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November 04, 2021, 01:26:42 PM
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Did many saw this tweet coming from Elon Musk himself??
https://twitter.com/jjohnson_says/status/1455164965027975171/photo/1

He said to that if WFP can describe and can publicly share the distribution of how the fund will be spent then he will immediately sell his Tesla Stock to fulfill what they've said.

With the articles that I read, the WFP chief said

$6B will not solve world hunger, but it WILL prevent geopolitical instability, mass migration and save 42 million people on the brink of starvation. An unprecedented crisis and a perfect storm due to Covid/conflict/climate crises.

I do hope that it happens, at least, millions of people would be saved and I hope it can be maintained with the efforts of the program. I hope they would be transparent with everyone like an open ledger type thing like in cryptocurrencies.
Well, they seconded what they've said because what they said was wrong and impossible. Expected Cheesy.

Anyway, $6B will help at least some people to at least have some food for some days. Give kids education to work. Give kids chance to work and learn something. That might help the world hunger because there are countries who are staying poor because of lack of education. Food isn't enough for these to solve their starvation. What they need is knowledge. Knowledge that will help them. Spend some money to share some knowledge and that might help them. Well, I agree though that this $6B will save some people from starvation.

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November 04, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
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I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.
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November 04, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
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No amount of money can solve world hunger or lift poor in their conditions. Elon's response is too cunning on the tweet. The question is "HOW".

Even the richest men chips in for a cause for the hunger, if the one who handles the funds 'til to the lower bracket is irresponsible as we all know corruption is too evident in the lower column (weii, even on world/intl. orgs behind), it will still not work. Not unless they are fully transparent as Elon's said (from the transfer of fund, documents and the distribution)

Lack of funding is not the cause of this suffering, it's all about who and how the works behind, it's all about corruption.
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November 04, 2021, 04:05:36 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2021, 04:17:47 PM by Jaycee99
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It is possible it could. From what I learned anything is possible when it comes to the ideas and thought of one person.

Sadly when I search about this topic on google and it gave me this How Much Would It Cost To End World Hunger?

Reading this gave a perspective that now it could somehow maybe call out all billionaires it could happen to solve it ASAP.

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Estimates of how much money it would take to end world hunger range from $7 billion to $265 billion per year.

Happily, it's talking about a year to feed people not help people work so it should be more than $6 billion or more to $265 to end world hunger for eternity.

My thoughts are...


We need food to survive we also need jobs to make money and survive. Specifically, it's not just about the money it's about people gaining knowledge to take care of our earth for we all know our foods came from mother nature.  
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November 04, 2021, 04:35:49 PM
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What is the real number then? I mean is there even a specific number? If it is not 6 billion then would 60 billion work? Would 600 billion work? We had USA printing 2+ trillion dollars twice in the past 2 years, what would happen with 4 trillion dollars? Would that solve world hunger? We had that and nothing too grand happened for USA economy, sure it is not great but it is not at the brink of poverty neither. Which means maybe USA could print enough money to solve world hunger forever and they would be able to not get impacted a lot from it as well?

None of that would work, the reality is that world hunger is a manmade thing, if all those dictators and political parties and so forth didn't let it be then we would not have any world hunger. Money is not the issue, you could have unlimited amount of money and still wouldn't be enough, how are you going to solve the starvation problem in North Korea if they won't allow you? Or how would you stop a dictatorship if you keep giving them food constantly to feed it is people and affectively making them more powerful? All in all, money could solve "some" world hunger problems, but not all of them, only a small portion of it.

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November 04, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
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From a humanitarian perspective, this is an outrageous injustice and an inhumane phenomenon. How can one person own all these billions of dollars while millions around the world are dying of starvation? We are not talking here about the minimum required to live with human dignity!!! Rather, we are talking about the minimum required to survive only, millions of people in Africa and third world countries are unable to feed their children while 2% of Musk's wealth is enough to feed 42 million hungry!!!! What a truly painful human paradox!!!
As for the economic perspective, this does not matter, because the economy is not built on morals, but is built on benefit and interest only!!! Elon Musk has achieved great economic success and amassed billions so he can proudly brag in front of the cameras that he is ready to donate $6 billion to feed the hungry!!! But do you really donate??!!! Do they just need donations??!!!

