1xbit & 888starz

[Haunebu]

I feel this thread is completely unnecessary since you could have simply shared this update on your main thread. Tip: Don't repeat this in the future op.

Coming to the topic itself, you made the right choice by removing those scam sites from your site though they should never have been added in the first place. Both sites have plenty of pending scam accusations against them currently.

[peter0425]

Dear users,

We, www.krypto-oddsen.com, have listened to forum users and removed 1xbit & 888starz and 1xbit from our pages. The intention was not to market and promote pages without focusing on the ethical and reputational, but seen from our own perspective:

1. The casino is licensed
2. The company markets the world's largest football league LaLiga
3. Many sites promote both casinos.
4. For those of us who have tested both deposits, withdrawals (20 US dollars) and games, we had no problems.

But again, thank you that consumer power exists! And thank you for using us!

though i Hate the Idea of creating New topic for this instead of Posting this in your own ANN Thread yet i salute you for listening  to the community as they need to be safer by promoting or welcoming a Scammer sites in your listings.
at least now you know how to handle questionable site and this will never happen again in the future.

Good Job .

[Erdogan]

For me it is strange that the OP was forced to remove its review.
After all, all casinos are checked the same way, right?
So if other casinos have been checked in the same way, it means that all their reviews should be removed as they are wrong(?!).
In my opinion, these reviews should remain as they were made by OP + could add a comment about the opinion of the Bitcointalk community.
In my opinion, that would be the most logical solution.

[acroman08]

For me it is strange that the OP was forced to remove its review.
After all, all casinos are checked the same way, right?
So if other casinos have been checked in the same way, it means that all their reviews should be removed as they are wrong(?!).
In my opinion, these reviews should remain as they were made by OP + could add a comment about the opinion of the Bitcointalk community.
In my opinion, that would be the most logical solution.

both casinos have a bad reputation in the forum that's why members said something about it. OP could have just ignored the suggestions but he didn't. if you have a casino that is not supposed to be on the list you should make a suggestion to the OP and maybe he'll listen to you too.

[Erdogan]

For me it is strange that the OP was forced to remove its review.
After all, all casinos are checked the same way, right?
So if other casinos have been checked in the same way, it means that all their reviews should be removed as they are wrong(?!).
In my opinion, these reviews should remain as they were made by OP + could add a comment about the opinion of the Bitcointalk community.
In my opinion, that would be the most logical solution.

both casinos have a bad reputation in the forum that's why members said something about it. OP could have just ignored the suggestions but he didn't. if you have a casino that is not supposed to be on the list you should make a suggestion to the OP and maybe he'll listen to you too.

I don't mean removing any casino from the list, on the contrary, I think it's a bad idea. Review of each person or website should be independent and objective. If these two reviews are bad then the other reviews are bad as well?
OP made an honest review that disliked the community. In my opinion, he should not follow community pressure, but simply add to his review information/warning that the Bitcointalk community has a different opinion. Thats all.

[acroman08]

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then message the OP that he shouldn't follow what the community says and that reviewing a website that has a long history of bad reputation here in the forum is perfectly fine as long as the review he made to the two gambling sites is completely honest.

[Erdogan]

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then message the OP that he shouldn't follow what the community says and that reviewing a website that has a long history of bad reputation here in the forum is perfectly fine as long as the review he made to the two gambling sites is completely honest.

I would not like to discuss this behind the curtain (in private messages).
 
I believe this is why this thread was created, so maybe OP will read this and consider my opinion as well as other users.

I think my arguments are quite logical, but I also understand why you disagree with them (Do I understand correctly that it is what you are suggesting in your comment?)

[tatibih758]

If any of you have 1xbit account with lost near 3000-5000$ (minus account)
write to telegram :@seller_r, i can rent it for 1 month for 100-150$ pay to you.

[Haunebu]

I don't mean removing any casino from the list, on the contrary, I think it's a bad idea. Review of each person or website should be independent and objective. If these two reviews are bad then the other reviews are bad as well?
OP made an honest review that disliked the community. In my opinion, he should not follow community pressure, but simply add to his review information/warning that the Bitcointalk community has a different opinion. Thats all.

Everyone in this forum can see that you are trying your best to defend 1xbit since you are being paid by them on a regular basis shill which is why most people who have an idea about 1xbit's negative reputation aren't supporting your opinion.

