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November 21, 2021, 03:23:33 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
Its because that's where their loved ones are. In our family, we take care of each other and dont leave anyone behind. Why go to other places when you can have a decent job and income in your hometown? Lets say there's an offer of additional 100$ monthly but you can't be with your loved ones once in a while, then its a no for me. However, thanks to cryptocurrency market I am starting to turn the tables as I could invest easily in it unlike any before. Lots of opportunities are out there that you can access without leaving your home.
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November 21, 2021, 04:28:14 PM
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Whether it's true or not, what I know is that the customs of people in each area are often associated with hereditary things that the area I live in is a community that is difficult to be away from their families. Although by far they are the strongest, only 1 to 2 years. Apart from all that, the strong customs made us look for livelihoods from the nearest environment that can still be accessed manually. So I beg you to understand.
Sometimes considering the modern era, changing this mindset or habit has been in my mind for a long time, trying to migrate to areas that have the potential to earn above-average salaries. But this attachment seems to be difficult to let go.

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November 21, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
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It's absolutely correct that home is where our heart is. However, not getting out of my comfort zone would make me feel complacent and always dependent on my parents. I was independent for most of 2019 where I lived in the country's capital region away from my home city (a 1+ hour plane ride) and I rented myself a condo unit. I did survived to prove that I can live on my own and even traveled few times abroad. But since the pandemic began, I came back home because of the extreme restrictions in the capital region and until now I didn't come back despite the cases are going down and restrictions are slowly loosened.

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November 21, 2021, 04:53:35 PM
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Well for me I was born in India but for better education and safer environment I moved to Ukraine. The education was cheaper and it's safer for women as well. Therefore for me the motivation was : Education

Other than that my boyfriend lived in Indonesia for 13 years before he moved with his mother in the UK for better healthcare, education and overall quality of life.

My brother ( cousin ) was a doctor in India but decided to have a nice house and family in Australia since the job opportunities were better and the people were more valued professionally.

Therefore I do think that people do move but it's always dependent on their motivation plus opportunities as well, it's not as easy to pin point.

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November 21, 2021, 05:43:27 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
What happens is that at least when it comes to bitcoin, in order for the average person to adopt it they will have to accept the fiat system they have been using for so long and that was given to them as the only option was in fact a system that was cheating on them, it may seem that such a realization may make it easier for anyone to drop something and then just move on to the better option, but in fact it makes it harder because the first reaction people tend to have is to deny the truth in front of them and go through something similar to the five stages of grief.
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November 21, 2021, 06:24:29 PM
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In an economic standpoint, it's hard to constantly move because not everyone is as privileged or as rich as those in the 1%. Not to mention that we wouldn't be in this situation if some legislations placed on our states have been truly aimed at helping us people because, it's almost 70 years since the most devastating war, pretty sure that with a good civic leaders and state laws passed, countries could've easily recovered and even grow.
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November 21, 2021, 07:18:24 PM
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Emotional attachment is certainly one thing, however, I'd also like to add the psychological factor. I've seen it in myself too, I'm struggling to make decisions that will affect my life (such as workplace, moving out, finding new opportunities), anything that has to do with breaking a habit is tough, and location is definitely one of those.

On the other hand, we could also consider material assets, such as housing, which passes from the family to children. My family also owns a house which is going to be passed to me, having your own roof is certainly contributing to not moving out of your comfort zone.

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November 21, 2021, 07:29:32 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
I think the main reason why people do this is the comfort zone, obviously, your region or place where you were born provides you a greater level of the comfort zone because you are living around people you know since your birth, moreover moving out is a big expense too, unless you have a fixed income stream somewhere else you will find it difficult to survive anywhere else as you will have numerous expenses in this new place.

Talking about money also, people are generally rigid with their beliefs and it's really very difficult to change anyone's belief as people are really averted to change this is the reason why this happens.
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November 21, 2021, 07:49:19 PM
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I think each people will have their reason, like me who have reason which not Op mention, i can't leave my mother because only her who i have in this world. Although maybe i can't make new experience or maybe missed an opportunity which i can get in other tow, but i have this responsibility to be on my mother side, and for income i already enough from main salary and doing something online.

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November 21, 2021, 09:13:42 PM
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A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking.
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Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

I personally dont think that both of these statements are relevant to each another but I think people 'move' their money though. Back then people only hold cash and penny, then everyone started to flock to precious metals such as gold / silver. Nowadays people tend to 'save' their money in form of stocks so yeah people do 'move' their money

Its abit early to expect most people to put their money into bitcoin but we are getting there slowly so there is a good chance that saving in bitcoin might be a common things to do in another 10-20 years

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November 21, 2021, 09:48:48 PM
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where I live most of them buy stocks and deposit their money. this happens because of their ignorance of bitcoin and fear of value. to transfer it is very difficult because most of them are afraid of losing their money and do not understand the world of bitcoin cs, as well as many slanted news circulating in every media at this time make them even more hesitant to join

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November 21, 2021, 09:56:14 PM
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I think each people will have their reason, like me who have reason which not Op mention, i can't leave my mother because only her who i have in this world. Although maybe i can't make new experience or maybe missed an opportunity which i can get in other tow, but i have this responsibility to be on my mother side, and for income i already enough from main salary and doing something online.
We do really have our own reasons and to think that not all people would really be having that capability even if they wanted to leave out for good because we know that it would really that hard when it comes to finances and other factors needed for you to find out some opportunity on outside of your country and lots of people been hoping for this thing to happen but well we know that
reality doesnt always permit out on what we do have in mind thats why we do really end up on getting stuck on what we do have currently on.

