Btc price sideways not what the traders want

[Jating]

Crypto is here for giving profit otherwize no point of crypto.

*facepalm*

I think you'll find it does have other uses.  Stick around, read a few topics outside of the Trading Discussion boards and take some time to learn.

And I think this is the main reason why noobs lost big money in crypto market because they always think that can make lots of profit in short amount of time.

On the contrary, if the pattern is moving sideways then why not take the opportunity to buy bitcoin again? Isn't it this is one of the first rule in the market? BTFD, I guess everyone is really focus on the expectations that the price will hit 6 digits at the end of the year. And they are all just waiting for it to happen.

[Ararbermas]

Sideways is very hard to analyse reason most traders don't like that kind of situation. Especially those traders who preferred long term, because if you look in a higher time frame its a consolidation and you don't know yet if it will gonna break out above or below. Clueless for short. Lol that's why i don't like it as well wherein much better to find another coin that showing a good structure because if you trade in it there's a chance of losses,  but unless if you're doing intraday because you can gain quick profits from it wherein only need is support and resistance where you can buy and sell for how many times.  

[mk4]

Without leverage all is pointless leverage makes point.
Crypto is here for giving profit otherwize no point of crypto.

LOL this is some peak crypto stuff right here. Sounds like we need another brutal bear market.

If you only want to focus on profit and don't want to use leverage, then go trade the thousands and thousands of available altcoins on exchanges. No one is really forcing you to stick with BTC.

[Peanutswar]

The trader is pulling up and down their favorite coins and if you are a trader and cant decide on the market trend better to wait for the proper signal than have the risk on it. Some people make a trade with this small movement and they put some leverage so even though it's just a small amount of trade but the higher the leverage the higher the chance of profit. If you are having doubt with the sideways wait for the right time this is the reason why we have our technical indicators to give a hint or early signals.

[Rehan Zakir]

If btc goes sideways it is a very good point for entry in altcoins. It means that alt coins are getting stable when btc price is moving in a range. So, now it's the same condition. Btc is moving near 60000$ and sometimes it touches 60000$. So, it's best time for alt coin season.

[beerlover]

The trader is pulling up and down their favorite coins and if you are a trader and cant decide on the market trend better to wait for the proper signal than have the risk on it. Some people make a trade with this small movement and they put some leverage so even though it's just a small amount of trade but the higher the leverage the higher the chance of profit. If you are having doubt with the sideways wait for the right time this is the reason why we have our technical indicators to give a hint or early signals.

I would say that trying to make a bit of an action with these small gains is a very risky business because it could always drop as well, we do not know what it will do and how it could be reflected into the leveraged trades as well.

If you do a very high leverage for these small movements, it could very well be a small drop when you are long or a small increase when you are short and could hurt you a lot. Leverage during big times is even riskier but at least it makes sense, you are doing something that is beneficial for you at a level where you gain a lot of profit. Small movements are both risky but also even with leverage doesn't justify the risk you are taking.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It is very difficult to determine what the trader wants, because the trader is not interested in whether the Bitcoin rises or falls, the merchant's approach will always be that he will have to win whether the currency rises or falls, if the currency rises, the trader must win in that rise, and if the currency goes down the trader wins on the decline, I think that who wants the currency to go up all the time is the investor, the investor is interested in the currency growing in price so that he can guarantee that his investment is not compromised and have profit, some always expect the highest possible profit, even if they have to wait years, this is a matter of concept between investor and trader.

[worldofcoins]

There's a reason why leverage exists; so traders can actually increase upside/downside even if prices are fairly flat.

And in the first place— while traders are an important aspect of markets(for liquidity, etc), everything doesn't and shouldn't revolve around them.

It all depends upon the market trend and the trend of the traders. Remember I always say that markets are always uncertain and no one can exactly predict the next step of the market. The rise and fall depend upon the behavior of traders.
Markets can never be controlled artificially. Also, in my opinion, the traders are more interested in scalping trading due to the fact of small quick profits.

[sherenikaw]

the crypto market can go up and down at any time and sometimes it is not according to the wishes of traders. it's okay, it's a normal thing and as traders we must be able to handle it well and how to keep our assets safe and profitable in the future. not everything that we want can happen, we all hope that the crypto market is always good so that we can trade well and the results are also good. but not so, this ups and downs crypto market actually makes traders have to be more challenged and smart to take advantage of the moment.

