A positive evaluation of gambling.

[Poker Player]

I'm sorry, but the fact that you only say positive things makes me laugh. It's not strange that those of you who have responded so far all carry gambling site signatures. If it were not for that, from any objective analysis, being a gambler has more negative characteristics than positive ones. For example:

1. )Persistence in exercising an activity to lose money in the long term.
2.) Behavior that contradicts your rational thinking (such as continuing to play when you have lost too much and you know you should stop).
Etc.

[acroman08]

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yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

[hahay]

For me it is difficult to instill a positive nature in gambling if the result is always losing, maybe you can say something positive in some ways because they and you are getting more wins every day. But for me, who doesn't always win every day, to instill a positive attitude of course requires self-awareness, because if you don't have good self-awareness in gambling then it will only have a negative impact on anyone who doesn't have good awareness. in gambling too, when we have to choose something fast, of course it must be accompanied by a high mentality as well. Factors such as high mentality and positive awareness in gambling are not shared by everyone, and this also makes it difficult for them to instill something positive in gambling.

[iv4n]

I'm sorry, but the fact that you only say positive things makes me laugh. It's not strange that those of you who have responded so far all carry gambling site signatures. If it were not for that, from any objective analysis, being a gambler has more negative characteristics than positive ones. For example:

1. )Persistence in exercising an activity to lose money in the long term.
2.) Behavior that contradicts your rational thinking (such as continuing to play when you have lost too much and you know you should stop).
Etc.

Vitamins and minerals are good for us, but taking an excessive amount of any one vitamin can cause serious health problems (hypervitaminosis, or vitamin toxicity)...

What I want to say is that every coin has two sides, and one doesn't go without another! We need to be aware of both sides and to keep things balanced, the only way to last in the long run!

Too much of anything is bad, as Mark Twain said, but too much good whiskey is barely enough! That said, we are different, we have different needs and limits, but that doesn't change the fact that we must be aware of two sides of a coin and to know how to take the best from the positive side and to keep that negative under control! We all play with fire, it's life... and that fire also has two sides! So we learn how to use that fire and take all the good, but that fire can be very bad if you don't know what are you doing...

So my point is simple..... Crazy FAIL of a guy trying to light a big fire with a lot of gasoline... too much gasoline! Boummmmm - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2h3fet

[Poker Player]

yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

Ok, I also agree with you.

Vitamins and minerals are good for us, but taking an excessive amount of any one vitamin can cause serious health problems (hypervitaminosis, or vitamin toxicity)...

What I want to say is that every coin has two sides, and one doesn't go without another! We need to be aware of both sides and to keep things balanced, the only way to last in the long run!

I don't quite buy your analogy here. Even drinking water can be bad. Drinking too much in too little time can cause death, but drinking water is mostly positive and healthy however much some use is negative while gambling is more potentially negative than positive.

However, I would like to emphasize that I am not criticizing those who gamble in a controlled manner as a hobby, mind you.

[Pmalek]

1. )Persistence in exercising an activity to lose money in the long term.
2.) Behavior that contradicts your rational thinking (such as continuing to play when you have lost too much and you know you should stop).
Etc.

I have bickered with a friend on this topic many times. He is the sort of gambler who puts money on sports he knows nothing about and gets frustrated if the results don't go his way. If his bets are unsuccessful (and they usually are), you can always hear how close he was. He needed only one goal to win, he was so unlucky because his team conceded an equalizer in the last minutes, etc. 

What follows is him not admitting defeat and instead placing more money on similar matches in an attempt to win back what he already gambled away and to profit even more. I think you know how that ends. I have seen very few people who know how to gamble. Those who understand a few leagues of a certain sport and who can spot when the bookies have made mistakes that they can take advantage of.

[Poker Player]

I have bickered with a friend on this topic many times. He is the sort of gambler who puts money on sports he knows nothing about and gets frustrated if the results don't go his way. If his bets are unsuccessful (and they usually are), you can always hear how close he was. He needed only one goal to win, he was so unlucky because his team conceded an equalizer in the last minutes, etc.  

What follows is him not admitting defeat and instead placing more money on similar matches in an attempt to win back what he already gambled away and to profit even more. I think you know how that ends. I have seen very few people who know how to gamble. Those who understand a few leagues of a certain sport and who can spot when the bookies have made mistakes that they can take advantage of.

Your example is even better for what I am saying because sports betting is not necessarily EV-, most players are losers but some can make money if they have the skills, patience and proper bankroll management. It's like in poker, you can make money in the long run, there are winning players, but most of them are losers.

