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November 07, 2021, 01:35:15 PM
Last edit: November 22, 2021, 03:55:11 PM by Juwel
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I'm a player who has been with them for almost 2 years and I've deposit lots of time also I'm losing and winning.

Suddenly they're closed my account without any information.
I've been using the bonus for months  (they're sending code on telegram channel) because I have a family problem that's why I was unable to deposit playing with the bonus. i did wd two times but i have deposited a lot also i have lost too
But end of the month (octo) the problem has been solved so
I'm back on the game  I was thinking I let promote the site and earn some referrals? so I started the PTC campaign my target was 500 ref complete then I'll deposit here to play.
But when I was 114 referrals they're locked my account when I try to log in popup say "your account is at risk please reset your password via email"
Here is PTC campaign: https://imgur.com/a/PfnxH6b

Then I connect with support https://imgur.com/a/MVGcTYb
Live Support say speak with email I have to send an email
I did I send an email and waiting

After getting the answer from the email support saying this https://imgur.com/a/MVGcTYb (2nd screenshot)

Then I go on Telegram group and speak with a mod https://imgur.com/a/mi7H6FF
Mod saying " Its due to bonus abuse" they're giving bonuses for everyone? I'm active so i'm claiming that and playing with that (i did wd two times) most of the time I lost that bonus

What agreement did I break? i have deposited lots of time I'm an active user! i have BONUS more than 1k USD on my account (bonus was for making deposits) my deposit amount is more than 400+ USD most of the time my last depsit was 600+ usd
I was playing with bonus for months because I was unable to deposit. that's not mean i didn't deposit anything on my account?

I was playing with the bonus that is abuse?

I'm inviting people with my money? that's abuse i'm promoting the site?
I have requested them to unlock my account but they said it's the final decision. what I did just use the bonus why they're giving the bonus if we can't play with them?
I'm not using any VPN or mult accounts?

Before this, i have applied for a moderator job

I need to unlock the account and need my referrals
Sorry for my bad English

I need help
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November 07, 2021, 01:47:04 PM
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I'm inviting people with my money? that's abuse i'm promoting the site?
I have requested them to unlock my account but they said it's the final decision. what I did just use the bonus why they're giving the bonus if we can't play with them?
I'm not using any VPN or mult accounts?

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.

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It was locked solely because you are using your account to only obtain bonus funds. If you would like the specific terms I can send you them....but I know you don't want me repearing what you have been told via email
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There are always terms. All terms indicate only one thing: Give us money we are good. You keep losing they are happy. The moment you are starting to take money from them they are unhappy. If anyone promotes their site and want to use promotion earning to bet or even if they withdraw that what is wrong? Suckers are getting new clients, aren't they?

Anyway, gambling is not going to make you rich. If you really want to be rich then have your own casino. Play with your money in your own casino. Win lose does not matter but you always are earning from your customers. House always wins.

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November 07, 2021, 03:23:24 PM
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I'm inviting people with my money? that's abuse i'm promoting the site?
I have requested them to unlock my account but they said it's the final decision. what I did just use the bonus why they're giving the bonus if we can't play with them?
I'm not using any VPN or mult accounts?

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.

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It was locked solely because you are using your account to only obtain bonus funds. If you would like the specific terms I can send you them....but I know you don't want me repearing what you have been told via email
https://i.imgur.com/j1L1JSu.png

There are always terms. All terms indicate only one thing: Give us money we are good. You keep losing they are happy. The moment you are starting to take money from them they are unhappy. If anyone promotes their site and want to use promotion earning to bet or even if they withdraw that what is wrong? Suckers are getting new clients, aren't they?

Anyway, gambling is not going to make you rich. If you really want to be rich then have your own casino. Play with your money in your own casino. Win lose does not matter but you always are earning from your customers. House always wins.

yup, I have told them that I was in a problem and give me last chance lol even they're not unlocking my account and taking my referrals which is I have invested for them if I didn't invest for them and play for games on there they'll be happy maybe they're don't need promoter they to need a deposit like is a hungry casino?
What if I deposit that money on casino? lose or win? something will happen but I decided to invite players so I was wrong about and they've prove it that They need Deposit players so they're can eat them

I've shown them about the PTC campaign I'm investing in for you to promote the site. looks like bc.game need just deposit for them no need to referrals or invite without referring so no one will get wager commissions from anyone

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November 07, 2021, 04:39:06 PM
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Did you get any bonus for every referral you get? I don't know if any casino has such offers or not, but if you are supposed to get a referral for every sign-up, that's abuse though I think no such offer existed. Can you explain more what partial benefit you were getting for every sign-up? That would describe what's the exact problem is.

