcoin address in the list
1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF
Bitcoin block 6629 (07/03/2009)

2nd Bitcoin address in the list 
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5
Bitcoin block 18111 (26/06/2009)



Bitcoin signature:
Signed message:
CWright?
Signature:
G/3yr8ouR8jhC+Bv5K+q/vGHuwX/hp9Kx7pQ6Coxt3a/Wmd2yif6e2nf8Srnx/dpR1rIFUpV8qf+rW6B+ktKjTk=
Bitcoin address:
17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L

2 early mined blocks (2009):

1st Bitcoin address in the list
1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF
Bitcoin block 6629 (03/07/2009)

2nd Bitcoin address in the list
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5
Bitcoin block 18111 (26/06/2009)

3rd - 7th addresses: no transactions found

The sum of these 7 addresses (ECC) :
Pubkey:
041cdced0646879da917d4d9eba9669329c8feb29425d5b192f722a00eebc0d216a4969ce206161 4087ba4a631618f322cbda3dddaf79205db95bba4d24939701e
Address:
17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L

Signature:
Signed message:
CWright?
Bitcoin address:
17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L
Signature:
G/3yr8ouR8jhC+Bv5K+q/vGHuwX/hp9Kx7pQ6Coxt3a/Wmd2yif6e2nf8Srnx/dpR1rIFUpV8qf+rW6B+ktKjTk=

[1715083302]

1715083302

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1715083302

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1715083302

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1715083302

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1715083302

[BlackHatCoiner]

What's the signed message? I can only see a signature and seven public keys.

Also, what is this suppose to mean?

Code:

2nd chars of the addresses: CWright

1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5
1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG
1i7JYfJiXf5ARAysJaRaECLLcnrx1Gcuw
1g7nBFZkyET8TPXBoxzBYA83XPJzwDCVT
1h7djfQ2MjojsRJQdvn6jNuJZZB9oFYLm
1t7MqxnqwmwooDjKnvV9AFkiktqUvvxkq

Okay, so you've generated seven addresses whose public keys once summed in secp256k1 give you a public key whose address has bitcoins. So what? I can do this too and form a fancy saying using dozen of addresses whose public keys once summed in secp256k1 will give you satoshi's public key.

[bL4nkcode]

C Wright - signed message - Bitcoin
https://pastebin.com/mNcAPrRv
[...]

2 early mined blocks (2009):

1st Bitcoin address in the list
1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF
Bitcoin block 6629 (03/07/2009)

2nd Bitcoin address in the list
1W7PDetXCcAbXnN6YQyWmAdz65WZecJs5
Bitcoin block 18111 (26/06/2009)

At least learn first how signed message works, and how it can be verified using tools (signature verifier). Provide wallet address, message (signed message) with date, and the signature. What you show is just wallet address and random characters (public keys) you're calling signature or what?.

[iamonlinenow]

... So what? I can do this too and form a fancy saying using dozen of addresses whose public keys once summed in secp256k1 will give you satoshi's public key.

The result is the ECC sum of 7 pubkeys from which 2 are early (2009) addresses. And the result has been signed. How can one add addresses and sign with the sum/result? I would be grateful if you explained it here with examples.

At least learn first how signed message works, and how it can be verified using tools (signature verifier). Provide wallet address, message (signed message) with date, and the signature. What you show is just wallet address and random characters (public keys) you're calling signature or what?.

(Edited the 1st post. The signature was in the code box.)
I checked the signature, it is working. (https://www.verifybitcoinmessage.com/)

[mynonce]

Okay, so you've generated seven addresses whose public keys once summed in secp256k1 give you a public key whose address has bitcoins. So what? I can do this too and form a fancy saying using dozen of addresses whose public keys once summed in secp256k1 will give you satoshi's public key.

Can you sign a message with that public key?

In the OP example there is a valid signature. That means someone has (or had) the private key for the public key.

[odolvlobo]

It's a trick, similar to the one in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367558.0

I don't know how it is done, but the fact that the second characters of the addresses are "C", "W", "r", "i", "g", "h", "t" means nothing.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Just goes to show how far the BSV shills can go to try and spread the lies. If Craig had the private Keys to the Bitcoin addresses, Why wouldn't he sign directly from about 5 of them. It doesn't one to have knowledge of Rocket science to do so.

