Is "Scam accusation" board utilizing effectively?

[RapTarX]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam. I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this. I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.
If I'm correct on the above statement, can someone point out where's the need of creating such threads? If I'm nlt correct, please point out who are getting benefitted from that threads?
This is not a personal attack. I have been noticing this for a quite long time and I realized that such kinda threads really help no one.

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[bL4nkcode]

I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.

That means there are no scams regarding/towards forum users that needs attention of DTs or the community which is actually good.

If you want more drama towards forum users, check reputation boards

I have been noticing this for a quite long time and I realized that such kinda threads really help no one.

Most threads on scam accusation boards is tend to help newbies to avoid getting scammed in the future, and have knowledge on different kind of scammed sites/user's experience/schemes etc. Threads might be repetitive but it helps a lot, maybe not for bitcointalk users but anyone who search in google as those threads will show up on google pages, so don't assume that it helps no one.

[_BlackStar]

If the thread are started by the same user for different finds then he should be advised to update them all in just one thread for example ^{[update list of airdrop scam]} because I think one thread already represents all of them without having to create a different thread each time he catches it. Basically the airdrop will only benefit cheaters and shitcoin owners without too much impact on the community. There's no benefit to the topic opener although sometimes he also has the opportunity to earn merit.

[JeromeTash]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam.

What is wrong with warning people about a certain airdrop or phishing scam?

I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this. I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.

You think it's only Bitcointalk users who benefit from the warnings?
You are wrong. Even guest users who have never registered in the forum can see the warnings if they tried to use the search engines.

If I'm correct on the above statement, can someone point out where's the need of creating such threads? If I'm nlt correct, please point out who are getting benefitted from that threads?

Any person who tries to carry out due diligence benefits. It doesn't have to benefit only you.

I realized that such kinda threads really help no one.

That's what you think.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You are wrong. Even guest users who have never registered in the forum can see the warnings if they tried to use the search engines.

Hopefully that's true, though I've seen plenty of scam accusations opened by brand new members who obviously did not see any warning signs originating from bitcointalk before they got scammed by [pick your choice of project/exchange/business] that had numerous threads dedicated to them being scammers. 

I even checked what the search results pulled up for "1xbit" and IIRC all of the top results were links to the site itself or positive reviews and so forth.  There weren't any red flags that showed up in at least the first two pages of search results.

Part of me agrees with OP that the Scam Accusation section really ought to focus on scams involving the forum, whether it's between members or concerning a project with a presence on bitcointalk that's scammed people (like bounty hunters, for instance).  But the other part of me does agree with JeromeTash that accusations against crypto-related scammers do serve a useful function not only to our community but the crypto community as a whole (though I have my doubts as to the effectiveness concerning the latter).

[Upgrade00]

I would vote to get rid of the "I was messaged on telegram by so and so scammer" or "YouTube giveaway scam", posts as they are generic, they could however be useful in warning newbies of the tactics used by Internet scammers. Most people on here would be pretty used to such scam techniques, but it doesn't hurt to put it out there every once in a while. So, maybe I wouldn't vote for that either.

There's no info on the scam accusation board so no one can determine what fits there or what doesn't, it just needs to be related to a scam and should ideally follow the reporting format which is stickied on that board.

[NotATether]

Most people on here would be pretty used to such scam techniques....

That is false. As you can see, time and time again, people regularly get duped by impostors on Telegram.

[Findingnemo]

Certainly people can save themselves with such threads like a Google search made related to that airdrop will give that scam accusations threads as a result, maybe a childboard can solve the issue you are talking about but taking down airdrop scam threads will encourage scammers to do it more.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Are you serious? Is this topic useless?
In this case, you allow all sorts of scam announcements, which have been multiplying for some time and have attracted investors. But only thanks to this topic, many scammers were exposed. Scam projects are afraid to declare themselves on the forum, since the creators, changing their tactics, were caught several times. And today I meet less and less what happened here a few years ago.
A simple suggestion for you, if something annoys you, or you don't like it, there is an "ignore" button.