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.
Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.
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November 07, 2021, 05:18:05 PM
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Did you get any bonus for every referral you get? I don't know if any casino has such offers or not, but if you are supposed to get a referral for every sign-up, that's abuse though I think no such offer existed. Can you explain more what partial benefit you were getting for every sign-up? That would describe what's the exact problem is.

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.
Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.

Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)

You can visit affiliates on-site

I'm promoting the site and playing for months with a bonus they're locked my account. why should i promote the site? i can invest that money on the site i didn't make that deposit on the site it that a mistake? or I'm promoting the site that is a mistake?

If I deposit in my account will be safe? what about the deposits I have made a few months back, there didn't see that??
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November 08, 2021, 02:39:21 AM
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Did you get any bonus for every referral you get? I don't know if any casino has such offers or not, but if you are supposed to get a referral for every sign-up, that's abuse though I think no such offer existed. Can you explain more what partial benefit you were getting for every sign-up? That would describe what's the exact problem is.

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.
Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.

Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)

You can visit affiliates on-site

I'm promoting the site and playing for months with a bonus they're locked my account. why should i promote the site? i can invest that money on the site i didn't make that deposit on the site it that a mistake? or I'm promoting the site that is a mistake?

If I deposit in my account will be safe? what about the deposits I have made a few months back, there didn't see that??

This is interesting I like to read BC.game version, if they locked accounts from only using bonus account coming from referrals then they should shut down their referral page and just concentrate on promoting on their own, but that does not how a gambling site should behave they encourage people to refer more players and in fact giving them incentives, I don't think BC.game will do that let's see their version of the story.

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November 08, 2021, 01:55:37 PM
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Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)

You can visit affiliates on-site

I'm promoting the site and playing for months with a bonus they're locked my account. why should i promote the site? i can invest that money on the site i didn't make that deposit on the site it that a mistake? or I'm promoting the site that is a mistake?

If I deposit in my account will be safe? what about the deposits I have made a few months back, there didn't see that??
If there's a wagering requirement for the referral bonus to be claimed, why would they lock your account? Did you pay people to sign up only or complete the wagering requirement too? If so, that's not going to be good for bc game but they haven't set such rules for the referrral deal I think. Did you try to get them responsed here? Please PM the bc game representative of bitcointalk and asked him to reply here.
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November 08, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
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Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.
I would also want BC game to share their part of the story. Has anyone PM them yet?

Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)
Where is the abuse part?

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If there's a wagering requirement for the referral bonus to be claimed, why would they lock your account? ~
Where is the abuse part?
There is nothing to abuse with the referral bonus fund. The 100 USD is an extra bonus fund beside the normal affiliate commission. You won't receive the amount in your account if anyone join bc.game through your affiliate link. The amount will be credited to your account if the referral increase their VIP level by doing wagers. Check the pay table of USD Rewards Rule
Check the screenshot of bc.game email support. They said
 


It clearly indicates that bc.game has suspended his account as they found multiple accounts under his control. And in the telegram support message they said OP is using his account for claiming the bonuses only. They have also given the reference of the email message (multiple accounts). In the ‘Bonuses and Promotions’ part of User Agreement page, bc.game said

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5.6. Bonuses can only be received once per person/account, family, household, address, e-mail address, IP addresses and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc.). The Operator reserves the right to close your account and confiscate any existing funds if evidence of abuse/fraud is found.

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November 08, 2021, 03:22:03 PM
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Did you get any bonus for every referral you get? I don't know if any casino has such offers or not, but if you are supposed to get a referral for every sign-up, that's abuse though I think no such offer existed. Can you explain more what partial benefit you were getting for every sign-up? That would describe what's the exact problem is.

When they see you are sucking up their profit they limit you. That's the game for gambling sites.
Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.

Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)

You can visit affiliates on-site

I'm promoting the site and playing for months with a bonus they're locked my account. why should i promote the site? i can invest that money on the site i didn't make that deposit on the site it that a mistake? or I'm promoting the site that is a mistake?

If I deposit in my account will be safe? what about the deposits I have made a few months back, there didn't see that??

This is interesting I like to read BC.game version, if they locked accounts from only using bonus account coming from referrals then they should shut down their referral page and just concentrate on promoting on their own, but that does not how a gambling site should behave they encourage people to refer more players and in fact giving them incentives, I don't think BC.game will do that let's see their version of the story.

No they've locked my account because I was using only bonus code they're have shared on telegram channel which is public not privately shared
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November 08, 2021, 03:28:10 PM
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How do you know this? Are you any of the representatives of bc.game?
If what you shared is true, I guess there's nothing wrong with locking the account as OP intended to abuse the system to get the bonus. Multiple accounts is a BIG no in casinos all the time & having multiple account for abusing the referal bonus isn't obiously something any casino will tolerate. I don't think bc.game is wrong here if what you shared is true.

OP, can you please confirm the above statement is true or wrong? If you are tryinmg to abuse, what do you expect from them either?

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November 08, 2021, 03:28:53 PM
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I was thinking I let promote the site and earn some referrals? so I started the PTC campaign my target was 500 ref complete then I'll deposit here to play.
There's no specific rules about bonus abuse in their terms besides multiple accounts and breached their games, but don't you think your intention is bad? since you want to maximize your profit trough their referral bonus. You're not really advertising, but pretty much only want to get referrals from your PTC campaign.

This issues also similar with winning a jackpot only with faucet, you didn't risk anything but if you're lucky you could earn money when hit the minimum withdrawal requirement. Of course it depends on each casino handled this, some allow it and some won't allow.

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November 08, 2021, 03:30:20 PM
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If there's a wagering requirement for the referral bonus to be claimed, why would they lock your account? ~
Where is the abuse part?
There is nothing to abuse with the referral bonus fund. The 100 USD is an extra bonus fund beside the normal affiliate commission. You won't receive the amount in your account if anyone join bc.game through your affiliate link. The amount will be credited to your account if the referral increase their VIP level by doing wagers. Check the pay table of USD Rewards Rule
Check the screenshot of bc.game email support. They said
 


It clearly indicates that bc.game has suspended his account as they found multiple accounts under his control. And in the telegram support message they said OP is using his account for claiming the bonuses only. They have also given the reference of the email message (multiple accounts). In the ‘Bonuses and Promotions’ part of User Agreement page, bc.game said

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5.6. Bonuses can only be received once per person/account, family, household, address, e-mail address, IP addresses and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc.). The Operator reserves the right to close your account and confiscate any existing funds if evidence of abuse/fraud is found.

Look at the screenshot https://imgur.com/a/DN9l0qn and email saying
You violated our user agreement below:

2.1.13. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration, and signup, gameplay, and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of player's device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions, and blockchain analysis.

You used prohibited techniques in relation to bonuses. Sorry but the decision is final.


Not sure if that's the case here really, it's a one-sided story so far. You must hear what BC Game has to say here. I don't think they would simply ban someone for no reason. I know at least one addicted gambler who used to enjoy bc game and have few good referrals too there.
I would also want BC game to share their part of the story. Has anyone PM them yet?

Yes, they're offering each referral 100 USD but it will be unlocked by wagering from them (it has rules)
Where is the abuse part?

it was not affiliated it was about using their bonus giving on the telegram channel I'm claiming that
but that was publish for everyone not private like they're share a code to someone I'm using that code on another account? no I'm claiming that everyone do and they're sharing
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November 08, 2021, 03:41:59 PM
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I was thinking I let promote the site and earn some referrals? so I started the PTC campaign my target was 500 ref complete then I'll deposit here to play.
There's no specific rules about bonus abuse in their terms besides multiple accounts and breached their games, but don't you think your intention is bad? since you want to maximize your profit trough their referral bonus. You're not really advertising, but pretty much only want to get referrals from your PTC campaign.

This issues also similar with winning a jackpot only with faucet, you didn't risk anything but if you're lucky you could earn money when hit the minimum withdrawal requirement. Of course it depends on each casino handled this, some allow it and some won't allow.

