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November 23, 2021, 09:21:39 AM
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Market does involve pumps and crashes and someone should really realized those things because thats how market works on the first place and you should really know by means of that.
Crash is inevitable and you should always think off about these probabilities could really happen thats why when making out positions then always be cautious from time to time.
You wouldnt know on whats next but if you do go hold for long term then these things shouldnt bother you but its not actually easy for it to be done.
It is inevitable and it will come to the market no matter how high it would go, the market cannot just avoid a crash.
And if there's a crash, the better thinking is that the recovery is going to be bigger after that. It's all about how it would go next after the dump and people forget about it.
It depends on what is meant by the crash, because over all these years we have already seen all sorts and the most unexpected scenarios Wink It's time for everyone who works in such a risky market as the cryptocurrency to get used to the idea that there is nothing permanent in this market and ups are replaced by downs.

Correct!
The OP wasn't clear and concise on what he meant by a market crash because as far as everyone knows a crash will usually be followed by a huge pump.
And everybody is correct, market crash happens every now and then, not in the near future because it is recurring.

Maybe the OP means a market crash that has no recovery, that means a crash that bring the whole crypto market down till eternity, because he also stated there that he understands how volatile crypto is.

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November 23, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
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There are (as of  now) 14029 cryptocurrencies listed in coinmarketcap.com.
A case has been made (repeatedly) for  the existence of a bubble in the cryptocurrency market.
Yeah, I understand cryptocurrencies are volatile, high risk investments. But, are you guys expecting a market crash anytime soon?
Well i am open for possibilities but "EXPECTING"? nope I'm now , who's in the right mind will expect this? when all of us expecting increase in prices specially those coins  in our pocket?

and also I don't think there are many here who thinks this will come but open for a chance is indeed.

Well, in my opinion, this would never go to happen because we may have to face a market crash anytime soon or later. The current trends of trading digital currency are really very high. People are investing more in digital currency as compared to the past. A part of any scam in currency, a market crash isn't possible in the future for digital currency.

Market dumping is indeed may happen but crashing is not .









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November 23, 2021, 12:33:52 PM
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There are (as of  now) 14029 cryptocurrencies listed in coinmarketcap.com.
A case has been made (repeatedly) for  the existence of a bubble in the cryptocurrency market.



Ok. Let's talk bubbles for a second.

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Goldman Flags $8.2 Trillion Threat Worse Than China Evergrande

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The real worry concerning the China Evergrande default drama is the inevitable where-there’s-smoke-there’s-fire paranoia that accompanies debt stumbles.

The most worrisome such blaze, say analysts at Goldman Sachs, is surging local government debt levels that President Xi Jinping’s men have done their best to hide. The default troubles at the globe’s most indebted property development seem like small embers compared to the $8.2 trillion worth of local government financing vehicles outstanding.

And that’s just the LGFVs we know of. The data that Goldman’s Maggie Wei highlights is as of the end of 2020. Clearly, the tally is higher now—perhaps markedly. Ten months ago, these shadowy investment schemes had reached 53 trillion yuan, up from 16 trillion yuan, or $2.47 trillion, in 2013. They now amount to roughly 52% of China’s gross domestic product, topping the official amount of outstanding government debt.

In other words, as scary at the $300 billion Evergrande story might be, Xi’s government has much bigger problems on its hands. The most acute: keeping GDP this year from falling too far below the 6% Beijing hoped to produce without adding to the nation’s bubble troubles.

The forces behind local governments sitting on financing-vehicle debt worth twice the size of Germany’s GDP date back to 2008. Even before the Lehman Brothers crisis, Communist Party dynamics encouraged municipal borrowing binges. The way local officials got attention in Beijing—and rose to national prominence—was producing above-average GDP rates.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williampesek/2021/09/30/goldman-flags-82-trillion-threat-worse-than-china-evergrande/


According to this there is an $8.1 trillion dollar automotive loan bubble in china.

The student loan bubble in the USA alone is said to be larger than $1.5 trillion.

Bubbles are usually associated with large sums of outstanding debt. Which makes it difficult to know where the "crypto is a bubble" claims are stemming from.

I think this post by @Hydrogen was overlooked for no reason by many posters in this thread.