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November 04, 2021, 04:43:09 PM
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What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
Elon is wise enough by any statement, see the conclusion "only if the United Nations is transparent".  It is clearly a test against the rest by the marks of doubt.  Certainly many people will compare that act to Jeff, but I like the way Elon shows it.  Transparency is needed and the masks must be unambiguously removed for the chaos on the brink of anything involved.

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November 04, 2021, 05:01:19 PM
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Solving hunger is possible, but it's not a financial issue. AFAIK, we overproduce food on the global level, with estimates being that enough food is produced to feed 10 billion people. But in wealthy places there's a lot of food waste on various levels, from an average US household wasting 30% of its food to UK supermarkets wasting what equals 190 million meals each year. The problem is not of the lack of production of resources. It's terrible distribution and also huge geographic inequality where some countries produce way more than they need and others don't produce enough. It's important to support efforts that provide food to those who need it, but to truly end hunger, big political decisions have to be made because some countries are unbelievably corrupt, so no amount of money being poured into the hands of their elites is enough to make a difference to the people who live in poverty.

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November 04, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
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I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.
Elon Musk has set his sights on becoming a great man and marked a page in history with these actions, his money right now will go to the best purposes to gain everyone's recognition, although 6 billion cannot solve hunger completely but it is still very abundant to help disadvantaged people endure after the pandemic as well as economic failure. With this pioneering, many more generous people will follow, but in general, the organizations and recipients of this fund should also aim for long-term good things like training and finding more work, too free only multiply laziness

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November 04, 2021, 06:45:08 PM
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Stupid enough decision. Remember the history of the creation of the USSR - "take away from the rich and give to the poor." OK. Made. And if before that the country had a certain stratum of the rich, a significant stratum of the middle class, and a small stratum of the poor (who, by the way, were supported by both the rich and the middle class), then after the division of material wealth, they got a full country of beggars, who decided that everyone owes them everything.

It seems more logical to me - for this money to build really useful production, to give people jobs, to fill the country with taxes. One working in a normal company, in a poor country, can support 2-3 more people. And this will be DEVELOPMENT and not TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF THE PROBLEM.
Believe me - even 6 billion dollars can be eaten very quickly and absolutely mediocre ... Think about the real prospects for development and solving the problem of poverty, and not about stuffing your stomach every second.

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November 04, 2021, 08:45:39 PM
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No amount of money can solve world hunger or lift poor in their conditions. Elon's response is too cunning on the tweet. The question is "HOW".

Even the richest men chips in for a cause for the hunger, if the one who handles the funds 'til to the lower bracket is irresponsible as we all know corruption is too evident in the lower column (weii, even on world/intl. orgs behind), it will still not work. Not unless they are fully transparent as Elon's said (from the transfer of fund, documents and the distribution)

Lack of funding is not the cause of this suffering, it's all about who and how the works behind, it's all about corruption.
Indeed!

There's no such fund amount could solve out world hunger but at least this amount could really help tons at least.This does really shows off that there's
still hope for humanity and this might be an eye opener for those billionaires out there to do the same which at least make out some significant movement
towards on fighting this global problem.

This isnt something that you could just resolve out on few billions but still a great and good move done by Elon which do at least shows
that he cares.

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November 04, 2021, 08:46:48 PM
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What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?
I am not sure how they got the value of $6 billion to solve world hunger, if it was that easy then it would have been sorted out long back and these numbers are made up to serve the purpose and nothing else.

I am not doing any research or calculation but from top of my mind i can say that you need an estimated around $100 billion per year to feed everyone globally who is living under poverty. Even if you do that for an year how anyone is going to solve the hunger issue forever if you are not able to spent that much amount every year for infinite years Tongue .
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November 04, 2021, 10:04:10 PM
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$6 Billion to solve world hunger is far-fetched. I don't think that figure is even enough to cover logistics + the food itself on a certain region. That UN guy who made that tweet is just dragging the name of the organization down due to his impulsive statements on the matter. And of course, Elon is ready to take a bite for the clout and to also prove a point. What people need aren't handouts, but actual jobs, sustainable lifestyle and developed economies for them to keep their mouths fed. UN doesn't really address that, though at the least, they are making an effort to alleviate the hunger of some of the poverty-stricken countries while they still have the machinery.