What makes you shameful is the fact that you clearly are aware of 1xbit's negative reputation, but you chose to ignore that and everyone knows why. Am not really surprised since you are a scammer yourself.

[Erdogan]

If any of you have 1xbit account with lost near 3000-5000$ (minus account)
write to telegram :@seller_r, i can rent it for 1 month for 100-150$ pay to you.

I am quoting this as evidence.

Why do you think someone rents debited 1xBit accounts?

For me it is clear that someone needs it in order to multiply complaints and do black PR for 1xBit.

Unless you have any other ideas?

...

Respond to that post please: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58372753#msg58372753

[wxa7115]

Dear users,

We, www.krypto-oddsen.com, have listened to forum users and removed 1xbit & 888starz and 1xbit from our pages. The intention was not to market and promote pages without focusing on the ethical and reputational, but seen from our own perspective:

1. The casino is licensed
2. The company markets the world's largest football league LaLiga
3. Many sites promote both casinos.
4. For those of us who have tested both deposits, withdrawals (20 US dollars) and games, we had no problems.

But again, thank you that consumer power exists! And thank you for using us!

Obviously, you are not doing a proper investigation, you should list casinos based on research and weigh on the accusations, they should not be on your list in the first place, what if there is a visitor of your review site and he joins 1XBIT using your link and he got scammed, you will end up part of the blame for listing site like 1XBIT, you should update your list from time to time.

No one is perfect, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, did they made a mistake by including casinos that have a negative reputation in the forum and which have so much evidence brought against them? I think the answer is yes, especially since this is a website fully dedicated to give insightful reviews.

However they have corrected their mistake and removed them, so as long as they check the rest of their reviews to see if there are not other casinos like this then I think the issue should be settled.

[FatFork]

What makes you shameful is the fact that you clearly are aware of 1xbit's negative reputation, but you chose to ignore that and everyone knows why. Am not really surprised since you are a scammer yourself.

Already a well-known scammer on this forum, so I'm not really surprised by anything that comes from him. Just look at his trust rating. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the other 1xbit shill accounts also come from him, given the fact that he has admitted to selling bumping services.

Guys from Kepler bought from me bumping service - check first 200 pages of ann thread and bounty.
Even after collecting over 1M USD they don't want pay.

[robelneo]

No one is perfect, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, did they made a mistake by including casinos that have a negative reputation in the forum and which have so much evidence brought against them? I think the answer is yes, especially since this is a website fully dedicated to give insightful reviews.

However, they have corrected their mistake and removed them, so as long as they check the rest of their reviews to see if there are not other casinos like this then I think the issue should be settled.

No one is really perfect but you will be blinded if you are a profit-driven review site where the first thing that you will look at is the percentage of your earnings as an affiliate, I'm ok with review sites including their referral link but they should call a spade a spade, it's a very bad alibi because you are forced taking down the review because you are listening to forum users and not investigating the fact.

OP is also spamming this forum for creating three threads to promote your review site, you are not playing fair and breaking the rules.

[nakamura12]

Dear users,

We, www.krypto-oddsen.com, have listened to forum users and removed 1xbit & 888starz and 1xbit from our pages. The intention was not to market and promote pages without focusing on the ethical and reputational, but seen from our own perspective:

1. The casino is licensed
2. The company markets the world's largest football league LaLiga
3. Many sites promote both casinos.
4. For those of us who have tested both deposits, withdrawals (20 US dollars) and games, we had no problems.

But again, thank you that consumer power exists! And thank you for using us!

That is because no research have been made before giving reviews if that site is to bw trust or not. If you see that there are some people who will give good reviews because they are shilling those sites and they are paid to do it just like some streamers that are paid to stream about the gambling site. It's a way to promote their gambling site. It is a good start to listen suggestions from people.

[Erdogan]

What makes you shameful is the fact that you clearly are aware of 1xbit's negative reputation, but you chose to ignore that and everyone knows why. Am not really surprised since you are a scammer yourself.

Already a well-known scammer on this forum, so I'm not really surprised by anything that comes from him. Just look at his trust rating. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the other 1xbit shill accounts also come from him, given the fact that he has admitted to selling bumping services.