Indeed, considering those numbers, crypto market with its current cap of $2.54T, isn't looking like a bubble that much. I'm not trying to say that each and everyone of the 40% of crypto, remaining after subtracting BTC's and ETH's parts, is worth something. Most of them aren't worth sh*t, and they will surely crash. But maybe 10-20 cryptos worth their market caps.

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November 23, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
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There are (as of  now) 14029 cryptocurrencies listed in coinmarketcap.com.
A case has been made (repeatedly) for  the existence of a bubble in the cryptocurrency market.
Yeah, I understand cryptocurrencies are volatile, high risk investments. But, are you guys expecting a market crash anytime soon?

Market scenario is just cycle, so expect everything is possible to happen in the future both market dump and pump. But market crash will not going to happen in crypto  because the adoption in bitcoin and other digital currencies keep on increasing, it means people are now more aware and ready to use cryptocurrency.
This is really haters policy ad they create hype like this we have no crash in last one decade even many hard bears came and then gone but crypto market is developing and growth is also having some good figures which mean it's not going to happen in future even a good number of hype and dumb projects also getting some good intention from community but some dumb can happened crypto market is going to crash its never been realistic thing for anyone.
As we all know from these 14029 cryptocurrencies we have very few solid and having good future and all others are sh*t or just waste of money and time but still we have very good future.

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November 23, 2021, 04:15:49 PM
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There are two issues invstors confront either hold for long run or get freeze and exit in crash of market.Atually it is since need of information in the event that you contribute shrewdly never confront the losses.For a whereas we have had a bull run on a few cryptocurrencies and it's not here to remain for ever it's shrewd to require benefit. Without paln chances of loss so Set a target cost to choose out benefit at each rally up so the showcase do not take individuals unconscious. In as much as it's troublesome to foresee the market it's continuously great to preserve a great benefit target so you do not get caught and taken uninformed.

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November 24, 2021, 02:34:18 PM
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Sooo...
I keep learning, and I keep seeing some scenarios that are widely regarded as catastrophic by "normal people" (like a market crash) are not that terrible if you took the necessary precautions.
Sure, it won't be a walk in the park (if it actually happens. Or "when"), but it shouldn't be that bad. It's just a matter of being ready.

Thank you all for the replies. This thread (like all others) has been very informative.  Smiley
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There are (as of  now) 14029 cryptocurrencies listed in coinmarketcap.com.
A case has been made (repeatedly) for  the existence of a bubble in the cryptocurrency market.
Yeah, I understand cryptocurrencies are volatile, high risk investments. But, are you guys expecting a market crash anytime soon?
Well i am open for possibilities but "EXPECTING"? nope I'm now , who's in the right mind will expect this? when all of us expecting increase in prices specially those coins  in our pocket?

and also I don't think there are many here who thinks this will come but open for a chance is indeed.
I guess even if we are "expecting" a crash, would that be because of the high number of tokens and coins available in crypto? I get that there could be 14k+ coins and there could be 140k+ of them as well and that wouldn't be the reason why I would be expecting a drop in the price. If the price happens to go down at anytime in crypto, that would be because people are taking out their profits or have some panic selling or even liquidity cashing due to bad leveraged trading but not because there are too many coins.

I get that some people imagine a lot of failed coins equal to a lot of money gone but that is not true, it is still around, just not in those coins. Having a bubble in the number of coins and how it takes literally 10 minutes to build your own coin is nothing to me, it is not a reason to bash crypto, it is to praise developers.
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The cryptocurrencies market continues to move rapidly this year, even the daily transaction volume has now reached more than $100 billion, this is a large transaction and only large countries can trade with a nominal equivalent to cryptocurrencies, but there are things that make us wary because many haters hate it. with cryptocurrencies and think that crypto is a threat so that it can crash the market.

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Of course it is the worst possibility when the situation is saturated, trading volume could fall by almost half if a big crash does happen
the metaverse project is indeed a favorite now and we'll see how far it develops later

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Finally we have (probably the beginning of) a crash. This is not only evident in the crypto sector, but also in the equity sector. In principle, this is due to a newly discovered virus mutation in South Africa, which has many mutations and is supposed to bypass the immune system better than all previous variants.
And one should not forget that the currently prevailing Delta variant caused a sensation in India for the first time exactly one year ago (in November 2020).
In addition, inflation figures are very high, which fuels fears that less money will soon be printed, which puts pressure on stocks and crypto markets.
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November 26, 2021, 05:12:17 PM
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Sooo...
I keep learning, and I keep seeing some scenarios that are widely regarded as catastrophic by "normal people" (like a market crash) are not that terrible if you took the necessary precautions.
Sure, it won't be a walk in the park (if it actually happens. Or "when"), but it shouldn't be that bad. It's just a matter of being ready.