As pointed out by odolvlobo, someone already signed a message with pubkeys of the early BTC address using the same procedure

Don't just religiously believe anything you see on the internet.

[pooya87]

It's a trick, similar to the one in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367558.0

I don't know how it is done, but the fact that the second characters of the addresses are "C", "W", "r", "i", "g", "h", "t" means nothing.

Rather simple.
You start in reverse meaning instead of adding random public keys to the starting pubkey, you find the final key and then start working your way backwards by subtracting the pub key (of the private key you already have) from the starting public key (which you don't have the private key of).

A simple example would be like this:
The first public key is a pubkey from blockchain that we do NOT own its private key. Lets use the one posted by OP (called pub1):

Code:

04d285c703648887f226137be3f3868a95ca562f70fa1654f19d530d134cbc00edf6f5827b367d9b358b4ea00f32486b19e630603f5f8708d068c2ba759dec9665

It can be converted to the following address: 1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF

Then we create a random private key. I used SHA256 hash of my username (SHA256("pooya87)) to show that it doesn't mean anything and it is truly random.

Code:

5KivUXF2GxYN4aY9ebpY9Yif4J7VJ3QXyPUB7ozA2HtRcNyTjwa

This key will be modified and will be the final key we use to sign a message and its public key (after we modify it) will be the result of adding all the intermediary pubkeys.
Call this privX and pubX

Now decide what dumb letter you want in your second address. Lets say it is "W" similar to OP.
I will use 3 keys in total to keep the computational cost to minimum since I don't want to waste my time but the idea is the same, you keep going backwards (t > h > g > i > r > W > C) you can add more to say "CW is a scammer and BSV is a shitcoin"
The letter we want are:
1. C (from origninal pubkey posted above).
2. W (what we want to get in the mid pubkey). Call this pub2
3. Random letter that doesn't matter.

Code:

LOOP:
  Compute pub2 = pubX - pub1
  Compute address of pub2 and check if it starts with W
    return if true
    change privX to privX+1
END;

If you repeat the above loop 24 times you end up with the following mid public key:

Code:

04456541df8a1bd19f0ae85da3c73baa3812a537a8fa7b02f22d853828bb3053e4bad7b79fdfaf1f8136f2b052a89f55f0af5c248d5ea9c4d9d1094dc58b26299f

That has the following address starting with the dumb letter W:
1WMrgrfEpJ9HWkWU4azaj4iLSCq3gnyQ1

And you have the private key to the modified privX that is the original + 24 which you can use to sign a dumb message!

Code:

PrivateKey((SHA256("pooya87)) + 24) = 5KivUXF2GxYN4aY9ebpY9Yif4J7VJ3QXyPUB7ozA2HtRf9dm6bK
address = 1JvcCdiQFT7Fogx1ZPkKDqcAooqxi4hEs4

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Craig Wright is a scammer and BSV is a shitcoin.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JvcCdiQFT7Fogx1ZPkKDqcAooqxi4hEs4
AXJDSv4B2XWOmEoDB49evN4CYGl9o1jpXnLcUQ7SeXQyYv4EX+0jJcvW7CZGSlOmmRTd9MA569fuW7WBgj4ICzY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Wanting to acquire more intermediary pubkeys will add more computational complexity but the principle is the same.

[DapanasFruit]

Just goes to show how far the BSV shills can go to try and spread the lies. If Craig had the private Keys to the Bitcoin addresses, Why wouldn't he sign directly from about 5 of them. It doesn't one to have knowledge of Rocket science to do so. As pointed out by odolvlobo, someone already signed a message with pubkeys of the early BTC address using the same procedure. Don't just religiously believe anything you see on the internet.

You ae right. Now, if Craig Wright is the rightful owner of that wallet where a great value of Bitcoin can be found, the best thing to do is to use the private keys and move that Bitcoin thereon to another wallet and maybe even sell some millions to a centralized exchange like Binance and then have everything documented via video. Unfortunately, Craig Wright has proven himself time and time again to be not right but wrong. I don't understand why there remains to be people who are following him and taking his words and actions to be worthy like a crypto leader.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Can you sign a message with that public key?

And the result has been signed. How can one add addresses and sign with the sum/result? I would be grateful if you explained it here with examples.

