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November 13, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
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Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?
You cant cross out the possibilities or chances because when it comes to money then someone could really risk up something or done anything that they haven't done before even if its against on principle but with money then it could really be changed up everytime.

I would like to know as well if there are some source out of those statement above and its true that it couldn't really be proven
out unless if those are really been happening or said.

They are making money out of this arrangement which it is just normal that they would be following up some script.

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.
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November 13, 2021, 09:27:20 PM
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I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue

Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.

But with unproven scripts Grin what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  Roll Eyes but who's the creator of it? hahaha  Grin

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November 13, 2021, 09:40:35 PM
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No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue
I think this is a professional bout and if the promoters are fixing the fight then they will go behind bars, so the idea of having a script is just bullshit theories. It is a fact that Jake and Logan Paul how know to promote a fight and make money.


Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.

But with unproven scripts Grin what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  Roll Eyes but who's the creator of it? hahaha  Grin
No doubt Tommy Fury is the toughest challenge for Jake Paul simply because he is the step brother of Tyson Fury and he will be helping him prepare of the fight and he is a decent boxer and have the ability to defeat Jake Paul.
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November 13, 2021, 09:40:48 PM
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I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue

Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.



If it's Jake Paul who is the one who arranges the fight, then it will be his script and he will be the winner in this fight. They are good actors, they can act like they hate each other just to attract the attention of the viewers and with that, they'll buy the PPV which makes this another successful fight.

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But with unproven scripts Grin what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  Roll Eyes but who's the creator of it? hahaha  Grin
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November 13, 2021, 09:45:39 PM
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy.
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November 13, 2021, 11:51:47 PM
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy.

The problem with betting here is we don't know if this is a pre-arranged fight and they already know who's gonna win even before the fight as it is only exhibition fight. It may even ends up as draw depending on the mood of the judges. So for me, don't bet high because this is not a serious one, you may likely lose your bet for nothing.
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November 14, 2021, 12:56:50 AM
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Before looking on Fury's record, check who he was fighting against Cheesy All of them were punching bags. If Jake fought them, he would have same undefeated record. Check this topic for my posts, I've posted records of Fury opponents there. All of his opponent were boxers with 0-2 wind and 10-120 losses.

Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.
I'm aware with that, my point is many people out there doesn't in depth searching the Fury's opponent so it's why Fury is favorite in this match. MMA and boxing are different thing, this is one reason why Woodley performance are very different. At least Fury know how to fight in boxing and the rules.

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.
Agree, I've search on google but I don't find any source if Woodley has a financial problem... it's only on 2020 and has been resolved.

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November 14, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy.

The problem with betting here is we don't know if this is a pre-arranged fight and they already know who's gonna win even before the fight as it is only exhibition fight. It may even ends up as draw depending on the mood of the judges. So for me, don't bet high because this is not a serious one, you may likely lose your bet for nothing.

This is why we shouldn't bet on exhibition fight since we don't know on how they will end up or how they fight in the ring and I don't expect match between this match up so its better to watch without betting since this is the safest thing we need to do. But if someone want to bet out of thrill then you might be right for betting only with small amount so that if we lose on maybe lousy game we will not get hurt or be stressed about the result.

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November 14, 2021, 01:24:02 PM
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy.

The problem with betting here is we don't know if this is a pre-arranged fight and they already know who's gonna win even before the fight as it is only exhibition fight. It may even ends up as draw depending on the mood of the judges. So for me, don't bet high because this is not a serious one, you may likely lose your bet for nothing.

This is why we shouldn't bet on exhibition fight since we don't know on how they will end up or how they fight in the ring and I don't expect match between this match up so its better to watch without betting since this is the safest thing we need to do. But if someone want to bet out of thrill then you might be right for betting only with small amount so that if we lose on maybe lousy game we will not get hurt or be stressed about the result.

For me, it's still worth betting but I would definitely not gonna risk my usual range of amount.

It's scripted or prearrange, regardless, it's still fun to watch the fight, and maybe let's try betting on the unexpected outcome like the draw because the odds is very attractive. If they'll write a script and they make it an interesting fight, they can make a rematch and that's another money for them.


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November 14, 2021, 02:47:04 PM
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Not that familiar with Tommy Fury I thought he would be fighting Mike Tyson? If that's the case then we know how this match will end, I think it is all just about the money, even he knows that he will easily beat down by Fury but in any case is some bookies would add this event? This is another easy money.

Even if it is going to be easy money both fighters will come up with a good performance, the reason that this kind of exhibition match are patronized because they come up with a good game for an exhibition match just like the last time, I just saw on my social media feed that Tyson Fury is training his brother so he can come out with a great performance, remember the stake is very high for both fighters because of the condition they laid out to each other, they are fighting to retain their surname and their career, so it will be very interesting to all of us.

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Tommy Fury is going to be the one who finally gets the pleasure of shutting this idiot up. I can’t wait to see Jake Paul get KO’d. It’s been a long time coming, finally a proper boxer will be able to do the job.

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November 14, 2021, 05:36:13 PM
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Tommy Fury is going to be the one who finally gets the pleasure of shutting this idiot up. I can’t wait to see Jake Paul get KO’d. It’s been a long time coming, finally a proper boxer will be able to do the job.
Jake paul will never be shut up, this is his niche like his own content and he must have it or is having it pleasurable, I think Jake Paul is popular with this and he might be clowned in the hard hitting sport but he has guts and sure jake paul do train, I think he is dare devil Jake, he picked on Mike tyson, if this happened in Mike tyson prime then Jake Paul would have been shut up, but this fight helps Tommy fury's popularity, not everyone knows what he is about.