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November 04, 2021, 10:23:02 PM
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What do you think,
Does it really only take 2% of musk's wealth to solve world hunger?
How do we assess this phenomenon based on its purpose, from a humanity or economic perspective?
I am not sure how they got the value of $6 billion to solve world hunger, if it was that easy then it would have been sorted out long back and these numbers are made up to serve the purpose and nothing else.

I am not doing any research or calculation but from top of my mind i can say that you need an estimated around $100 billion per year to feed everyone globally who is living under poverty. Even if you do that for an year how anyone is going to solve the hunger issue forever if you are not able to spent that much amount every year for infinite years Tongue .
Dont know on where they do get that calculation because basing up on the entire world population then it cant really be known into those family or individual which are out of radar or statistics which means calculating on precise manner would be impossible and also 6 billion wont really be enough
on solving world hunger and same as others said that it is better rather than not making any steps at all.

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November 04, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
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Reposting this for proper context since it looks like many have missed it.

The media, and EM itself, have misunderstood what WFP Director David Beasley said - it's not that $6 billion can solve world hunger, it's a drop in the ocean of real needs - because at least half of the world's people don't have enough food. He stated the following :

Beasley said that a combination of COVID-19, regional conflicts and climate crises has led to more than 40 million people being on the brink of starvation and that billionaires could give $6 billion to ease the crisis.


I don't know if some of the media misunderstood or they simply twisted what the Director said to bait many people for clicks and engagement.

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November 04, 2021, 11:09:19 PM
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I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars?  Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values ​​are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee.  What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions.  Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.

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November 04, 2021, 11:59:07 PM
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I don't think that could completely eliminate the world hunger but to be honest, that would really help a lot. It will take a long time to solve that world problem because we couldn't end it by giving a single meal but by continuous feeding. Providing temporary food is just a temporary solution. However, Elon's generosity in case that's true should be something to be thankful for because 6 billion is already a huge amount of funds.
It will help a lot but these people who sees a specific amount to end a problem that has been there since the ancient days are joking around. They're just projecting a value that might end hunger but in reality, there are more problems that will exist after doing that. Famine/hunger has been there for a long time and it's not going to solve it as exact as what they're speculating and projecting. What they must do is to use that money to provide jobs and build better projects that will sustain these people for the longer term. They only look at the short term solution and it's not really enough IMHO. Just like the very known quote about feeding and teaching to fish.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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But in wealthy places there's a lot of food waste on various levels, from an average US household wasting 30% of its food to UK supermarkets wasting what equals 190 million meals each year. The problem is not of the lack of production of resources. It's terrible distribution and also huge geographic inequality where some countries produce way more than they need and others don't produce enough.

Oh, again the rich western world which is wasting food, the inequality, the western elitist who don't think about the others:

India Wasted Over 68 Million Tons Of Food In 2019: UN Report

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The household food waste estimate in the US is 59 kg per capita per year, or 19,359,951 tonnes a year, while for China these estimates are 64 kg per capita per year or 91,646,213 tonnes a year. In India, the household food waste estimate is 50 kg per capita per year, or 68,760,163 tonnes a year.

India and China waste more than twice the food than North America and Europe combined.

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Money is not the most important issue to solve this, we should see it as a tool to help life. Poverty will continue and will not stop as long as people are still attached to the material, I think it belongs to the spiritual body when people are not interested or satisfied with it, they will recognize it simply. A lot of money is only money if it doesn't create value other than numbers, I like the way Elon uses money to make his mission to Mar because it's really great, we don't have to try to fix it. Accept what we've created as wrong, instead just think of it as a must for a life we ​​haven't envisioned.

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November 05, 2021, 05:43:42 AM
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I think the world hunger problem will be solved simply with 6 billion dollars?  Lol, in today's hyperinflation, values ​​are meant to confirm and explicitly claim the funding for this charity will not guarantee.  What if those 6 billion will be offered to them all 100% the same or if those numbers will be masked by other oppressions.  Everything is just trust in the United Nations and the government.
It is not easy to solve world hunger in many countries because we still face the pandemic and it is not showing ends until now. The country needs to focus to solve this pandemic before they can move to the next target and solve it. But solving world hunger is not just a job for the government but for all people who can help each other and give them food. In this pandemic, it is better to help people so we can see pandemic ends so.

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