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November 05, 2021, 06:20:43 AM |
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I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.
It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish. this is indeed good to make at least those who experience hunger a little helped by it. but to overcome hunger by giving nominal I don't think it's a solution. because it seems that hunger will always exist even if this is done because there is no absolute guarantee that it will be evenly distributed, besides that with something like this it is only possible to make hunger at least stop for some time after that there will definitely be more hunger in every region. it would probably be great if we focused on giving people who don't have jobs a chance to be empowered. because with things like giving help to people who are under poverty maybe they will be happy and will always hope that it continues so they don't want to change themselves.
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November 05, 2021, 06:22:39 AM |
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I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.
It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so. The problem of world hunger has existed for a long time and until now it has not been completely resolved, because it is not easy to solve world hunger. Especially with the pandemic, I believe the number of hungry people in the world is increasing. I agree this is the job of all of us who have extra money, in order to help hungry people. Actually helping starving people is not effective only to provide financial aid or food, but skills training must be provided so that these hungry people have skills and can make money. The main problem of world hunger, because they don't understand how to make money other than working for other people. I prefer if people starve because they have no income, are taught to be entrepreneurs, so the opportunity to make money does not only depend on working in the company.
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November 05, 2021, 06:56:20 AM |
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Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger? How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?
I feel like there is some confusing about this all because I was also surprised with this news just $6 Billion is going to end World hunger it's very less amount and this can do for just one or two days not for long enough time. We are already doing this all for many decades, but it is not possible because of many issues and regional problems also having impact on this all. We have to do some political decisions because some countries are unbelievably corrupt, their system is not allowing big communities to rise and have some good way of life, so it's just needed some better education and many political and regional guidelines with some good amount of money.
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November 05, 2021, 08:47:38 AM |
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Maybe those money they are going to donate might even reduce the hunger of some people but charity might be better instead of waiting. If we have something that might help other people to relieve their hunger then why not give them open arms. Let's help not wait.
I think the people who are really desperate with food will do anything. Elon tweeted this to the chief of WFP And it's just something that would be an eye-opener to those who don't have anything but can't help do anything about it. It's about time to do something and help them.
Food isn't enough for these to solve their starvation. What they need is knowledge. Knowledge that will help them. Spend some money to share some knowledge and that might help them. Well, I agree though that this $6B will save some people from starvation.
I do agree with this since, with education, they can do whatever is necessary for them to continue living. It's not going to be easy but they need to. They shouldn't get used to the fact that there would be someone who would be willing to give them anything for free.
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November 05, 2021, 08:50:01 AM |
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in my religion, people must give 2.5% every year to the poor to improve their daily or whatever it is. and the fact, there some story tell that people who actually must get this portion, no longer entitled after some of year, and no poor people in there. its about how good people, giver and receiver. how good they are to make their money fill theirbdaily life.
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November 05, 2021, 10:40:48 AM |
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In my opinion, such amount of money will only temporarily ease world hunger but it's not gonna solve it permanently. Lack of money is not the real cause of poverty, but rather it is the lack of opportunity and corrupt governance of governments and its local units. Donating large amount of money is useless and it will turn out to be a waste specially if there's a lot of leech in the place we are living.
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November 05, 2021, 11:08:49 AM |
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Statistics on paper is prone to error and those value quoted by UN might not be accurate. Since ElonMusk gave them the surprise reply, I haven't heard from them. Every part of the world today is accumulated by the population of poor people who are struggling every day to feed, I wonder how they intend $6billion to cure hunger except if they plan to do just a single day feeding which will not be significant in my opinion.
Every countries has that richest person with $$, let them stand up and cure hunger, it will reduce hunger drastically instead of one person.
