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November 08, 2021, 10:40:13 AM |
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I understand that getting a professional knowledge in coaching introduces an individual to aspects of a sport not known by all, but oftentimes i have witnessed individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
Whenever a game is going on say football, you always hear such individuals question the coach's line up and tactics, you hear questions like -
-Why is he (the coach) not playing player xyz? -why did he (the coach) use player xyz instead of players zyx? -why is he (that is the coach) using this formation instead the other one? and so on.
-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
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November 08, 2021, 11:02:17 AM |
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I understand that getting a professional knowledge in coaching introduces an individual to aspects of a sport not known by all, but oftentimes i have witnessed individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
Whenever a game is going on say football, you always hear such individuals question the coach's line up and tactics, you hear questions like -
-Why is he (the coach) not playing player xyz? -why did he (the coach) use player xyz instead of players zyx? -why is he (that is the coach) using this formation instead the other one? and so on.
-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
I don't think so spectators can only see the actual game, they have no idea what's going on in practice and the condition of every player and the whole team, coaching is not only about giving instruction, it's picking the right people at the right time with the right instruction to come out with a good result, there is a saying player win games coaches lose them.
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November 08, 2021, 11:32:09 AM |
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In my own experience ? i think this is more applicable in Chess Game because from my younger years as i played this game , those who are watching knows more the right move than those who is in the table, I am not saying that professional chess players do the same but what i mean are those who are non Pro in which playing in the street or those who plays against their friends . but among those mentioned above i think this happens also in other sports.
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November 08, 2021, 11:34:42 AM |
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There's a possibility if you've been following the sport for years and know the strengths and weaknesses of most teams, but at the same time, a lot of people don't understand that coaches have a different way of looking at the current situation, like for example the future teams they'll be facing, instead of putting out another player in the field it's better to let him rest and prepare for a much tougher team in the next couple of days. Also, some teams have a bigger coaching staff so there's probably a deeper understanding of the tactics they've been pulling, and who knows, the players and coaches might've been discussing certain strategies behind the scenes.
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Spectators ( Couch Coaches) have the luxury to make calm decisions, without any stress at home, because they are not under pressure. A lot of the actual coaches have to make split decisions based on 1000's of strategies that has been discussed with the players in the week before. The coaches might also have information on the players, that are not available to the spectators. Some use a GPS tracker to track player performance (eg. the number of sprints made, the distance covered, and how the player is dealing with the workload and also nagging injuries to players) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 08, 2021, 11:40:42 AM |
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I understand that getting a professional knowledge in coaching introduces an individual to aspects of a sport not known by all, but oftentimes i have witnessed individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
Whenever a game is going on say football, you always hear such individuals question the coach's line up and tactics, you hear questions like -
-Why is he (the coach) not playing player xyz? -why did he (the coach) use player xyz instead of players zyx? -why is he (that is the coach) using this formation instead the other one? and so on.
-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
This is a difficult question and can hardly be answered unambiguously. On the one hand, outside observers have less information than a coach, therefore their opinion is less based on facts. On the other hand, the coach of the team is trapped in subjectivity - he cannot look at the situation from the outside as he is maximally involved in it. It is probably impossible to understand who is closer to the "truth" in such a situation, since this is a random value and sometimes an outside observer is right, and sometimes a coach.
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November 08, 2021, 11:44:55 AM |
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Coaches know every player and they know the conditions of each player before the start of the game, they are the ones who can see how players perform in practice and they study statistics that is why they have assistant coaches to provide them a much detailed analysis on who will field on a particular play, these couch coaches or spectators failed to see, they can appreciate or question a game as it happens but I'm sure they do not know how to set up plays.
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November 08, 2021, 11:50:55 AM |
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-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
Of course, it's possible as long as we love the game because we will make more research to better understand it. As a gambler, I do make sure I know the sport and make my own research, in order to win in sports betting, you need to have the knowledge and understands how certain teams will play against earch other, and like they said, with good knowledge, it will build a skills in sports betting that would make you successful one day. We fell in love with the sport while we are betting so it's normal to make our suggestions or show our frustrations when we think something wrong was done by the coach, and that wrong decision resulted to losing our bet.
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November 08, 2021, 11:51:16 AM |
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Coaches know every player and they know the conditions of each player before the start of the game, they are the ones who can see how players perform in practice and they study statistics that is why they have assistant coaches to provide them a much detailed analysis on who will field on a particular play, these couch coaches or spectators failed to see, they can appreciate or question a game as it happens but I'm sure they do not know how to set up plays.
Agree on this but on the other hand. We as spectator can see the performance of the team in birds eye view with no string attached, The reason why some coaches fail on managing is because they have there own personal principles and rules to follow even though it's not suitable for his team. That's why most the top coaches that still on this kind of business are those willing to improved and improvised new ways of strategy that is not common on the specific sports they are playing. Typical coach has a pattern which can easily read and predict by the opponent coach while a phenomenal coach do crazy things just to see what's better for his team until he find a suitable game plan that will work to win the game.
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November 08, 2021, 12:00:40 PM |
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-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
just like what ralle14 said, there is a possibility. but most of the time? no. years of experience will give you a better perspective will give you a different perspective of the game and the time you spent with your team will give you a better understanding of what they are capable of. besides, just like what ralle14 said(again) coaches are not just thinking about the current situation.