Thank you all for the replies. This thread (like all others) has been very informative.  Smiley

that's right. like the current conditions, we don't know when the price will fall soon, but it looks like the price has started showing a low price at this time. well, we can only guess when this price will go back up, or down. if you are already in this state, all you can do is hold back, or increase the amount of your assets.
if you ask about the price, no one knows for sure. however, anything can happen, an increase, or a decrease can occur in the near future. especially the end of the year, it will be a shocking thing for us.

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Everything is possible in the volatile cryptocurrency market, but the market crash forever. This I see is impossible because cryptocurrencies have become a huge trade worth trillions of dollars, so the market may crash at some point, but then the currencies will be pumped and the market will recover as it was, so you have to put all the possibilities in this market and you should avoid FOMO and greed and buy cheap and sell when you make profits.

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November 26, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
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Of course it is the worst possibility when the situation is saturated, trading volume could fall by almost half if a big crash does happen
It can be more than half. I've seen that happen a few years ago.

the metaverse project is indeed a favorite now and we'll see how far it develops later
A new trend that we may likely see to flourish and nourish the market. Or, it could be the great start of the bear market that we're anticipating. It's all guessing time until we finally see it happens already.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 26, 2021, 08:49:52 PM
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Everything is possible in the volatile cryptocurrency market, but the market crash forever. This I see is impossible because cryptocurrencies have become a huge trade worth trillions of dollars, so the market may crash at some point, but then the currencies will be pumped and the market will recover as it was, so you have to put all the possibilities in this market and you should avoid FOMO and greed and buy cheap and sell when you make profits.

With more institutional investors from different countries, to crash forever is very less to happen. Unless there's an internal problem that will happen inside the system, but for more than 10 years now, the system still working and attracts more new investors, and with adoptions that being take place we might see good growth instead of a bigger crashed.

Everything still unknown, it's only time that will conclude you better to take your side after you do your own DYOR, anticipation and right attitude will guide you to earn good compensation,

You are right, better to stay away from fomo and greed! Safe venture!

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November 27, 2021, 02:26:28 AM
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There are (as of  now) 14029 cryptocurrencies listed in coinmarketcap.com.
A case has been made (repeatedly) for  the existence of a bubble in the cryptocurrency market.
Yeah, I understand cryptocurrencies are volatile, high risk investments. But, are you guys expecting a market crash anytime soon?
I don't think it's a devastation to call it. where the crash occurs because the market needs a refresh which has reached a saturation point. until finally the market went up again to reach a new ATH. from that, of course, there will be natural selection where investors who can't afford it will certainly leave the market, and later new and bigger investors will emerge.

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November 27, 2021, 02:52:57 AM
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The cryptocurrencies market continues to move rapidly this year, even the daily transaction volume has now reached more than $100 billion, this is a large transaction and only large countries can trade with a nominal equivalent to cryptocurrencies, but there are things that make us wary because many haters hate it. with cryptocurrencies and think that crypto is a threat so that it can crash the market.
not everyone who makes FUD is a bitcoin hater and wants bitcoin destroyed, sometimes they make FUD so that bitcoin prices go down and they can buy bitcoins at low prices.
and what do you mean crypto is a threat and can damage the market ? I personally think bitcoin does not threaten any market because bitcoin is just a digital asset and digital investment.

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It is inevitable and it will come to the market no matter how high it would go, the market cannot just avoid a crash.
And if there's a crash, the better thinking is that the recovery is going to be bigger after that. It's all about how it would go next after the dump and people forget about it.
It depends on what is meant by the crash, because over all these years we have already seen all sorts and the most unexpected scenarios Wink It's time for everyone who works in such a risky market as the cryptocurrency to get used to the idea that there is nothing permanent in this market and ups are replaced by downs. This is greatly facilitated by the very nature of cryptocurrencies, which in its classic original version does not imply such a thing as the security of an asset with anything. Therefore, on this issue, I would like to say the following: although it is always necessary to keep in mind unfavorable scenarios, but in my humble opinion there are no strong objective reasons for the crash in the coming months.
True, nothing is permanent and that's why when somebody says crash, it's usually the quick dump in the market. There's the other description on it being used commonly like dip or correction.

