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November 11, 2021, 06:18:44 PM
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Pretty impressive. The tweet says sales have begun, but there's no mention of it on their website.


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November 11, 2021, 06:52:00 PM
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Pretty impressive. The tweet says sales have begun, but there's no mention of it on their website.



I would get one but long wait for delivery’s.

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November 12, 2021, 06:55:56 PM
Last edit: November 14, 2021, 06:41:21 PM by wndsnb
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I wonder how they are pricing these and what the payment terms are for delivery 12 months out. They typically do a % at order placement and then the balance before shipment for bulk orders, right? Still very risky, 12 months is forever. Maybe they'd do credits if the profitability crashes like they did 2019...

Saw a listing for a minimum of 120 units delivered over 6 months starting Q3 '22. Asking $80/TH, so $11,200 each. 25% up front, 35% 6 months out, the remainder 1.5 months out.

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November 16, 2021, 11:53:37 PM
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Saw a listing for a minimum of 120 units delivered over 6 months starting Q3 '22. Asking $80/TH, so $11,200 each. 25% up front, 35% 6 months out, the remainder 1.5 months out.

That's about accurate according to a "maybe leaked" document from Bitmain, the Q4 price is $75/TH,



But the "terms" have changed according to Joe it's now

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35% down, 35% 6 months before each batch ships, 30% 1 month before batch ships

The listing you saw is direct from Bitmain, with a minimum order of 100-200 (people are reporting different figures but really 100 and 200 isn't much of a difference as far as I am concerned  Grin), the current retail price for this Q3 is 90$ with a MOQ of 10 pcs, so maybe someone will list MOQ of 1 at $3-7 on top of the $90, let's just go with the 5$ figure, and that will be $95 per TH for the small guys like us so $13,300.

So you pay $4,655 today, then pay another $4,655 two months later, and pay $3,990 in June, hoping to receive it by July.

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That would be good for those looking to buy then, not the ones who get the credit or coupons, the average coupon price back then was 20-30% of face value, some even went for as low as 5%, and some for free, so it doesn't help much if by the time you receive gear it's worth 50% less, but who knows? the profitability then could be 2-3x what it is now and you can sell the miner for profit, all I know is that I'll be sitting with my hands under my *** and watch how this whole mess unfolds.


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November 17, 2021, 01:05:37 AM
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We'll I'm right there with you, not going to be buying anything any time soon. Getting booted from one of my hosts, and the other has no room for more gear. I have a bunch of S17 pros that have been sitting idle in my garage for 8 months because I have no place to run them.

Back in 2019 I bought 10 S17s, and the credits they gave me to compensate for the drop in profitability between when I ordered and when they were delivered was enough to buy 5 S17 pros.


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November 21, 2021, 08:21:37 AM
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Interesting Shocked  Big public companies are mining. Money does not matter may be. Stock Play can cancel out the loss if future S19xp lose value when it ship. More interesting to see these public companies spending near $1,000,000 per 1 Mega Watt building the futuristic data centers while make shift low electric price data center canceling low paying existing customers but filling up with high paying customers. Data centers realized they need more money from the customers to support their up keeping of the infrastructure or it is not sustainable.  The Chicken and Egg show. If keep the data center with old day setup, new generation equipment will not work well, but to upgrade to perform well with new generation, it will cost few times more money than old generation equipment days.  Easier to let go existing customers and sign up new customers with new generation hardware and the higher more realistic cost based data center fee to enter new era of bitcoin mining drama

somewhere I remember seeing Satoshi said if anything that kills bitcoin, it be the greed. If technology needs money to innovate, hope the responsible community invest proper amount into the project, not pay the lowest and build it on shaky foundation base to only collapse later on like Florida apartment
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October 23, 2022, 03:31:30 AM
Last edit: October 24, 2022, 09:24:15 PM by slurfius
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I've had one of these running for a couple hours and so far it's awesome. 142-143th

The manual shows 2 control panel variations one with the sd card slot and version 2 like I have with micro usb in the amlogic controller. I am curious if anyone has an xp that came with a Xilinx control board or has done the swap from amlogic.
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