Guys from Kepler bought from me bumping service - check first 200 pages of ann thread and bounty.
Even after collecting over 1M USD they don't want pay.

This account was bought from a scammer (not supposed to have a red trust). I have nothing to do with what the previous owner is responsible for.

No matter what my trust is, you may not agree with my opinion anyway. However, you cannot ignore the facts that you can see here. Someone buys 1xbit accounts to do black PR, and it is fact!

[aioc]

What makes you shameful is the fact that you clearly are aware of 1xbit's negative reputation, but you chose to ignore that and everyone knows why. Am not really surprised since you are a scammer yourself.

Already a well-known scammer on this forum, so I'm not really surprised by anything that comes from him. Just look at his trust rating. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the other 1xbit shill accounts also come from him, given the fact that he has admitted to selling bumping services.

Guys from Kepler bought from me bumping service - check first 200 pages of ann thread and bounty.
Even after collecting over 1M USD they don't want pay.

This account was bought from a scammer (not supposed to have a red trust). I have nothing to do with what the previous owner is responsible for.

No matter what my trust is, you may not agree with my opinion anyway. However, you cannot ignore the facts that you can see here. Someone buys 1xbit accounts to do black PR, and it is fact!

That is why selling and buying accounts is discouraged, just because there is a change of ownership the account will not be accountable for any misdeeds that the account has done in the past, it will be a part of that action for the life of that account in this forum

and about

Someone buys 1xbit accounts to do black PR, and it is fact!

you have to prove that or I miss that one on one of your post

[Erdogan]

That is why selling and buying accounts is discouraged, just because there is a change of ownership the account will not be accountable for any misdeeds that the account has done in the past, it will be a part of that action for the life of that account in this forum

That is why my statements are treated as you can see. Well, I have to deal with it.

and about

Someone buys 1xbit accounts to do black PR, and it is fact!

you have to prove that or I miss that one on one of your post

Just check this user posts history and draw your own conclusions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2809729;sa=showPosts

Take a look at how he discussed with the support of Coinroyale and think about what he needs debited 1xbit accounts for..

[Mahanton]

Dear users,

We, www.krypto-oddsen.com, have listened to forum users and removed 1xbit & 888starz and 1xbit from our pages. The intention was not to market and promote pages without focusing on the ethical and reputational, but seen from our own perspective:

1. The casino is licensed
2. The company markets the world's largest football league LaLiga
3. Many sites promote both casinos.
4. For those of us who have tested both deposits, withdrawals (20 US dollars) and games, we had no problems.

But again, thank you that consumer power exists! And thank you for using us!

That is because no research have been made before giving reviews if that site is to bw trust or not. If you see that there are some people who will give good reviews because they are shilling those sites and they are paid to do it just like some streamers that are paid to stream about the gambling site. It's a way to promote their gambling site. It is a good start to listen suggestions from people.

Thats why research is everything when it comes to verifying things specially when you are in doubt which there are things that  you could really find if you do just make out on saving up your ass.

Important things you do really consider on doing first before depositing any money because you wouldnt know if you are dealing with a scam or shady site which would cause some headaches.
You do need on at least your assignment.

[wxa7115]

No one is perfect, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, did they made a mistake by including casinos that have a negative reputation in the forum and which have so much evidence brought against them? I think the answer is yes, especially since this is a website fully dedicated to give insightful reviews.

However, they have corrected their mistake and removed them, so as long as they check the rest of their reviews to see if there are not other casinos like this then I think the issue should be settled.

No one is really perfect but you will be blinded if you are a profit-driven review site where the first thing that you will look at is the percentage of your earnings as an affiliate, I'm ok with review sites including their referral link but they should call a spade a spade, it's a very bad alibi because you are forced taking down the review because you are listening to forum users and not investigating the fact.

OP is also spamming this forum for creating three threads to promote your review site, you are not playing fair and breaking the rules.

And I agree, this is why review sites most of the time are not worth consulting because they have a conflict of interests, on one hand their purpose is to give honest reviews to their readers, but on the other they need to make money and it is not difficult to imagine a dishonest casino trying to pay the owner of the review site in order to receive a more favorable review.

And when that happens the whole purpose of the review site is forfeited, which is why I prefer to read reviews of real users in the forum as the majority of them are just sharing their experiences playing at a casino without any hidden motive.