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November 05, 2021, 11:37:25 AM |
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I will just write something related to my previous post. Of course, $6 billion cannot feed all the hungry of the world, the story is completely taken out of context and it is about helping the 40 million people hardest hit by the pandemic, supply chain disruption, and inflation. But if we take that amount ($6 billion) and divide it by the $20 it takes for one child to get one hot meal every day at school, we come up with a number of as many as 300 million children who wouldn’t be completely hungry in one year. This is not only important from the perspective of someone being hungry, but it has already been proven that parents in poor countries send their children to school if they can get a hot meal there - and this results in more educated people who will no longer need someone else's help to survive. But I argue once again that we should not expect people like Musk or Bezos to change the world, but that each of us can do it personally. An example of how one man can change the world for the better can be seen in Rwanda, where he did amazing things precisely because he focused on children, from whom he made the pillars of society.
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November 05, 2021, 12:40:21 PM |
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I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.
It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish. this is indeed good to make at least those who experience hunger a little helped by it. but to overcome hunger by giving nominal I don't think it's a solution. because it seems that hunger will always exist even if this is done because there is no absolute guarantee that it will be evenly distributed, besides that with something like this it is only possible to make hunger at least stop for some time after that there will definitely be more hunger in every region. it would probably be great if we focused on giving people who don't have jobs a chance to be empowered. because with things like giving help to people who are under poverty maybe they will be happy and will always hope that it continues so they don't want to change themselves. We acknowledge and salute them that helps to reduce world hunger but having such aim to solve the problem, that money isn't really enough. It's not all about the amount of people that can be fed with that 6 billion dollars but it's about what it can do to change a lot of lives. I think these people and social workers should look at that perspective aside from just feeding them all at once. How long will that amount sustain them feeding for those who are in need? That amount will eventually be gone and will also be lessen before it probably go to the receivers if there are corrupt officials.
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November 05, 2021, 02:10:48 PM |
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Wow, I never new he is a philanthropist able to think of donating such amount to save the world from proverty. This is obviously outrageous. My question here is that; What is the probability that such amount can save the world from proverty? Is he ready to donate such an high amount of money? How will the money be implemented if donated?
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November 05, 2021, 02:18:05 PM |
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That will never be enough. According to current figures, about 1-1.2 billion people suffer acutely from hunger or are at high risk of hunger. Another 1 billion or so are at risk of hunger, not acutely, but as soon as the economy is not doing well. This means that there are about 2-2.2 billion people for whom a permanent solution must be found. If you now put the 6 billion USD, then that would be about $3 per hungry person. Everyone can see that this will never be enough to get the people permanently out of hunger poverty.
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November 05, 2021, 02:23:14 PM |
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I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars? Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee. What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions. Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.
It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so. The problem of world hunger has existed for a long time and until now it has not been completely resolved, because it is not easy to solve world hunger. Especially with the pandemic, I believe the number of hungry people in the world is increasing. I agree this is the job of all of us who have extra money, in order to help hungry people. Actually helping starving people is not effective only to provide financial aid or food, but skills training must be provided so that these hungry people have skills and can make money. The main problem of world hunger, because they don't understand how to make money other than working for other people. I prefer if people starve because they have no income, are taught to be entrepreneurs, so the opportunity to make money does not only depend on working in the company. With the pandemic still appearing in almost all countries, it makes the government think twice to solve the world hunger as they still focus to solve the pandemic before it is too late. But I am sure that the government have a plan to do something for that person who suffers because of the pandemic and hunger problem. At least, if we can share food with them, they can eat something and then, we can ask them to join us to get training that can improve their skills to search for a job. If people can open their minds to learn something to have skills that can help them to make money, they will have a chance to create a new job and solve their problem and help other people.
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November 05, 2021, 02:57:03 PM |
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If rich people want to eliminate the hunger from this world then its certainly possible but I don't think this will happen in the long run, only rich people will exist as long as there are poor people who will be ready to give their effort to make your boss rich. Probably just for a publicity stunt and Elon is famous at doing with free of cost by tweets.
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November 05, 2021, 02:58:35 PM |
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Based on this article [1] there're 811 million people worldwide still lack of food, so 6 billion/811 million is $7,39. I don't think with such amount will solve world hunger or even Musk give more money, still it doesn't resolve the cause of world hunger. Lack of skills, poor money management, bad income distribution or lazy are the cause of world hunger. Teach a man to fish, rather than give fish.