Sorry, let me rephrase my sayings;

I can generate bunch of addresses whose public keys once summed with satoshi's public key will give you an address whose private key will be known by me.


Using pooya's way:

Take Satoshi's public key:

Code:

x: 678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb6
y: 49f6bc3f4cef38c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f

(1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa)

And a random private key:

Code:

10caf0ec1511da37effb3e4e8de7d217a039e4315a444694af1afccd1073e5a4

Increase the random key by 1 and get:

Code:

10caf0ec1511da37effb3e4e8de7d217a039e4315a444694af1afccd1073e5a5

Public key equal with:

Code:

x: baef4f70d27372f96f5ae699720080fa17a353448af8a67cb49ac7742f31604b
y: a749e7fab667291958f3ddfdbe3c1e739cea5917f04856ddd60f7520ee926fcc

If I substract this one with Satoshi's public key I'll get:

Code:

x: bd0b9e81abc8ed978bc0873b9b5d44e00e889983c60bb722354793df732cb849
y: 1ddce6233aea09569c65b37c2cf6e1dc6d8fb721de29c4abc1053c94c2801b28

(1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W)

Simplified equation:

Code:

Our known public key  - 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa's public key = 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W's public key

Thus, our known public key will be the addition of those two. But, I know the private key of my known public key, it's:

Code:

10caf0ec1511da37effb3e4e8de7d217a039e4315a444694af1afccd1073e5a5

Or in WIF:

Code:

5HwgXfRgFjZayTa3Umv8mNFnWBAbjhcDfVyEjc6RKH6vB5kESnr

With address: 1J2jrkkXrHp3To3VFDo6QVQKhWQt3L7nDG

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Bazinga!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1J2jrkkXrHp3To3VFDo6QVQKhWQt3L7nDG
G0gG9OuK8/7bq9pRnymVJQN4O4VznzXx6Gtoy1IeP/UQNFjIVX9Ujy4VxsdH8M/sfViAHTpno8OVrtTq8iM1aH8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[mynonce]

Rather simple.
You start in reverse meaning instead of adding random public keys to the starting pubkey, you find the final key and then start working your way backwards by subtracting the pub key (of the private key you already have) from the starting public key (which you don't have the private key of).

If I substract this one with Satoshi's public key I'll get:

Code:

x: bd0b9e81abc8ed978bc0873b9b5d44e00e889983c60bb722354793df732cb849
y: 1ddce6233aea09569c65b37c2cf6e1dc6d8fb721de29c4abc1053c94c2801b28

(1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W)

Thank you, I've calculated it with other examples and it works.

But that means, that we still don't have the private key for (1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W) what we publish in the list. So we can say, that if you can sign with (1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W) then you have the private key of Satoshi's key.

[BlackHatCoiner]

So we can say, that if you can sign with (1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W) then you have the private key of Satoshi's key.

Yeah. If you knew the private key of - 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W - you'd be one step far from calculating this sought after Satoshi's address. It's simple elliptic curve maths.

If k₁G + k₂G = k₃G then (k₁ + k₂)G = k₃G  →   k₁ + k₂ = k₃.

Beautiful, isn't it?

[DaveF]

But with all the math being discussed here nobody has come out and said it in this post Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi
Anyone who thinks he is will get scammed and loose money.
With enough time you can come up with a lot of bizarre combinations to give some oddball proof that has no real meaning about addresses & keys.

Now I hand it back to others to continue to discuss the math.

-Dave

[dkbit98]

It looks like that Craig Wright Faketoshi shillers are getting ready for Kleiman Case trial that should start soon (November 1st I think), and I saw they organized some prayer groups for him, because it's a cult with him as their messiah 

[Lucius]

But with all the math being discussed here nobody has come out and said it in this post Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi

I think we shattered that misconception a long time ago, so obviously, no one on the forum sees the need to emphasize this further - he is a pathological liar who uses all legal loopholes to try to prove what will never work.

With enough time you can come up with a lot of bizarre combinations to give some oddball proof that has no real meaning about addresses & keys.

That is true, but we have already proved that Faketoshi is not capable of signing any of the addresses he claims to be his - but on the other hand someone else can do it - what more proof does anyone need?

