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November 20, 2021, 08:11:02 PM
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By the way for which account you're talking about since this account has only 2 posts and none from Indonesian board.



nama akun : senyumbitcoin (indonesia) ---  my name : smilebitcoin (inggris)
If you are talking about your account then you didn't post anything in Indonesian board then how can you complain that you didn't get any merit even if you are a good poster there. Am I the only one who is confused? Roll Eyes

Merit source become inactive is one of the reason why there is less distribution so if you feel there is enough good post but not enough merits then you can report it to merit giveaway threads or even apply yourself to become one of the merit source.

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November 21, 2021, 01:27:42 AM
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you are free to apply to be a merit source if you believe your local need an active merit source. theymos may consider including you as merit source based on your judgement of sharing merits.

I don't know about that cause a year ago my fellow legendary countryman applying for merit source but sad to say didn't accepted. And I don't know also about this if low ranks applying for Merit Source got accepted. Anyways that's not the problems here we can Post in global section and get merit.
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November 21, 2021, 07:57:23 AM
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you are free to apply to be a merit source if you believe your local need an active merit source. theymos may consider including you as merit source based on your judgement of sharing merits.

I don't know about that cause a year ago my fellow legendary countryman applying for merit source but sad to say didn't accepted. And I don't know also about this if low ranks applying for Merit Source got accepted. Anyways that's not the problems here we can Post in global section and get merit.

Based on these statistics:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231446.0

it seems to me that there is still enough merits available in your local part of the forum, for quality posts.
Of course, if you disagree with this statement and think you need a new local merit source, then why not apply for a merit source in person?
Theymos is a reasonable person and if you can prove with arguments that your local part of the forum lacks merits for quality posts, that will be corrected.
Only a person who has the support of the local community and a good reputation on the forum should apply for a merit source.

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November 21, 2021, 08:51:30 AM
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I was just going to comment on that. I just took a look at the data for the Indonesian board to compare it with our own Croatian local. Although the Indonesian guys don't have such a good merit per post ratio as we do, they have more merit senders/receivers than the Croatians, members of their local board have received 60 merits more than in ours, and they have almost double the number of posts than the Croatians. And this is just the data for September. In August, everything is reversed and we were ahead of their local.

Nevertheless, there are merits in the Indonesian local and they are being distributed. Since this is surely an alt-account of yours, no one can comment on the quality of your posts because we don't know who you are. Hopefully you are better at getting your message across in Indonesian than you are in English because most people won't be bothered to read such posts as the one in the OP.  

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Based on the threads that rikafip [CHARTS] Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity keep updated on a monthly basis, I can say that your local board has become one that has over 200 merit distribution in recent month, probably far more than some of the other local board. So what's the point of you complaining, did you not get anything?
It is also fair to say that among the most active local boards,  Indonesian (and Portuguese) are the the least merited ones. I haven't published this month's overview yet (should be out in a day or two) but I can say that merit/post situation in October  looks even worse than during September for their board; number of posts went up by ~30% and number of merits shared went down by ~15%. Combine that and you get 0.14 merit/post ratio, which is pretty low.

Another metric that is worth mentioning is amount of people that are part of the merit system in Indonesian board; you can clearly see that their board sticks out, among the ones with similar amount of merit shared. That number even went up in October, with Indoensian board having 28 senders and 40 merit receivers.



Based only on those numbers (and not going into quality of posts there as I don't speak Bahasa), I am not surprised that someone from Indonesian board opened this thread as we had very similar situation in my local board (Croatian) up until few months ago when we got few merit sources.


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November 21, 2021, 11:57:38 AM
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To be honest - I see many Indonesian members prefer to interact on the global side rather than on the local side. .

ok i know i haven't made any contribution in forum but of course i very happy and excited to show my knowledge about bitcoin,, after someone +1 for my journey in global section. .

Well, to be honest, if you want to have a high level discussion about any subject related to computer science, coding, new technology, etc you must be able to speak English, because all high level discussion happen in English.

As the best discussions are in English, it is natural that most merits will flow to the global forum.

In addition, as far as I managed to notice during the time I was on the forum, the activity in local boards is often lower, since they are rarely been visited. For example, in my board (Ukrainian), new posts appear every 1-2 days. Respectively, even if you wrote a good post, it should take some time until someone notices it. In general discussions, there are more chances to draw someone's attention to your post, since many more participants are concentrated there.