Yes, I'm using the PTC campaign for affiliate's What's everyone doing for affiliates? isn't that? I'm not doing only on bc game and I do two more sites the same way.
affiliate bonus will unlock if a ref increase his level if he didn't increase his level it will stay lock.
But the bonus will not unlock at once it unlock level by level
eg: if your ref complete the first level by wagering it will unlock some USD
when he complete next level it will unlock again few USD
it works like this ref complete level then you will get ref bonus

Why do people use the affiliate to earn some commissions? They're can check my affiliate commissions are very small amount if I'm doing the affiliate bonus abuse my all bonus will get unlocked and my commission will get up to 1+ btc isn't it?
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November 08, 2021, 04:46:35 PM
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How do you know this? Are you any of the representatives of bc.game?
OP posted this screenshot in his main post. I'm not a representative of the casino. I just cropped the screenshot and highlighted their replies

After getting the answer from the email support saying this https://imgur.com/a/MVGcTYb (2nd screenshot)

BTW, OP posted another screenshot of bc.game support reply. Still it looks like they have suspended his account for the abuse of bonus with multiple accounts. Although OP saying that he has only one account. Looks like this issue has come here after a lot of discussion between OP and bc.game support. Perhaps, the casino team have enough information about this issue and they should reply here quickly. I just messaged bcgame support to get their response here.

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How do you know this? Are you any of the representatives of bc.game?
OP posted this screenshot in his main post. I'm not a representative of the casino. I just cropped the screenshot and highlighted their replies

After getting the answer from the email support saying this https://imgur.com/a/MVGcTYb (2nd screenshot)

BTW, OP posted another screenshot of bc.game support reply. Still it looks like they have suspended his account for the abuse of bonus with multiple accounts. Although OP saying that he has only one account. Looks like this issue has come here after a lot of discussion between OP and bc.game support. Perhaps, the casino team have enough information about this issue and they should reply here quickly. I just messaged bcgame support to get their response here.

Thank you for summoning me. Normally we prefer to keep BC.Game conversations on our relevant threads but exceptions can be made. This situation was unfortunate but BC.Game has to remain consistent with our terms of use. I won't be going into detail because that would violate player privacy but I can say that when a player makes a large deposit during our deposit bonus periods to fill up their locked BCD bonus amount and then immediately withdraws leaving their account with only the locked BCD, that in itself is bonus abuse. Then, to spend the next few months only collecting playable bonuses from everywhere possible to chip away at unlocking the ill gotten deposit bonus amount is adding insult to injury. I feel bad that the OP had his account locked because I don't believe he was being intentionally malicious or multi account bonus scamming. I think in his mind, he just unwittingly broke the rules thinking he found an innocent loophole in the system. Sometimes, when this happens, it can be a person or team of people intentionally registering for the sole purpose of scamming the casino. I am sure the OP doesn't fall into the category of a scammer. However, as I said in the opening of this reply, we must remain consistent and apply our terms to everyone no matter their intentions. I hope this helps to clarify.

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November 08, 2021, 06:37:17 PM
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How do you know this? Are you any of the representatives of bc.game?
OP posted this screenshot in his main post. I'm not a representative of the casino. I just cropped the screenshot and highlighted their replies

After getting the answer from the email support saying this https://imgur.com/a/MVGcTYb (2nd screenshot)

BTW, OP posted another screenshot of bc.game support reply. Still it looks like they have suspended his account for the abuse of bonus with multiple accounts. Although OP saying that he has only one account. Looks like this issue has come here after a lot of discussion between OP and bc.game support. Perhaps, the casino team have enough information about this issue and they should reply here quickly. I just messaged bcgame support to get their response here.

Thank you for summoning me. Normally we prefer to keep BC.Game conversations on our relevant threads but exceptions can be made. This situation was unfortunate but BC.Game has to remain consistent with our terms of use. I won't be going into detail because that would violate player privacy but I can say that when a player makes a large deposit during our deposit bonus periods to fill up their locked BCD bonus amount and then immediately withdraws leaving their account with only the locked BCD, that in itself is bonus abuse. Then, to spend the next few months only collecting playable bonuses from everywhere possible to chip away at unlocking the ill gotten deposit bonus amount is adding insult to injury. I feel bad that the OP had his account locked because I don't believe he was being intentionally malicious or multi account bonus scamming. I think in his mind, he just unwittingly broke the rules thinking he found an innocent loophole in the system. Sometimes, when this happens, it can be a person or team of people intentionally registering for the sole purpose of scamming the casino. I am sure the OP doesn't fall into the category of a scammer. However, as I said in the opening of this reply, we must remain consistent and apply our terms to everyone no matter their intentions. I hope this helps to clarify.