[Mahanton]

There's a reason why leverage exists; so traders can actually increase upside/downside even if prices are fairly flat.

And in the first place— while traders are an important aspect of markets(for liquidity, etc), everything doesn't and shouldn't revolve around them.

It all depends upon the market trend and the trend of the traders. Remember I always say that markets are always uncertain and no one can exactly predict the next step of the market. The rise and fall depend upon the behavior of traders.
Markets can never be controlled artificially. Also, in my opinion, the traders are more interested in scalping trading due to the fact of small quick profits.

I dont see the point or the favoritism of traders on a sideways or consolidation market knowing that there are no volatility or movement in price then i dont see for it to be that good looking since you couldnt really find any entry whether you do buy or sell because you would be having a hard time on telling on where the price
could possibly heads up.

I dont really prefer this kind of condition and i do rather see those high fluctuations yet you could really make out some positions and take
risk on making trades and get those considerable profits if you do succeed.

[Hobo66]

Actually profit can be made each and every time just it matter that what is the recent price of the coin. Perhaps you have purchase your coin at smaller worth but when few days later you see it the worth will be double therefore it is really fantastic for you. So it does not matter that price is sideways. Some people just focus on crypto signals but i think that not all of these can operate well.

[wxa7115]

Btc price sideways move not what traders want.
Trading should and must work only one way one direction.
Short or LONG
Perhaps something for SEC to deal with the finance regulaters want to regulate...well here thing they can regulate now need to stop sideways moves on the markets.
Solution here: we make CME work everyday not just sunday to friday !!
Reason why as we know when market goes one direction we earn profit with leverage one way but if sideways then its hard to use futures trading

For start let those regulaters sec and those kind of guys who eating donuts do it something useful for traders.
Every trader want this

You are really pushing it with your posts, what you say makes no sense, the majority of the markets spend most of their time going sideways, and a strong trend, whether it is upwards or downwards, is the exception and not the rule.

There is nothing to fix, this is not an issue and if you cannot obtain profits in the current market conditions then you are the one that needs to do something about it and change your strategy accordingly, and if you cannot do it then that is fine, you can just wait until the market begins to show a strong trend to trade the markets again.

[Mahanton]

Actually profit can be made each and every time just it matter that what is the recent price of the coin. Perhaps you have purchase your coin at smaller worth but when few days later you see it the worth will be double therefore it is really fantastic for you. So it does not matter that price is sideways. Some people just focus on crypto signals but i think that not all of these can operate well.

It varies depending on what trader you are but having these sideways movement wont really bother out those scalpers out there which they dont really care about of being sideways because they could make out moves
on those price volatility which is really a very hard thing to do and this is why im not really that a fan of making scalps because this is something a very hard to be done if you arent that experienced enough.
On this case on where you do see these sideways movement or something that less in volatility then all the thing you do need to do is to wait up.

[redsun114]

I dont see the point or the favoritism of traders on a sideways or consolidation market knowing that there are no volatility or movement in price then i dont see for it to be that good looking since you couldnt really find any entry whether you do buy or sell because you would be having a hard time on telling on where the price
could possibly heads up.

I dont really prefer this kind of condition and i do rather see those high fluctuations yet you could really make out some positions and take
risk on making trades and get those considerable profits if you do succeed.

Honestly long term traders do not care about high volatility because it doesn't change much, they care about their entry point and they care about whenever they exit, many long term people who got in VERY early into bitcoin got out, they do not care if it is higher now.

Imagine you got in with 10k dollars back when it was just 100 dollars, you bought 100 bitcoins, now you sell and you have 5 million dollars, I am not entirely sure if people would care their 10k becoming 5 or 6 or 7 million. Sure that's a big change but they are already quite happy so that extra one million may not change so much. Which means there are some people who do not care if it goes sideways or highly volatile, for us, it's the same.

[AakZaki]

Honestly long term traders do not care about high volatility because it doesn't change much, they care about their entry point and they care about whenever they exit, many long term people who got in VERY early into bitcoin got out, they do not care if it is higher now.