And when we experience a crash, we're also looking forward to the next thing about it because that's when we're thinking that it's going to be a bigger pump ahead.
I really don't expect some crashes especially for bitcoin and for some altcoins, maybe it's inevitable but it's just a temporary phemomenon and market will eventually recover for much bigger and promising value. I guess the correct term just what @livingfree have said, it's just a correction or temporary dip or even bear market.

It's up to the holder how he/she it, it can be always used as an advantage not a disadvantage. Don't forget that we are here to be knowledgeable about the economics and to gain to live more comfortably.

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To be honest, I have high hopes for the market in the future. I'm not expecting it to crash because it's still in a good situation right now. We've experienced the dip before and it's too far from its previous situation. If ever it would crash, I don't think it would strike really low. That's actually the best time for us to buy and accumulate more.
sometimes there must be a little correction first to reach a higher point. Honestly, I'm not too worried about the price drop that happened yesterday because many investors believe that towards the end of the year or the beginning of 2022 the price of bitcoin will go up again. other than that in this year the price of bitcoin often recovers quickly so I'm sure the price of bitcoin will recover soon and will reach a higher point.

I also think that a fall is necessary so that it can correct and gain strength, because if this small fall that occurred is for BTC to reach $ 100k it would be something great, however I am invaded by doubt, because from almost $ 66k it almost reached The $ 55k and this only proves one thing, it is not difficult for the bears to make the price of BTC fall, and this is something that is evident, which, I daresay they want to reach a price of $ 66k- $ 68 again k to make it fall to about $ 50k and be able to take big profits, this can be a strategy on the part of the bears, and corresponding to the different strategies that occur in speculative markets you must be alert to any important movement.

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November 28, 2021, 09:54:41 PM
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To be honest, I have high hopes for the market in the future. I'm not expecting it to crash because it's still in a good situation right now. We've experienced the dip before and it's too far from its previous situation. If ever it would crash, I don't think it would strike really low. That's actually the best time for us to buy and accumulate more.
sometimes there must be a little correction first to reach a higher point. Honestly, I'm not too worried about the price drop that happened yesterday because many investors believe that towards the end of the year or the beginning of 2022 the price of bitcoin will go up again. other than that in this year the price of bitcoin often recovers quickly so I'm sure the price of bitcoin will recover soon and will reach a higher point.

I also think that a fall is necessary so that it can correct and gain strength, because if this small fall that occurred is for BTC to reach $ 100k it would be something great, however I am invaded by doubt, because from almost $ 66k it almost reached The $ 55k and this only proves one thing, it is not difficult for the bears to make the price of BTC fall, and this is something that is evident, which, I daresay they want to reach a price of $ 66k- $ 68 again k to make it fall to about $ 50k and be able to take big profits, this can be a strategy on the part of the bears, and corresponding to the different strategies that occur in speculative markets you must be alert to any important movement.

Even though we wont be saying its necessary but it would definitely be always been part of the market as it should always be because it cant be called on if we do only to see on direction when it comes to its price thats why we should really anticipate for these things to happen and not just always minding about going upwards because we cant really just able to see these situations.We should expect fallbacks and instead of freaking out then it would be wise if you do take advantage for you to buyback.

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November 29, 2021, 05:59:03 AM
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Even though we wont be saying its necessary but it would definitely be always been part of the market as it should always be because it cant be called on if we do only to see on direction when it comes to its price thats why we should really anticipate for these things to happen and not just always minding about going upwards because we cant really just able to see these situations.We should expect fallbacks and instead of freaking out then it would be wise if you do take advantage for you to buyback.

I hate to say this but we should be ready in any thing that might happen because here in crypto platform there's no assurance and I believe that we've already used about it. There's always be the unexpected price correction and I do hope that we might not going to get back to the time where the market of crypto were on the edge, I mean I am not sure if it's true that the history might repeat itself but in case it happen (I do hope not that so dipped like what happen way back 2018) but it is also a perfect time to take advantage and if you got a chance you might grab it, however mind your own risk, invest only what you can afford to lose.
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