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Question: Who will win in this fight?
GGG - 26 (100%)
Murata - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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December 20, 2021, 07:34:52 PM
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And who wouldn't want to see this great fight?

GGG will be tested again by a tough Japanese fighter who is a champion in his own. But covid-19 intervene again and so all we can do is really want for the Japanese government to ease their travel restrictions as this fight will not be move to any countries. And then maybe we can start to speculate again but obviously GGG is the fight favorite amongst us boxing fans.
As of now, we don't have that say to help ease the restrictions in Japan because we know that when it comes to disasters and plagues, they're one of the first countries to act and all we can do now is wait for the Japanese government to open again and resume this postponed fight so we can see how this ends.
We can almost say that Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan not just as a boxing fighter but because he's also a gold medalist on olympics 2012. This will be great for GGG, although we know that GGG has the upper hand in this match and Murata has held the title of MW since January this year.

If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.
Really? Wow that's impressive that he's much more famous than Inoue in their country knowing that we aren't familiar about Murata. I'm thinking it's because Murata has won a gold medal in the olympics and maybe he's been getting frequent fights locally.
Now, it's much more interesting to watch these two fighters clash, is it going to be the 7 year-reigning champion (GGG) or is it the WBA Kingpin (Murata).
And I also read in an article that this upcoming fight is named as "Big Drama" so I'm quite curious what does that mean.
BIG DRAMA isnt the first time that had been used.

Take a look on this one against szeremeta
https://www.dazn.com/en-GLOBAL/news/boxing/gennadiy-golovkin-promises-to-deliver-the-big-drama-show-in-potential-record-setting-title-defense/1hbg0bsw8pmol1ghra9la6yaaj

It had mentioned about BIG drama too and if this one make use of that word then motive would be totally be the same which is
really connected with some title defense or some comeback or something like that.

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December 20, 2021, 08:04:27 PM
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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

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December 20, 2021, 08:13:00 PM
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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

i have to agree that inoue's name here rings a bell as compared to murata. maybe because of his recent fights and the different discussions here in this forum alone. but if murata is big in his own country, then, they can get very good gate purse here, which is good for both. but let's see if there will be change of venue owed to the new wave of covid. japan will be very strict on this matter. we will see how things go with this omicron variant at the early part of next year.
this match may even be delayed if there will be more covid restrictions in most countries.

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December 20, 2021, 08:39:32 PM
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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

i have to agree that inoue's name here rings a bell as compared to murata. maybe because of his recent fights and the different discussions here in this forum alone. but if murata is big in his own country, then, they can get very good gate purse here, which is good for both. but let's see if there will be change of venue owed to the new wave of covid. japan will be very strict on this matter. we will see how things go with this omicron variant at the early part of next year.
this match may even be delayed if there will be more covid restrictions in most countries.
Fight postponement is better than a change of venue. The Japanese fans deserve to see this big fight, probably a historic fight for them especially if their hero would beat the one and only GGG. Imagine how much money they will lose if they'll change venue, and I think promoters do understands that very well as they are in the business to maximize profit of a certain fight.

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December 20, 2021, 09:58:16 PM
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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

i have to agree that inoue's name here rings a bell as compared to murata. maybe because of his recent fights and the different discussions here in this forum alone. but if murata is big in his own country, then, they can get very good gate purse here, which is good for both. but let's see if there will be change of venue owed to the new wave of covid. japan will be very strict on this matter. we will see how things go with this omicron variant at the early part of next year.
this match may even be delayed if there will be more covid restrictions in most countries.
Fight postponement is better than a change of venue. The Japanese fans deserve to see this big fight, probably a historic fight for them especially if their hero would beat the one and only GGG. Imagine how much money they will lose if they'll change venue, and I think promoters do understands that very well as they are in the business to maximize profit of a certain fight.
Change of venue would be considerable too if they would get even more revenue on that particular place compared on the older one but its true that this one adds up on expenses that they don't really like

that but of course we shouldn't cross out the probabilities of those things been mentioned about preferring on taking the fight of the home county of Murata because citizens do really love to see and
support their Hero.

GGG cant be beaten up even how well this Murata is but well we cant remove the possibilities.