Code:

"Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't have the keys used to sign this message.

The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity.

Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others.

We are all Satoshi"



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[superbotolo]

That is true, but we have already proved that Faketoshi is not capable of signing any of the addresses he claims to be his - but on the other hand someone else can do it - what more proof does anyone need?

Oh wow, I missed this. Was this sent from one of the BTC addresses allegedly owned by Satoshi, or by some other address that CW said was his?

[iamonlinenow]

So we can say, that if you can sign with (1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W) then you have the private key of Satoshi's key.

Yeah. If you knew the private key of - 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W - you'd be one step far from calculating this sought after Satoshi's address. It's simple elliptic curve maths.

If k₁G + k₂G = k₃G then (k₁ + k₂)G = k₃G  →   k₁ + k₂ = k₃.

Beautiful, isn't it?

... the idea is the same, you keep going backwards (t > h > g > i > r > W > C)...

That means the creator can't sign with the 'r' key, similar to the 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W case.

The creator starts with the signature address
17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L

then calculates the pubkeys for  (t > h > g > i > r > W > C)
but for 'r' =
1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG
the creator doesn't have the private key but can show the public key and the address.

To prove the ownership of satoshi"s private key we would need 2 signatures:
1. for 17mZRodKy5ufNqJVsyKg1bEt81AnRkkh9L (it is posted)
2. for 1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG (not posted)

To the creator:
Post a signature for 1r7VRs5hwFNaqWSMdAGZVoQ7uQhsesRqG

[BlackHatCoiner]

To the creator:

To whom your speak to? Aren't you the one who brought this or just read it somewhere?

That means the creator can't sign with the 'r' key, similar to the 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W case.

This means the creator can't sign from any of the addresses. Only from the one whose public key is equal with the sum of the addresses' public keys. Just think this reasonably; if a malicious guy wanted to prove Craig Wright is Satoshi, why not just give you a signed message from the - 1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF - which supposedly a Satoshi's address?

It'll lure more victims to believe that without writing some bullshit about the second letter of seven addresses.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Oh wow, I missed this. Was this sent from one of the BTC addresses allegedly owned by Satoshi, or by some other address that CW said was his?

The known identity thief CSW submitted a list of addresses to court of coins and addresses he claimed were his but he could not currently access. Then the true owner of a bunch of those addresses signed this message calling him a lying piece of shit.

Just think this reasonably; if a malicious guy wanted to prove Craig Wright is Satoshi, why not just give you a signed message from the - 1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF - which supposedly a Satoshi's address?

I'm not exactly a big fan of Ethereum, but Vitalik said this once about the known liar CSW:

In general, signal theory says if you have a good way of proving something and a noisy way of proving something and you choose the noisy way chances are it's because you couldn't do the good way in the first place.

The good way is to sign a message from 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa, the receiving address for the coinbase transaction of the genesis block. The noisy way is whatever this absolute nonsense is, along with every other fake signature or fake proof the known fraud CSW has provided in the past.

[mynonce]

That means the creator can't sign with the 'r' key, similar to the 1LZtnC7Ck37V9uLGGXFmaVkeaLyzFLvf6W case.

This means the creator can't sign from any of the addresses. Only from the one whose public key is equal with the sum of the addresses' public keys.

If the creator is Satoshi than he can sign with 2 keys. One key is the 'relative' key and the other one the 'absolute' key.

Let me explain it with 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (Satoshi's receiving address for the coinbase transaction of the genesis block).
We assume that the private key for that address is k_Sat=10000. Satoshi creates a 'relative' key with k_rel=100, so the 'absolute' key would have the private key k_abs=10100. He publishes the 2 public keys ('relative' and 'absolute') with signatures and we can check that they are valid and that he is the owner of 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.

In our case (OP) we only have the 'relative' key signature. The second one ('absolute' key signature) is missing.

The good way is to sign a message from 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

why not just give you a signed message from the - 1C7X4UWpSa4GteWHaRBm49fMCC2SNvJQF - which supposedly a Satoshi's address?

Maybe for security reasons. Let's say he wants to communicate with us and wants to sign the messages. For each signature he would need the private key k_Sat. With the above example he could prove it only once and then use the private key k_abs for all signatures. If hacked, he could create a new k_absnew.