[JohnBitCo]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam. I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this. I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.
If I'm correct on the above statement, can someone point out where's the need of creating such threads? If I'm nlt correct, please point out who are getting benefitted from that threads?
This is not a personal attack. I have been noticing this for a quite long time and I realized that such kinda threads really help no one.

If people won't post these stuff on the scam accusation board, then what should be actually required on that thread ? If any airdrop/ bounty site scam you, it is good that you post it there so others are save at least.
You can argue that people post there in order to get merits but then whats wrong in giving merit to those who have found something which is benefit for the community.

[Upgrade00]

Most people on here would be pretty used to such scam techniques....

That is false. As you can see, time and time again, people regularly get duped by impostors on Telegram.

That amount doesn't quite account for majority here on the forum. Many of the active users here would have come across a post or two about telegram scams and not replying to unsolicited messages, but there would always be users who would still fall for it.
I also added that it would be useful to put the warning out there as it could still save users who are oblivious.

[SFR10]

I've seen plenty of scam accusations opened by brand new members who obviously did not see any warning signs originating from bitcointalk before they got scammed

Most of them probably haven't done any/enough research ^{[bitcointalk isn't the only forum/platform that warns users about such scams]}.

I even checked what the search results pulled up for "1xbit" and IIRC all of the top results were links to the site itself or positive reviews and so forth.  There weren't any red flags that showed up in at least the first two pages of search results.

Depending on "a few things", results may vary from person to person...

• I've got the following results while using the incognito mode in Chrome: Video link

@RapTarX
If any of those threads save a single person from getting scammed, they've served their purpose!

[LoyceV]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam.

What is wrong with warning people about a certain airdrop or phishing scam?

Unless the scam is being promoted on Bitcointalk, I think it's pointless to warn people here against random site X. People who visit the scam site through external links won't see the warning, and people who see the warning weren't going to visit the site in the first place.

There are thousands if not millions of scams outside Bitcointalk, and only 36 topics on the first page of Scam Accusations. Let's make those 36 count!

Even guest users who have never registered in the forum can see the warnings if they tried to use the search engines.

Maybe I have lower expectations from people who fall for obvious scams. I always assume the obvious victims are blinded by greed and lose all common sense. I just assume "bounties" are spamming scammers and stay away from them.
Rhetorical: Should we be creating topics for search engines, instead of for people?

[Igebotz]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam. I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this. I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.

Is it safe to assume that no one from the Bitcointalk community has benefited from the uncovered scam sites and bogus airdrop threads? I'm not sure, but during the few times I was active on that board, I exposed a lot of scam and phishing sites, which was helpful at the time. I also received messages from random users asking for more explanations. It may not be useful to you, but there are a lot of crypto newbies out there who could use it.

If I'm correct on the above statement, can someone point out where's the need of creating such threads? If I'm nlt correct, please point out who are getting benefitted from that threads?

My thread helped this user and his community and so many I do not want to quote here.

Thank you for this one, been meaning to find a good list that I can send to my friends since they are just newbies and I don't want them to fall for these scams hopefully. Are they confirmed scams though? Just making sure before I send the link of this thread to them.

This is not a personal attack. I have been noticing this for a quite long time and I realized that such kinda threads really help no one.

No scam exposed thread is useless its serves a great purpose.

[DaveF]

...I even checked what the search results pulled up for "1xbit" and IIRC all of the top results were links to the site itself or positive reviews and so forth.  There weren't any red flags that showed up in at least the first two pages of search results....

And that is the issue. We all know 1xbit is a scam.
Just about everyone here on the forum knows they are a scam.

There were people who have been on the forum for a while who were still scammed by them and people from all the over internet are still being scammed.
No matter how many scam reports there are here.
BUT....
The hands off 'we don't moderate scams' attitude may make the mods / theymos life easier.
It may even make certain other parts of running this forum easier if it comes to defending it in a legal setting.
SO...
This means that in one section there are pages of people saying they got ripped off by them.
In another there are pages saying they are a good casino.

So yeah, this means that those scam reports are worthless to a certain extent.