[1] https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/world-hunger-facts-statisticsIt can't solve world hunger buy it can help even a little especially this time of pandemic that many people lost their job. There will be no disappearance of poverty and the poor, just in case it will cause an imbalance in the economy. People need to work just to live and not just to rely on others like what you have said. Everyone need to works base on their skills and capability. But is also good if we can help them as much as we can.
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November 05, 2021, 03:35:37 PM |
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From a humanitarian perspective, I think Elon deserve respect because he has a desire to save million of starving souls. It is clear that the amount to be used for charity may not be sufficient for everyone who deserve it, but at least it can help. It is highly unlikely that Elon will be responsible for helping million of people who have been starving for month because I think it is the countries and government of the world that should be held accountable for that. Even if Elon later decided to invest $6 billion of his money to help, it would only alleviate the hunger afflicting million of people and not solve it.
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It's a bluff, a smart one, rather. WFP couldn't possibly create any plan to end world hunger, it's all theatrics to demonize the rich. They've taken on more than 6 billion in funds throughout the organization's existence, yet they're requesting for even more money to solve problems they don't have any solutions to. Throwing money at a problem does not solve it, and if it did, I'd hope the WFP would attempt to at least raise funds from other nations instead of looking at a private individual to bankroll their useless plans. Expect Musk's proposal to go no where, the WFP aren't serious.
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Have you read the latest news? "Elon Musk is ready to sell his Tesla shares to donate $6 billion".( source). This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).
In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine. If interpreted based on google data, that number is only about 2% of the total value of Musk's wealth. What do you think, Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger? How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective? Elon is not selling his assets to donate $6 billion, it was simply a rhetorical answer to a UN official who claimed to have some magic formula for ending world hunger and that a billionaire like him could solve it overnight. Elon gets to look like a hero by countering this ludicrous claim that such a low amount of money is a magic bullet to stop something that has plagued mankind for centuries. The UN official gets some free publicity for their cause but really looks rather silly to anyone with an ounce of intelligence who would know that having a big pot of money (which is tiny in practice) does not instantly solve this problem which has all sorts of reasons and causes.
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November 05, 2021, 06:36:38 PM |
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You don't end world hunger by donating food: you just delay it. There's a saying (a meme, actually) that goes "Poverty's antidote is not money: it's education." As long as you keep sending food to the indigent, they will keep being miserable. You feed them today, and they'll be hungry again tomorrow. But if you invest in education and feed them, you will create the foundation for a better society in the future. And it doesn't take such an ungodly amount of money either, it just takes the commitment of people helping people for the right reasons, not just as a tax write-off or a PR stunt.
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November 05, 2021, 06:48:31 PM |
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I think the people who are really desperate with food will do anything. Elon tweeted this to the chief of WFP And it's just something that would be an eye-opener to those who don't have anything but can't help do anything about it. It's about time to do something and help them. Hahaa, someone important wants to reveal something here. He began to suspect a lot of things about the UN. Looks like the donation will fail, unfortunately. $6 billion apparently not only gives a hungry person a little hope, but also makes full people hungry. Even $6 trillion won't eradicate hunger. UN World Food Program ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FFDYLmjmX0AMYH0f%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall&t=665&c=XdeUNOe3Q4ZW5A) Seems that way. Publishing their transaction ledger would clarify matters.
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November 05, 2021, 09:07:00 PM |
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Have you read the latest news? "Elon Musk is ready to sell his Tesla shares to donate $6 billion".( source). This comes in response to a tweet made by David Beasley, director of the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP).
In his tweet, Beasley had mentioned the $36 billion increase in Musk’s net worth after Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas. He added that one-sixth of this increase, which is $6 billion, could help save 42 million people who are suffering from famine. If interpreted based on google data, that number is only about 2% of the total value of Musk's wealth. What do you think, Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger? How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective? Just money won't solve world hunger problem. You need to provide them with a proper framework so that those people suffering can end the world hunger themselves alone. And look at those countries where hunger is wide spread. Those countries are politically unstable and filled with corrupted governments. Who knows what is going to happen to the money Elon sends them. I have sure the top leaders are going to pocket like most of the donations like they always do and Elon knows this very well.
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