Can a permanent ban be reconsidered

[Daniel91]

But it's stressful growing an account from scratch to a high profiled account only to get banned permanently without any form of future consideration.

This is a reality that everyone has to accept, because plagiarism is a form of virtual theft, and if you steal something in real life and get caught you have to bear the consequences. However, I believe that everyone who made such a mistake, and was a valuable member of the forum, got a second chance, the only difference is that some waited for a second chance for 2 days, and some for almost 2 years.

I've seen maybe two cases of a permaban being overturned in all my years here.  

I remember there were a lot more than 2 cases, especially considering that some got a perma-ban which was then changed to a signature ban (see a post from @DdmrDdmr). I well remember the long-running case of @RegulusHr being unbanned, and also the case of @bill gator who claimed he didn’t know about the plagiarized posts because he bought an account from someone, but also @Aveatrex, @ChiNgadOr, @tvplus006, and some other members who were given a second chance.

This is what bothers me too, unequal criteria in similar cases.
I agree that plagiarism is a very serious offense and should be punished and I also agree that deserving forum members, with a high reputation and the support of the forum community, should be given a new chance.
What I don't understand is why some cases of permaban are resolved in 2 days and some are resolved in 2 years, as was the case with RegulusHr.
In the case of RegulusHr, the whole local community gave him their support, and that support didn't stop for a full 2 years, and that was the main reason that the permaban for Regulushr was permanently removed.
To answer the question of the OP, permaban can be reconsidered, but only in the case of a deserving and distinguished member of the forum, who has the great support of the forum community.

[Kavelj22]

I do not agree with toleration for those who break forum rules. I think also that exceptions can't be done but case by case situations.

Moderators or forum admin will review and consider and resolve issues on a case-by-case. Some people have been permanently ban before because they had useful contribution to this forum but the mistake was not done on purpose. One of the name I mentioned above has been experiencing it for several days due to plagiarism even though the ban was finally canceled.

I can understand your point very well. I think it's pathetic to see profiles built over time to be destroyed in such a way like i described in my above post.

Maybe it's my fault being sensible with such cases, even though i see how many profiles lost their profile reputation by joining a signature campaign promoting a scam or encouraged to break forum rules.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Maybe it's my fault being sensible with such cases, even though i see how many profiles lost their profile reputation by joining a signature campaign promoting a scam or encouraged to break forum rules.

You forget that no one is forcing you to participate in fraudulent companies, and people themselves subscribe to them. Nobody drags them there by force.
Moreover, the second company 1XBit opened, managers have reduced payments, but note that clean accounts still sign up for participation, although they understand that they will be marked with a negative tag. What is the conclusion? Some people don't give a damn about reputation, money comes first.

[Pmalek]

There is this evil IP which can be lifted by paying a small amount of fees but I do not think it has anything to do with getting banned permanently.

If you get permanently banned, your IP will receive a certain amount of evil points. The same happens to other IPs in your range. That's why there are cases of people registering here for the first time and getting that evil points message that asks them to pay a penalty fee to fully access the forum. So there is a direct connection between bans and evil IPs.

Alt accounts will be banned for ban evasion there is no doubt in that but let's assume someone never used any cryptocurrency address in the banned account and the newly created one then its really not possible to prove they sre evading ban but admin csn find it if I am not wrong.

The admins don't really do that kind of research on their own unless someone reported a user for ban evasion. But in those cases, I am sure they only look at the presented evidence by the reporter.  

This is what bothers me too, unequal criteria in similar cases.

That's just the way of life. You can see it in all segments of society. Remember what Orwell said in the Animal Farm?

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

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[Coyster]

What I don't understand is why some cases of permaban are resolved in 2 days and some are resolved in 2 years

I think it depends a whole lot on the case itself, the user, how the appeal was presented and the evidence delivered to the moderators, obviously some appeal cases will last longer than others before it's either revolved or debunked, sometimes it depends a lot on when the plagiarism was committed, how many times it was committed and the intent with which it was committed, in other instance, the moderators try to take a look at the reputation of the accused user, if the user actually deserves a second chance or not, or if a signature ban would be the best verdict. Other times, if the accused user cannot present enough evidence in their appeal, then it could take the mods time to come to a conclusion. Having said that, I know some cases just takes a few days to resolve, but if you look closely, such cases are easier and straight to the point that the ones that will prolly take many months

[Findingnemo]

What I don't understand is why some cases of permaban are resolved in 2 days and some are resolved in 2 years

I think it depends a whole lot on the case itself, the user, how the appeal was presented and the evidence delivered to the moderators, obviously some appeal cases will last longer than others before it's either revolved or debunked, sometimes it depends a lot on when the plagiarism was committed, how many times it was committed and the intent with which it was committed, in other instance, the moderators try to take a look at the reputation of the accused user, if the user actually deserves a second chance or not, or if a signature ban would be the best verdict. Other times, if the accused user cannot present enough evidence in their appeal, then it could take the mods time to come to a conclusion. Having said that, I know some cases just takes a few days to resolve, but if you look closely, such cases are easier and straight to the point that the ones that will prolly take many months

I don't suppose the double standards because its unfair what if a newbie actually plagiarized something and get punished with permaban but he has the potential to become one of the biggest asset to this community? If there is a second chance then it should be for everyone but the second chances we are talking about is not happening much often so its admins decision so nothing can be done against it.

[Igebotz]

I guess Op knows that he was talking about establishing a high-profile account and then failing to follow the rules once and being banned. Is there any way the Admin could create a second route for defaulters, such as having durations for bans, to give banned users a second chance and hope? I realize this is a pointless debate, but it would make more sense if temporary bans were issued to reputable members instead of permanent bans.

But it's stressful growing an account from scratch to a high profiled account only to get banned permanently without any form of future consideration.

If an account is banned then the account never can grow and become a high profiled account. The moment it's banned, it lose the ability to make posts and to rank up you need to post, increase activity with required merit.

A permanent means permanent. So there are no way to make it none-permanent. 

[qwertyup23]

I remember a few years ago, there was a ban wave that banned most of the accounts (even high-ranking ones) due to plagiarism. While some asked for an appeal, many were left unheeded. Most of the cases that got appealed were accounts who made a contribution to the forum and the ban that they received were switched to temporary bans (e.g. signature ban for a year, etc.).

Bottomline is, bans are considered in a case-to-case basis depending on the amount of contribution you made to the forum. While the admins have the discretion whether to allow it or not, if you break forum rules then you suffer the consequences of your actions.

[Lucius]

I remember a few years ago, there was a ban wave that banned most of the accounts (even high-ranking ones) due to plagiarism.

I do not know the exact number, but it was certainly thousands of accounts, most of which are still lower-ranked. I think it was a really good move that made the forum purge combined with the introduction of the merit system. Some have certainly paid a high price because they were reckless at some point, but deliberately plagiarizing someone’s work has no justification.

Of course there are always exceptions, and those looking for a second chance got it if they were of any value to the forum.