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December 20, 2021, 11:38:21 PM
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Change of venue would be considerable too if they would get even more revenue on that particular place compared on the older one but its true that this one adds up on expenses that they don't really like

Revenue is not a question. The place should take place in Japan and not elsewhere. Revenue won't be the reason for the change of venue. It will just be considered if Japan will take that sports restriction policy for long as boxers need to fight following their respective roadmap.

There should be no problem if the postponement will be around 1 month or close. More time for preparations and a bit of relaxation as no pressure for both boxers.

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December 21, 2021, 12:15:21 PM
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Change of venue would be considerable too if they would get even more revenue on that particular place compared on the older one but its true that this one adds up on expenses that they don't really like

Revenue is not a question. The place should take place in Japan and not elsewhere. Revenue won't be the reason for the change of venue. It will just be considered if Japan will take that sports restriction policy for long as boxers need to fight following their respective roadmap.

There should be no problem if the postponement will be around 1 month or close. More time for preparations and a bit of relaxation as no pressure for both boxers.

I believed that it will still be in Japan, probably they are just waiting for everything to calm them and once the Japanese government sorted things out, they might allow any sports to happen again in their country.

1 month postponement is reasonable to both parties in my opinion and for sure they will be given in advance if and when the fight is going to push through again.

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December 21, 2021, 07:33:26 PM
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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

i have to agree that inoue's name here rings a bell as compared to murata. maybe because of his recent fights and the different discussions here in this forum alone. but if murata is big in his own country, then, they can get very good gate purse here, which is good for both. but let's see if there will be change of venue owed to the new wave of covid. japan will be very strict on this matter. we will see how things go with this omicron variant at the early part of next year.
this match may even be delayed if there will be more covid restrictions in most countries.
Fight postponement is better than a change of venue. The Japanese fans deserve to see this big fight, probably a historic fight for them especially if their hero would beat the one and only GGG. Imagine how much money they will lose if they'll change venue, and I think promoters do understands that very well as they are in the business to maximize profit of a certain fight.
A change of venue will only result to frustrations and dismay of the Japanese fans as they are indeed really rooting to see their hailed hero to fight in Saitama, Japan versus the great GGG. So they have done it the right way to just postpone the fight, and I bet that the tickets are already sold out even before the postponed news was released all over the country due to the governments restriction and closing of borders.

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If he is viewed as a Hero then this is a big fight in Japan and people will surely watch this big fight. I read some article that Murata is even more popular than Inoue and I didn't expect that, but with that information, I now expect that Murata will have all the pressure as he is fighting a known great fighter and a champion as well.

I didn't expect that Murata is far more famous in Japan rather than Inoue, I mean for the meantime here in forum the upcoming fights of Inoue are the most awaited fights of every bettors. However, since it is mentioned thag Murata is viewed as a hero of Japan in terms of his boxing career then this upcoming fight of him with GGG will surely one of the most awaited fight in Japan, but since due to pandemic it is rescheduled, I just do hope this fight will be push through by next year.

They have the same path in my opinion, started in Japan and then fight bigger names in the US.

The thing is that Inoue fights in lower classes and that's where maybe casual fans followed most as compare to the heavier weight classes like the Middleweight division.

Hopefully, this fight is still going to happen in early part of 2022 because this is very intriguing stylistic match up.

i have to agree that inoue's name here rings a bell as compared to murata. maybe because of his recent fights and the different discussions here in this forum alone. but if murata is big in his own country, then, they can get very good gate purse here, which is good for both. but let's see if there will be change of venue owed to the new wave of covid. japan will be very strict on this matter. we will see how things go with this omicron variant at the early part of next year.
this match may even be delayed if there will be more covid restrictions in most countries.
Fight postponement is better than a change of venue. The Japanese fans deserve to see this big fight, probably a historic fight for them especially if their hero would beat the one and only GGG. Imagine how much money they will lose if they'll change venue, and I think promoters do understands that very well as they are in the business to maximize profit of a certain fight.
A change of venue will only result to frustrations and dismay of the Japanese fans as they are indeed really rooting to see their hailed hero to fight in Saitama, Japan versus the great GGG. So they have done it the right way to just postpone the fight, and I bet that the tickets are already sold out even before the postponed news was released all over the country due to the governments restriction and closing of borders.
Almost everything is on postponement as of now which we know the common reason and if they had concluded that this one would be the venue then they would rather delay or postpone rather than on going to another venue which i do agree that fans of Murata would definitely get frustrated if they do know that they would really be trying to make change of venue. For now lets just wait on when this fight would be resumed out.
There are lots of fights had been cancelled or been postponed due to those very common reason.
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December 22, 2021, 02:46:06 AM
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^^ Yep, for sure everyone didn't anticipated the new covid-19 strain and that's why they set up a fight in Japan, like this one and Ioka vs Ancajas fight.

Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

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Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

I'm not really sure who set up this fight and why in Japan, I reckon the deal was brokered by Murata's manager that's why it will be held in their country. Nonetheless, it's a good choice because Japanese loves their boxers as they think of them as national hero's too. But as you have said, their government has really to do this measures not to allow any sporting events in their country to prevent the spread of the new Covid-19 variant so the fight should wait a bit.

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December 23, 2021, 11:46:20 AM
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Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

I'm not really sure who set up this fight and why in Japan, I reckon the deal was brokered by Murata's manager that's why it will be held in their country. Nonetheless, it's a good choice because Japanese loves their boxers as they think of them as national hero's too. But as you have said, their government has really to do this measures not to allow any sporting events in their country to prevent the spread of the new Covid-19 variant so the fight should wait a bit.

I was also surprised to hear that the venue will be held in Japan, so yes, most probably Murata and his manager has something to do with it.

And remember that Japanese are willing to shell out huge money if ever an event like boxing is going to be held there. Remember the Floyd exhibition match in Japan like 2 years ago and in the same time frame? That exhibition match alone proved that millions can flow in just one boxing match with good names involved, in this case GGG vs their very own.
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December 23, 2021, 11:52:45 AM
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Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

I'm not really sure who set up this fight and why in Japan, I reckon the deal was brokered by Murata's manager that's why it will be held in their country. Nonetheless, it's a good choice because Japanese loves their boxers as they think of them as national hero's too. But as you have said, their government has really to do this measures not to allow any sporting events in their country to prevent the spread of the new Covid-19 variant so the fight should wait a bit.

I was also surprised to hear that the venue will be held in Japan, so yes, most probably Murata and his manager has something to do with it.

And remember that Japanese are willing to shell out huge money if ever an event like boxing is going to be held there. Remember the Floyd exhibition match in Japan like 2 years ago and in the same time frame? That exhibition match alone proved that millions can flow in just one boxing match with good names involved, in this case GGG vs their very own.

What's wrong with the venue? I think Japan is a good venue for boxing as well, big fights should not only take place in US but also in Asia or in UAE because it's a world title fight and Murata is also a champion in their country, in fact they acknowledge them as their hero.

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December 23, 2021, 04:36:07 PM
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Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

I'm not really sure who set up this fight and why in Japan, I reckon the deal was brokered by Murata's manager that's why it will be held in their country. Nonetheless, it's a good choice because Japanese loves their boxers as they think of them as national hero's too. But as you have said, their government has really to do this measures not to allow any sporting events in their country to prevent the spread of the new Covid-19 variant so the fight should wait a bit.
There are probably many factors about why this is the case, the first factor is the money, GGG is a star all over the world but this is not the case for Murata, and since he is the champion then it makes sense for him to receive more money home than in any other venue.

And the second factor is that as we know as the local and the champion Murata will have an advantage with the judges, and it will allow him to more easily retain his title, and that advantage is important when you are fighting someone like GGG.
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Unfortunately, it is what it is, and yes, no need to change the venue of the fight. The promoters have invested their money already here. And they are not going to just move the venue somewhere else because it will involved another set of money that they can't recoup.

I'm not really sure who set up this fight and why in Japan, I reckon the deal was brokered by Murata's manager that's why it will be held in their country. Nonetheless, it's a good choice because Japanese loves their boxers as they think of them as national hero's too. But as you have said, their government has really to do this measures not to allow any sporting events in their country to prevent the spread of the new Covid-19 variant so the fight should wait a bit.
There are probably many factors about why this is the case, the first factor is the money, GGG is a star all over the world but this is not the case for Murata, and since he is the champion then it makes sense for him to receive more money home than in any other venue.