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November 08, 2021, 12:26:06 PM |
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Yes, but it's only a situational-based kind or type of thing. Spectators can often see the wider side of things most of the time due to the fact that they aren't influenced by factors such as stress, pressure, etc. Though as I said, it's an oftentimes situational, or case-by-case basis. It doesn't mean that coaches should be blamed or undermined for what they're doing though, they take in a lot more information than what you're average spectator would, it wouldn't be wrong to say that they try to predict what the future is. Plus, it takes a lot of time, studying, research to do what a coach could do imo.
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November 08, 2021, 12:57:24 PM |
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-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
I guess they do but mostly guesses and speculations and it might change due to timing. There are other factors to consider if you're into coaching not just because the player suited on that position but there are times you need to get into larger perspective like players health, the chemistry, luck, etc. This doesn't happen just in football matches but oftentimes like basketball.
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November 08, 2021, 01:12:56 PM |
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I understand that getting a professional knowledge in coaching introduces an individual to aspects of a sport not known by all, but oftentimes i have witnessed individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
Whenever a game is going on say football, you always hear such individuals question the coach's line up and tactics, you hear questions like -
-Why is he (the coach) not playing player xyz? -why did he (the coach) use player xyz instead of players zyx? -why is he (that is the coach) using this formation instead the other one? and so on.
-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
They have certain rotation and game plans to follow although we know that sometimes its really frustrating to see that they are not using our favorite player but for sure the coaching staff knows what they are doing and they know the players well so don't be surprise if something like this occur on the game since sometimes there are players have a bad night and its not good for them to gamble if those player messing up on the floor.
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November 08, 2021, 01:32:34 PM |
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Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
If you’re into that sports then there’s a big chance that you can know a lot of things about sports and you can easily speculate the game especially if you also know the opponent team. Coaches are also trained individual so I don’t think you can be better than them since they play the game according to the rules and of course according to the goals of every team owner. I have big respect on coaches, we can always speculate but coaches will still be a big factor for every players.
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November 08, 2021, 01:41:11 PM |
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Good and unique topic which I think has never been discussed so far in our forum and I believe I can answer the question from both perspectives (as a spectator and a player). I've been representing cricket for the state level in my country for quite a few years and all I can say is that spectators are just meant to watch the game rather than playing it on the field. Playing the game is completely different from watching it and commenting on the player or the coach for playing properly is not good as well. A play can be influenced by various factors and one among them is the placement of certain players in the field at that particular time. individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
This is not true. It's always easier to play FIFA in your PC rather than playing that in the field along with other players. Spectators are mere video game players, though they know the game very well it's quite not possible to guess what is happening in the field. -Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
Nope, not possible. Will you be able to become a self-made doctor just by reading various books? Becoming a self made engineer is much more possible than becoming a self made doctor. Similarly, one can never be able to master a team sport like football or cricket without having professional coaching.
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November 08, 2021, 01:41:22 PM |
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-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
Physical, strategy, tactical, moral, mental, motivational or so on related to sports, especially football, are owned by professional coaches and applied to players in readiness to be on the field, before the match starts or every day/practice, of course understanding without a coach is difficult to develop for the team, while on the field. While spectators like you and me who have a passive nature, the pattern of understanding from the audience itself has various noble ideas and gives applause to the team and also inputs to the coach, Actually in the world of football, if it is observed that the audience is smarter than the coaches and players, it is just an illusion, if the audience plays without the coach, it is even worse and the worst happens on the field. Conclusion: without a coach the understanding of sports especially football is worse.
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November 08, 2021, 01:51:28 PM |
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I understand that getting a professional knowledge in coaching introduces an individual to aspects of a sport not known by all, but oftentimes i have witnessed individuals (spectators) of a sport, due to extreme love for a sport become masters of a sport so much that it seems almost like they now know the sport better than some coaches.
Whenever a game is going on say football, you always hear such individuals question the coach's line up and tactics, you hear questions like -
-Why is he (the coach) not playing player xyz? -why did he (the coach) use player xyz instead of players zyx? -why is he (that is the coach) using this formation instead the other one? and so on.
-Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
People watching football and loving their team have a lot of knowledge about the players and possibly some inside information about their predispositions. Unfortunately, such people will never be able to become professional coaches. A professional coach must not only have general knowledge, but also a great deal of knowledge of tactics, organization, psychology, even anatomy and much more..
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November 08, 2021, 02:10:52 PM |
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No. Aren't cheerers among the spectators? The ones who know the sport I guess will have the over view that they see what is going on in the field. I wouldnt say they know better most of the time they just too excited cheering and booing the team they dislike. Coaching would be diffrent, you have to have experience to be able to coach.
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November 08, 2021, 02:14:45 PM |
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Is there a possibility that spectators of a sport like you and i with no professional training can develop a better understanding of a sport than some professional coaches of some teams?
If you’re into that sports then there’s a big chance that you can know a lot of things about sports and you can easily speculate the game especially if you also know the opponent team. Coaches are also trained individual so I don’t think you can be better than them since they play the game according to the rules and of course according to the goals of every team owner. I have big respect on coaches, we can always speculate but coaches will still be a big factor for every players. We can only speculate but we don't know what's their plan and how they rotate their players, but for sure from that as you said coach are well trained and they will not go on that far if they don't know on what they are doing. But what's happening on the court is part of their game plan although we know sometimes their plan didn't work since there are players struggles but for sure in their next game they correct their flaws and can able to avoid their mistakes by the help of the coach and their team plan.
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It is not as if individuals (spectators) know better than coach when it comes to football , just their are some individuals who have givimg their love to football, they know everything about football this is as a result of passion they have sports . So there is nothing you would ask they don't know about football.
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