As for the tokens / altcoins / telegram giveaways / etc.
Yeah, short of nuking them all there is nothing that is going to change since everyone wants some of that magic free internet money.

-Dave

[Lucius]

I think you are guided by the idea of "forum does not moderate scam", so why should forum users protect themselves and others from scams? I'm sure your thinking is shared by all scammers who would be very happy if that board didn't exist (I'm not implying that you're one of them), but I'm pretty sure it will never happen.

I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this.

If that board seems boring to you, don't visit it or ignore it, you wouldn't believe how simple it is

[Pmalek]

I would vote to get rid of the "I was messaged on telegram by so and so scammer" or "YouTube giveaway scam", posts as they are generic...

I am not a frequent visitor of the scam accusations board but I wouldn't vote for getting rid of anything there. Sure, it might sometimes be repetitive, but since the forum has a "we don't moderate scams" policy, I would support any threads and boards where people are made aware of them. 

Most people on here would be pretty used to such scam techniques...

There are still way to many people who believe that Elon will send them 2 BTC if they send him 1.

...and should ideally follow the reporting format which is stickied on that board.

Few people do unfortunately.

[examplens]

Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam.

What is wrong with warning people about a certain airdrop or phishing scam?

Unless the scam is being promoted on Bitcointalk, I think it's pointless to warn people here against random site X. People who visit the scam site through external links won't see the warning, and people who see the warning weren't going to visit the site in the first place.

Bitcointalk.org has a very high domain authority, so everything that is written here, search engines must take into account. if it happens to a beginner u^{nfortunately, many of them do not even do any pre-investment checks}, to actually do a check and research before investing it is very likely that they will get some results from this forum. It is one of the strengths of the forum itself.

I have thought many times about a site dedicated to all kinds of scams, but it requires too much time and work. too much for volunteer work and very difficult for monetization ^{who wants to promote themselves among the scam}

I certainly understand what the OP wanted to emphasize, and I support any initiative to put this in order a bit. at this rate, we have a ton of information so it is logical that they seem useless.
For example, most of which I find I put into [url+https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201588]one thread[/url], rather than 540+ separate topics for each shity website I find

[The Cryptovator]

A simple solution for OP, just to ignore the board since you feel that scam accusation is filled by shit. I am not supporting creating multiple threads for the same things. But please other board and you would discover many similar & repeat topics. It's actually unstoppable at all. We can post all Elon scams in a single thread actually. But often we create a new one, this would be pointless. But not all the threads are useless at all either it's promoting on the forum or not as long as it's related to cryptocurrency.

I have not much point to show you benefits for the forum users from the scam accusation board. Besides search engines reflection, there is another benefit. Imagine a scam ICO with the fake team and plagiarised whitepaper around the internet, but they aren't promoting on the forum. We know besides bounty spammers, a few investors around the forum and that investors somehow noticed that scam project from other social media and intend to invest. All the investors aren't experts to detect fake teams and plagiarism as well. So in case if that investors discover this scam from the scam accusation board, will he be benefited or not? What do you think?

Do you believe no investors in the forum besides bounty spammers? If you believe no cryptocurrency investors in the forum then you are right, the scam accusation board is useless then. I don't know about you, but once a time I followed the scam accusation board when I was an ICO investor even though I wasn't a forum user. I used the forum search button before choosing a project. So it was helpful for me definitely.

If scam accusation boards can save funds from single cryptocurrency users, then it won't useless. No matter either forum users or not. There are many lessons that would help us prevent scams in the future.

[RapTarX]

If that board seems boring to you, don't visit it or ignore it, you wouldn't believe how simple it is

It's not about ignoring & getting rid of the shits. It's all about the usage of the board as I have clearly stated in the title "Effectively". If the board doesn't serve its purpose, where's the necessity of having it either?
In the first 2 pages, I got 2 threads on scam accusations of the forum user. How the board is helping us to identify forum scammers? It's not even possible to find out a thread where there's a forum scam accusation existed. I believe this board was mainly created to post the on forum scam accusation though over the years it has turned into crap like this. I don't want to mention what are the craps; I believe most of you know which threads I'm talking about.