And the second factor is that as we know as the local and the champion Murata will have an advantage with the judges, and it will allow him to more easily retain his title, and that advantage is important when you are fighting someone like GGG.
We've discussed about the hometown decision few pages back, while there are individuals who agree with how the way you see it. However, we all know how discipline the Japanese is, so I doubt that there will be homecook decision just in case the fight goes to the judges scorecard. So with that said, I don't think that Murata will have an advantage to the judges. If they see that their boy is losing, then they are going to score it the way it is and not make it appear that he won the fight.

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December 23, 2021, 11:44:32 PM
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And the second factor is that as we know as the local and the champion Murata will have an advantage with the judges, and it will allow him to more easily retain his title, and that advantage is important when you are fighting someone like GGG.

There's no Japanese judge if I remember correctly. Do you think as a host country, they can influence the decision of foreign judges? What if Murata really scores lots of points. If there's something not right with the decision, we will see it clearly if we watch the fight.

Let's disregard the flaws in the result. Judges will have a fair result on that match and I'm willing to bet on it.
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With the postponement, this fight might not push through. The sad thing is that time is running out of these fighters. Youth is not on their side. And they have been inactive for a considerably long time already before the day of their match arrives, GGG for more than a year and Murata more than 2 years. If I were the organizers and promoters of this fight, I would rather look for a place somewhere that doesn't have a strict travel policy for foreigners. We know there is a risk because the new Omicron variant is already spreading but there must be a nice country that could host this match.
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With the postponement, this fight might not push through. The sad thing is that time is running out of these fighters. Youth is not on their side. And they have been inactive for a considerably long time already before the day of their match arrives, GGG for more than a year and Murata more than 2 years. If I were the organizers and promoters of this fight, I would rather look for a place somewhere that doesn't have a strict travel policy for foreigners. We know there is a risk because the new Omicron variant is already spreading but there must be a nice country that could host this match.
Don't say that, it's already postponed, not canceled, so we still have to be optimistic that the right will push through early next year. This is a big fight, both fighters will have a chance to proved who is the better fighter, and make some enormous pay as well, so don't give up on this one, be more positive that the fight will still happen.

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December 25, 2021, 02:00:13 AM
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With the postponement, this fight might not push through. The sad thing is that time is running out of these fighters. Youth is not on their side. And they have been inactive for a considerably long time already before the day of their match arrives, GGG for more than a year and Murata more than 2 years. If I were the organizers and promoters of this fight, I would rather look for a place somewhere that doesn't have a strict travel policy for foreigners. We know there is a risk because the new Omicron variant is already spreading but there must be a nice country that could host this match.
Don't say that, it's already postponed, not canceled, so we still have to be optimistic that the right will push through early next year. This is a big fight, both fighters will have a chance to proved who is the better fighter, and make some enormous pay as well, so don't give up on this one, be more positive that the fight will still happen.

I am still optimistic that this fight will happen. I hope it will happen even if it means it is not fought in Japan. I hope it is only postponed. But sometimes if it is repeatedly postponed and for months, the sense of excitement and anticipation is gradually gone. And then the desire to fight the same opponent is lost which results in looking for another opponent. That again will take time. And since these fighters are not getting any younger they're already losing a lot of opportunities.
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December 28, 2021, 07:22:07 PM
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With the postponement, this fight might not push through. The sad thing is that time is running out of these fighters. Youth is not on their side. And they have been inactive for a considerably long time already before the day of their match arrives, GGG for more than a year and Murata more than 2 years. If I were the organizers and promoters of this fight, I would rather look for a place somewhere that doesn't have a strict travel policy for foreigners. We know there is a risk because the new Omicron variant is already spreading but there must be a nice country that could host this match.
I think the same however most likely there are contractual obligations that does not allow them to do that, and even if they were not we need to consider all the expenses that are necessary to organize and promote a fight, a change of venue will without a doubt increase the cost for the promoters making the fight unprofitable for them, so I think it is way more likely we could see the fight taking place where it was originally agreed to or a cancellation of the fight than a change of venue.
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