Imagine you got in with 10k dollars back when it was just 100 dollars, you bought 100 bitcoins, now you sell and you have 5 million dollars, I am not entirely sure if people would care their 10k becoming 5 or 6 or 7 million. Sure that's a big change but they are already quite happy so that extra one million may not change so much. Which means there are some people who do not care if it goes sideways or highly volatile, for us, it's the same.

there are only a few people who are able to hold it and not sell it until now. But most people have targets below ATH. nowadays bitcoin is capable of achieving incredible and unpredictable ATH. high volatility will not affect long-term traders, because they enter at the lowest price and then sell according to their long-term target. ATH bitcoin will still happen again, Holders keep holding until now.

[TheGreatPython]

Reason why as we know when market goes one direction we earn profit with leverage one way but if sideways then its hard to use futures trading

Why you are too much concerned about leverage? Because, you could make profit from crypto trading even without availing leverage. I agree in sideways market, you cannot make big profits still bitcoin market is giving enough movement to make profits for all day traders. Overall in my opinion, leverage here is simply out of context.

For start let those regulaters sec and those kind of guys who eating donuts do it something useful for traders.

Like bullish trend and bearish trend sideways trend also part of every market hence no one could do anything about. You cannot expect market to move wildly at either direction; market also must need some rest .

[Hamphser]

End of year lull.
No worries!

No worries indeed but if you do make yourself to be that hopeful then you would really get stressed out.

As a trader then expect the unexpected and this had been always the typical thing that you would experience in the market and based up on experience
then i do agree that moving sideways is the most hardest situation on where you do decide whether you do buy or sell specially if you arent seeing
those sentiments around then you would really be finding it to be a big problem.

[RealMalatesta]

i do agree that moving sideways is the most hardest situation on where you do decide whether you do buy or sell specially if you arent seeing those sentiments around then you would really be finding it to be a big problem.

I do not call that sideways market is the hardest part of bitcoin market for both traders and investors. Because, traders might love the range bound markets to buy and sell at same kind of levels to profits on daily basis whereas for investors who have been holding bitcoin for years definitely might have seen similar situations where bitcoin usually launch its bullish rally after a sideways market.

when market goes one direction we earn profit with leverage one way but if sideways then its hard to use futures trading

This is the reason always spot trading must be a good one for any trader. I have seen many cons of leveraged market and this time that is not a good to go with even for sideways market as well.

[wxa7115]

Actually profit can be made each and every time just it matter that what is the recent price of the coin. Perhaps you have purchase your coin at smaller worth but when few days later you see it the worth will be double therefore it is really fantastic for you. So it does not matter that price is sideways. Some people just focus on crypto signals but i think that not all of these can operate well.

Many traders are still making money even if its on the sideways though of course many are also stop from doing since they prefer a much more active market and that’s fine as long as you know what you are doing you can be good. In trading, we have to timing the market no matter what the situation is, so don’t just panic seeing the sideways, get used to it and trade accordingly.

While I am not in favor of using leverage as I think people take too much risk when they do so, a ranging market that does not seem to be going anywhere seems like the perfect moment to use it.

After all the movements of a ranging market are limited and this puts a ceiling to the profits you can get as well, however if you use some leverage this can be more than enough to allow you to generate some profits during those conditions, which is not bad if we consider that many traders can only generate profits when the market is showing a strong trend.

[Quidat]

Actually profit can be made each and every time just it matter that what is the recent price of the coin. Perhaps you have purchase your coin at smaller worth but when few days later you see it the worth will be double therefore it is really fantastic for you. So it does not matter that price is sideways. Some people just focus on crypto signals but i think that not all of these can operate well.

Many traders are still making money even if its on the sideways though of course many are also stop from doing since they prefer a much more active market and that’s fine as long as you know what you are doing you can be good. In trading, we have to timing the market no matter what the situation is, so don’t just panic seeing the sideways, get used to it and trade accordingly.

While I am not in favor of using leverage as I think people take too much risk when they do so, a ranging market that does not seem to be going anywhere seems like the perfect moment to use it.

After all the movements of a ranging market are limited and this puts a ceiling to the profits you can get as well, however if you use some leverage this can be more than enough to allow you to generate some profits during those conditions, which is not bad if we consider that many traders can only generate profits when the market is showing a strong trend.

When it comes on touching leverage on ranging or sideway movements in the market then i do find out on very risk move to make but there are some people who do see it as a perfect opportunity to get
but honestly this is the hardest part even you do know in indicators or technicals on where it could possibly go but still wont be an assurance and if you do compared out on
on a trending kind of situation then you could make out some confidence on making out such move but well this is really varying on someones risk taking thing
plus having good grasps and experience towards leverage.