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November 14, 2021, 07:27:51 PM
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Tommy Fury is going to be the one who finally gets the pleasure of shutting this idiot up. I can’t wait to see Jake Paul get KO’d. It’s been a long time coming, finally a proper boxer will be able to do the job.
This is the general consensus that Tommy Fury can finally shut Jake Paul and hurt his ego, but the pressure on Tommy Fury will be, he will be in a main event for the first time with millions watching and house full card full of audience and it will create additional pressure on him. It will be a huge pay day for them either way and lets see how this fight goes  Grin.
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November 14, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy.
Going with the crowd is always the best for one to successful in gambling though some time it may not work out that way at some point. Though no one can be optimistic about who will win the fight at the end of the day. Stake to your Tommy(crowds) and let see the outcome at the end of the day.
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November 14, 2021, 11:50:20 PM
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Another match for another hype, it seems that everyone is sharing sentiment about watching Jake Paul to have his KO scene in the match made by Tommy Fury.

Going with the crowd is always the best for one to successful in gambling though some time it may not work out that way at some point. Though no one can be optimistic about who will win the fight at the end of the day. Stake to your Tommy(crowds) and let see the outcome at the end of the day.
Well, there's already optimism that you can see on this thread on who's going to be the dictator on this match and who's going to be knocked out.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 15, 2021, 01:27:34 AM
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Going with the crowd is always the best for one to successful in gambling though some time it may not work out that way at some point. Though no one can be optimistic about who will win the fight at the end of the day. Stake to your Tommy(crowds) and let see the outcome at the end of the day.

Going with the crowd means you will bet on Favorites, right? Is that what you refer to?

If that is, I don't see how you will become successful in gambling there. Favorites always have low odds. To be successful in gambling or at least yield a good profits in return, you have to play with the odds and not just will go with the crowd.

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November 15, 2021, 01:46:21 AM
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I was surprised to see there isn't any discussion happening about this latest ridiculousness from Jake Paul.  It seems there always has to be a gimmick involved when he's fighting.

Personally, I think Tommy Fury is going to knock him out in the first 2 rounds, but I didn't think he'd win the last fight either...

December 18th...

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32504332/jake-paul-fight-fellow-undefeated-boxer-tommy-fury-dec-18-tampa


The 22-year-old boxer and the 24-year-old YouTuber have agreed to get in the ring in Tampa Bay, Florida, on December 18, and Jake claims that Tommy - who is the younger half-brother of heavyweight champion Tyson Fury - will change his name if he loses the fight.

Jake told ESPN: "I offered Fury to change his name to Tommy Fumbles or put up $500,000 of his purse if he loses.

"He chose to agree to change his name. Guess he puts more value on money then he does his own family name. Maybe he knows his family is disowning him once he loses, so money and Molly [Mae-Hague, Tommy's girlfriend] is all he's going to have left."

Earlier this month, Tommy promised to end Jake's career ahead of their fight.

I think it's just a publicity that they agreed to this condition, the fight will eventually end in a draw, they just want to attract more sales with this outrageous condition, this is a stun that WWF or wrestling organizations do to attract more sales and publicity, real boxing fights will not ask or put you in a contract where you will do something like that, so expect these two bums to take you for a ride, I expect the conference and the face-off to be like a circus.

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November 15, 2021, 11:56:56 AM
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I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue

Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.



If it's Jake Paul who is the one who arranges the fight, then it will be his script and he will be the winner in this fight. They are good actors, they can act like they hate each other just to attract the attention of the viewers and with that, they'll buy the PPV which makes this another successful fight.

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If it's Jake Paul who is the one who arranges the fight, then it will be his script and he will be the winner in this fight. They are good actors, they can act like they hate each other just to attract the attention of the viewers and with that, they'll buy the PPV which makes this another successful fight.

Self guess, we never know who's going to get the win, script wise, maybe paul will get this one to increase interest for more
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November 15, 2021, 01:53:32 PM
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Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?

My source is my eyes. I am very familiar with Woodley through UFC. I know how hard can he punch, how can he perform. But what I saw was mostly 1-2 combinations with or without starting jab. And the moment why I thought this fight was scripted, is when Woodley dazed Jake, Jake hang on the ropes, and instead of rushing with series of punches, which could lead to TKO and ref stoppage, Woodley stepped back to the centre of the ring and called Jake to continue fighting. When the fighter feels the blood, he finishes his opponent, he does not call his opponent to continue fighting.

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No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue
I think this is a professional bout and if the promoters are fixing the fight then they will go behind bars, so the idea of having a script is just bullshit theories. It is a fact that Jake and Logan Paul how know to promote a fight and make money.


Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.

But with unproven scripts Grin what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  Roll Eyes but who's the creator of it? hahaha  Grin
No doubt Tommy Fury is the toughest challenge for Jake Paul simply because he is the step brother of Tyson Fury and he will be helping him prepare of the fight and he is a decent boxer and have the ability to defeat Jake Paul.

Of course, the fight is not only between Tommy Fury and Jake Paul, but indirectly the fight will risk Tyson Fury's good name later, I think if Tommy Fury loses that fight, of course it will be very embarrassing for Tyson Fury, especially so far Tyson Fury  has been train Tommy Fury to face Jake Paul in December later, I was quite interested when Tyson Fury told the media, if he will kick and  chase away Tommy Fury out  from of the house and even from his country if he loses from Jake Paul in that fight Grin.

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