The deposit bonus isn't new ? it's been few months ago I have deposit and make a few profits and take my deposit with small profits after that you can see I haven't deposited any as I said before I was in a family problem that's why I was unable to deposit. what's is the problem with the deposit bonus? You can check my bonus how much did i unlock? i think it's really a misunderstanding? I'm really not there for your deposit bonus i like to play there and i want my account back! you can remove the deposit bonus from my account as i know you have deposit bonus expire date? if I was there for your deposit bonus I can unlock that month ago but you have all info you can check how much did I unlok your deposit bonus ?
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November 09, 2021, 04:37:10 PM
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I can say that when a player makes a large deposit during our deposit bonus periods to fill up their locked BCD bonus amount and then immediately withdraws leaving their account with only the locked BCD, that in itself is bonus abuse. Then, to spend the next few months only collecting playable bonuses from everywhere possible to chip away at unlocking the ill gotten deposit bonus amount is adding insult to injury. I feel bad that the OP had his account locked because I don't believe he was being intentionally malicious or multi account bonus scamming.
Thank you for your clarification. It makes enough sense but can you please point out where did you mention that if a player deposit only to take the bonus will be counted as bonus abuse? Is there any specific statement? This is a loophole of course & there will be people to find out that loophole to abuse but don't you think you could have use more strict rules? Did you state this anywhere? It will be unethical if you didn't say this anywhere but locking an account just because this is abuse (without any mention in the bonus rules). I don't know if you have set this rule or not. If you have, I guess you are fine.

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I can say that when a player makes a large deposit during our deposit bonus periods to fill up their locked BCD bonus amount and then immediately withdraws leaving their account with only the locked BCD, that in itself is bonus abuse. Then, to spend the next few months only collecting playable bonuses from everywhere possible to chip away at unlocking the ill gotten deposit bonus amount is adding insult to injury. I feel bad that the OP had his account locked because I don't believe he was being intentionally malicious or multi account bonus scamming.
Thank you for your clarification. It makes enough sense but can you please point out where did you mention that if a player deposit only to take the bonus will be counted as bonus abuse? Is there any specific statement? This is a loophole of course & there will be people to find out that loophole to abuse but don't you think you could have use more strict rules? Did you state this anywhere? It will be unethical if you didn't say this anywhere but locking an account just because this is abuse (without any mention in the bonus rules). I don't know if you have set this rule or not. If you have, I guess you are fine.

When they want to ban someone he will get banned no matter what you do for them. i did for them>promoting and it's nothing for them they're don't care about it what I invest for them. my deposit bonus was 1020+ USD something in this few months I have unlocked maybe 15+ USD YES they're can't prove it that i have unlocked deposit bonus 50%  Angry with the shitcode bonus if i unlock that bonus 50% i believe that is a point for banning an account. my deposit bonus didn't even unlock 2% but my other question is >this is my deposit bonus. why i can't unlock that ?
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You violated our user agreement below:

2.1.13. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration, and signup, gameplay, and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of player's device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions, and blockchain analysis.

You used prohibited techniques in relation to bonuses. Sorry but the decision is final.

Like they're thinking I'm a free player 😀😀 only deposit bonus they've done and you can check my other site deposit bonus. https://imgur.com/a/vD62fc1 first of all I'm not interested in a deposit bonus if they check my account carefully they'll know this
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November 10, 2021, 07:53:20 PM
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Anyway, gambling is not going to make you rich. If you really want to be rich then have your own casino. Play with your money in your own casino. Win lose does not matter but you always are earning from your customers. House always wins.

Wagering at your own casino isn't going to make you rich either  Wink that's why most of them have a clause that says you can't be a casino employee to register on the site. The sites that do have employee accounts (mostly smaller casinos that don't have an army of devs to make a management panel), don't play any of the games.

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