On the other hand in this thread we are talking mainly about casino games, which are EV. In the long run all, absolutely all gamblers who play casino games lose, so it's even worse to talk about only positive traits of casino gamblers.

[DU18]

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yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

I think the positive effect that the gambler gets, of course, only he will feel it, but it is different from the negative effect which of course does not only affect a gambler, but even the negative effect will affect his family and closest people, we all of course have discussed the negative impact due to gambling addiction and I agree with you, if the positive effects obtained from gambling are not comparable to the negative effects that have existed so far.

[iv4n]

Vitamins and minerals are good for us, but taking an excessive amount of any one vitamin can cause serious health problems (hypervitaminosis, or vitamin toxicity)...

What I want to say is that every coin has two sides, and one doesn't go without another! We need to be aware of both sides and to keep things balanced, the only way to last in the long run!

I don't quite buy your analogy here. Even drinking water can be bad. Drinking too much in too little time can cause death, but drinking water is mostly positive and healthy however much some use is negative while gambling is more potentially negative than positive.

However, I would like to emphasize that I am not criticizing those who gamble in a controlled manner as a hobby, mind you.

My point is simple, do it responsibly and chances of having problems are minimal or zero! Like with everything else in life! I agree that for some people gambling can be potentially more negative than positive, but there is the other side! For some people, gambling is more positive than negative...
Gambling should be entertainment, a place for relaxing and playing some nice games you like with the money you can afford to lose... without stress, doing something you like to do in your free time! And if we make some nice profit even better!

[poldanmig]

Vitamins and minerals are good for us, but taking an excessive amount of any one vitamin can cause serious health problems (hypervitaminosis, or vitamin toxicity)...

What I want to say is that every coin has two sides, and one doesn't go without another! We need to be aware of both sides and to keep things balanced, the only way to last in the long run!

I don't quite buy your analogy here. Even drinking water can be bad. Drinking too much in too little time can cause death, but drinking water is mostly positive and healthy however much some use is negative while gambling is more potentially negative than positive.

However, I would like to emphasize that I am not criticizing those who gamble in a controlled manner as a hobby, mind you.

My point is simple, do it responsibly and chances of having problems are minimal or zero! Like with everything else in life! I agree that for some people gambling can be potentially more negative than positive, but there is the other side! For some people, gambling is more positive than negative...
Gambling should be entertainment, a place for relaxing and playing some nice games you like with the money you can afford to lose... without stress, doing something you like to do in your free time! And if we make some nice profit even better!

@iv4n Many people initially think of gambling as a means to find entertainment, fun and as you say to relieve stress, I think you are right, if this happens if they win in gambling games, however, what if they lose in gambling?
Won't that only make them more stressed and maybe even worse they will be trapped to continue playing and lose their original purpose of playing, because from experience, gamblers certainly have a desire to win more and even revenge to return what they have lost in gambling.

[Ulven]

Your example is even better for what I am saying because sports betting is not necessarily EV-, most players are losers but some can make money if they have the skills, patience and proper bankroll management. It's like in poker, you can make money in the long run, there are winning players, but most of them are losers.

On the other hand in this thread we are talking mainly about casino games, which are EV. In the long run all, absolutely all gamblers who play casino games lose, so it's even worse to talk about only positive traits of casino gamblers.

 Indeed with sports betting your edge can be so big that it can cover for high variance because you don't lose on average.!!!That's why sports betting is "safer" than playing poker with the same bankroll (oh I know, poker is not a game of chance, but everyone knows variance exists, and it is like risk in the sense that if you operate without skills you can lose everything quickly.!!However, what I was pointing out that with sports betting you can find yourself in a situation where you are not able to recover even if you had a big edge.!!!
For example, let's say you bet fore postflop for 3 months and go up about $10/day. You want to play MTT with $200 bankroll and so you manage your sports betting strategy by re-balancing the bankroll every time it hits $200.

[famososMuertos]

It is basic to know that the first thing you have to face are defeats, it is a priority to understand it, before starting to put money in any type of bet, if you are not able to have that attitude before you should acquire it in the process, we are in the casinos To overcome the defeats, yes! overcome the defeats, then reaching the end of the month as close to the ROI in green is the objective, if it is not possible, nothing happens, keep trying.

Losing is something intrinsic to the game, but it is something that many do not "study" are not informed, I particularly started in poker, never before played even other types of bets only poker and I dedicated myself to studying the game, the psychological documentation It is important, the documentation on the statistics is important, you have to study any type of documentation.

In any type of bet the long term is the one that commands and is the one that gives you positive results, whoever plays to win today, tomorrow and the day after does not reach the end of the month and spends it crying.