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November 21, 2021, 04:08:49 PM
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There is a thread that I created specifically to monitor the activities of the Indonesian Local Board which I regularly update at the beginning of every month from the number of post, merit distribution, and active users. You can take a closer look here if you need it for comparison. [CHART] Tampilan Bulanan Aktivitas Lokal Board Bahasa Indonesia


I was just going to comment on that. I just took a look at the data for the Indonesian board to compare it with our own Croatian local. Although the Indonesian guys don't have such a good merit per post ratio as we do, they have more merit senders/receivers than the Croatians, members of their local board have received 60 merits more than in ours, and they have almost double the number of posts than the Croatians. And this is just the data for September. In August, everything is reversed and we were ahead of their local.
The merit-per-post ratio in Indonesian Local Board may be much lower than in other Local board because many post may be judged of low quality by merit source or users who typically submit merit. It's hard to find some bounty hunters posting something quality on my Local Board and maybe this make the ratio not great. But I'm happy because in the last few month we managed to keep it.

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November 21, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
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you are free to apply to be a merit source if you believe your local need an active merit source. theymos may consider including you as merit source based on your judgement of sharing merits.

I don't know about that cause a year ago my fellow legendary countryman applying for merit source but sad to say didn't accepted. And I don't know also about this if low ranks applying for Merit Source got accepted. Anyways that's not the problems here we can Post in global section and get merit.
There is no rank criteria to become merit source and the merit sources information isn't publicaly available so we also can't say that newbies can't be a merit source but the criteria from theymos is very clear collect 10 worthy post which deserve merits and you should be a recognised member in the community.

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November 22, 2021, 06:58:01 AM
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I don't know about that cause a year ago my fellow legendary countryman applying for merit source but sad to say didn't accepted. And I don't know also about this if low ranks applying for Merit Source got accepted. Anyways that's not the problems here we can Post in global section and get merit.
As far as I know, the lowest rank that got his merit source application accepted was Full Member, so it's not like you have to be Legendary member with thousands of merits earned to get accepted. But it makes sense that merit sources are usually higher ranks (Sr Member and up)  as it mean you already shared quite a lot of merit and have some experience with it, and you had time to build forum reputation which is also important I think.



There is no rank criteria to become merit source and the merit sources information isn't publicaly available so we also can't say that newbies can't be a merit source but the criteria from theymos is very clear collect 10 worthy post which deserve merits and you should be a recognised member in the community.
Those two things contradict really, being a newbie and a recognized member of the community. So it's safe to assume that no newbie has no chance of becoming a merit source.

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As far as I know, the lowest rank that got his merit source application accepted was Full Member, so it's not like you have to be Legendary member with thousands of merits earned to get accepted. But it makes sense that merit sources are usually higher ranks (Sr Member and up)  as it mean you already shared quite a lot of merit and have some experience with it, and you had time to build forum reputation which is also important I think.
Thanks for the clarification and I agree with you that  we are in new era I think theymos priorities is that Sr.Member up applying for Merit source got a chance to be accepted. Cause like you said the more you achieve high ranks you experience lot of things like giving Merit to those quality posters. But In my opinion rank doesn't matter even if you are in low rank atleast you helped those new users who've trying Thier best to post quality thread and reply.
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November 23, 2021, 04:02:42 AM
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If you are talking about your account then you didn't post anything in Indonesian board then how can you complain that you didn't get any merit even if you are a good poster there. Am I the only one who is confused? Roll Eyes

Merit source become inactive is one of the reason why there is less distribution so if you feel there is enough good post but not enough merits then you can report it to merit giveaway threads or even apply yourself to become one of the merit source.
I am quite confused. Why would op complain about their local board having less merit circulation compared to other local boards when op didn't even post in there. Well, we can ask op to post on Indonesian board as it is useless to complain when op himself didn't post on the local board as you have said.

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November 23, 2021, 05:01:57 AM
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Those two things contradict really, being a newbie and a recognized member of the community. So it's safe to assume that no newbie has no chance of becoming a merit source.
newbie just need 28 days and 1 merit to achieve the next rank and follows but when someone is trying to contribute something towards their community they will get the recognition very soon so it will make them to be one of the recognised member in the community, if full member can be a merit source then a member can too if they actually deserves it.

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