Finally, you must assume with the passage of time to differentiate but very well when you are betting for fun or when you are playing to make this an additional income or even take on the game professionally.

In summary:
-Documenting yourself, in the game, statistics and psychology.
-Share with other players your game statistics, lost winnings.
-Depending on the analysis of the previous point, so run solutions as change the rhythm of the game, level of bets if necessary, etc.
-Take on the challenge of taking a specific position in relation to whether you are a recreational player, want to earn additional earnings or if you see a future as a full-time player.

Finally, try not to bet for long periods of time, that can give you an indication that you are so dominant over the game and not the opposite.

[Cling18]

These are the traits that we should adopt in gambling as we learn from our betting mistakes. It's a good thing that no matter how we fail or we lose, we'll still be able to learn positive traits. However, not everyone could learn and adopt things this way. Some gamblers get into a worse situation that affects their traits negatively. Things will still depend on how we handle things as well as our emotions.

[Findingnemo]

I think what I have learnt from gambling as well as crypto trading is how to move on from the loss, if we keep regretting about past is not going to change anything so that's what I say about gambling made me better which also helped me personally in lot of financially tight situation to overcome it but never misunderstand that I overcame with gambling wins because I am sort of unlucky so didn't made any considerable amount to be honest, I just let it to drain for fun and nothing more serious.

[mu_enrico]

I admire those high rollers because of their fearless attitude. IMO those who are a high roller grow massive balls of steel, something that I hope to achieve. Legends said many top traders and millionaire/billionaire have this kind of balls, along with other alpha male traits. Thus, it's necessary to train your balls to complete you as an alpha male. Gambling, especially go all-in high, can train and shape it.

Jokes aside, it's true tho Testosterone Levels Predict City Traders' Profitability.

[xSkylarx]

I think what I have learnt from gambling as well as crypto trading is how to move on from the loss, if we keep regretting about past is not going to change anything so that's what I say about gambling made me better which also helped me personally in lot of financially tight situation to overcome it but never misunderstand that I overcame with gambling wins because I am sort of unlucky so didn't made any considerable amount to be honest, I just let it to drain for fun and nothing more serious.

Well this really a good point and a moved. I do gambling but not that a lot but still i cant moved on with losses and sometime i tend to try to get it back and end up losing. As my self i think the positive impact with gambling to me is taking risk tho the possibilty of winning is too low and thinking of how do i make it high to win in higher rate because before i am scared in risking but when i started gambling i say to my self i bet this money why not invest it , it is like gambling to me and thats the time i started investing

[macson]

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yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

the percentage is 65% gamblers have bad characteristics and 35% don't have it.  those who gamble must have a devious nature that slowly awakens in them, and it can't be obtained from their other activities.  but after all gambling still destroys the lives, thoughts and behavior of the players and if it gets addicted then it is a nightmare.

[wxa7115]

Absolutely, despite the negative words that we've been heard from the people around we are also getting back the benefits that they never have. And it is all about building ourselves to become a better person internally and having a positive mindset.
I'd found myself now being a patient and risk-taking personality which I had never seen before. Too many changes have been made and I could be proud of it.

The benefits stated on the OP can be gained through many activities and not only through gambling, so I do not think we can claim we are getting any benefits that the rest of the population is missing.

That being said it is important to try to get something positive from all the things we experience and obviously this includes gambling as well, however we must not close our eyes to the fact that negative traits can be gained thought gambling as well if we are not careful, which is why we must always exercise caution when we gamble.

[l3pox]

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yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

for sure there are more negative aspects than positive ones
of course one can mitigate the negative aspects with practices like limiting bankroll and time available for gambling

it's good to talk about positive sides without ignoring the negatives, and doing the opposite too, talking about negatives without ignoring the positive sides of it

[carlfebz2]

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yeah, I agree, gambling has more negative characteristics than positive ones and people here probably knew that since subjects regarding the negative effects of gambling have been talked about here on the board(at least every time there is a thread regarding addiction or related to it). I think it is not bad to sometimes talk about what positive characteristics someone could get from gamlbing.

for sure there are more negative aspects than positive ones
of course one can mitigate the negative aspects with practices like limiting bankroll and time available for gambling

it's good to talk about positive sides without ignoring the negatives, and doing the opposite too, talking about negatives without ignoring the positive sides of it

Nothing on this world doesnt have negative nor positive impact once you do engage with it and gambling isnt an exemption to that which you should really mind off on how things should be done on a controlled manner.

If you do let yourself get lost in track then you would really be having those kind of common problems with gambling.If you do really mind off
on how things do work then you would really able to save your ass.

Just be mindful on your actions then you would really make yourself able to avoid unfortunate things.