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November 22, 2021, 01:59:20 AM
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I think that is because a comfortable zone that they feel since they are young and they feel that they like to stay in their environment without thinking that if they try to search for another opportunity, they can live better than in their old place. The comfortable zone really takes a big part in their lives so that is why they do not want to move to a new place, new environment because they need to adapt to the current situations that can make them feel comfortable.

Maybe that is why people do not want to try something new (e.g. bitcoin) and still prefer traditional (e.g. fiat). They can not see that if they can use bitcoin, they will have the opportunity to have a new source of income that can give them a way to make money.
I am not too young, but I am not old neither and I can tell you that I am investing for the long term not because I need money now but because I want to be comfortable when I retire, and that's what people do when they do not worry about today. I am earning enough to survive right now, and I have been thought that when you are young or at least working (ages between 20 and 50) you should be working hard so that you would live a good life when you retire.

It would be awesome if we could live a great life when we are young AND old, but the difference is that when you are old then you may not be able to survive by working. So, you need to build a life for yourself that you won't have to work at all and still manage to survive when you are old. That only happens if you invest early and do not eat the fruits of your profits when you are young. Just get rich as much as possible until you can't work anymore due to old age and then reap the benefits of your decades long work.
Retired young is also my dream to enjoy the rest of my life without about how to fill my daily needs because I can buy anything to fill it. Many young people work hard because they want to retire young and it seems the mindset that young people change and do not follow the older adults who already have financial freedom. It will be better if they can retire young with financial freedom so they only need to be close to their family and the money will flow to them directly.

If the other young people want to search for other opportunities to have better lives, they can achieve their goals, which can help them retire young with financial freedom. Financial freedom could be the final dream for many people to enjoy their life with their beloved families.

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November 22, 2021, 02:22:45 AM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

I think it is economic pressure/lack of opportunities that motivates us to leave our motherland and work as an Expatriate in a foreign country where you face issues of language/culture and many mores, otherwise nobody likes to leave his/her loved one for the sake of money. I have been living in an oil rich Gulf country for long time and can feel pain of home sickness.









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November 22, 2021, 03:04:59 AM
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I think this is very well explained with emotional attachment with the place where we take birth. There is thing called as safe-box or may be comfort zone! Everyone right from the birth starts to know the surroundings, neighbours, the area, even the shop at corner and all these things start to get emotionally attached with everyone.
Thats true and I can relate to this because its also my choice not to go far away from where I used to live. I want to be near to my family, relatives, friends and I feel safe knowing that I am not alone. The pay rates for my job is not as high compared to working on other places but I think having a contentment is the reason why im not looking for more.

On the other side, its similar to people who chose not to engage themselves in crypto because fiat is their trusted currency. But this makes me a bit different since I chose to take risk because of the convenience and the benefits of using crypto.

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Everyone has their own choices that can change their lives or not because in reality going to another zone is not necessarily as expected because we go to another zone or another country we have to be really mentally prepared, and must be ready to accept the consequences.
if what is expected is not appropriate, unless someone recommends it or there are friends there.


I personally prefer to live in a safe and comfortable zone, i.e. in my own area, I am always with my family and know the situation and what I don't understand is whether there is no job or income to make money in that zone.
If there is a job or something to earn, why move to another zone? The important thing is that we can be creative and develop our ability to make money and in addition to working in the nearest company, we can also do side jobs according to our expertise. which in my opinion is much better and the results we can immediately enjoy with our beloved family.

no need to go to another zone just want to receive bitcoin salary, because we can still buy it or get it for free as per our skill and we get both and also family, relatives, friends and so on and it's beautiful.

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November 22, 2021, 07:48:43 AM
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I believe there are two main reasons for people tending not to move: absence of language barrier and knowledge of how things are done in their country. The first reason is very important, as it allows you to communicate without additional effort, express your thoughts more clearly and come to understanding faster. In any field of activity, there is an urgent need to be correctly understood. The second reason is explained by the fact that even if the economic, social, cultural situation in the country in which you live leaves much to be desired, you know these features, which means that you can use them to your advantage. In order to understand the new conditions, it takes years, during which in your usual environment you could already achieve something. Therefore, people prefer to work with what is, and what they know, rather than looking for something possible and incomprehensible, albeit potentially better.

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they do not to move because they are comfortable and they do not initiate freedom because they are already free ! free has a broad meaning one of which is free to speak in they zone ! there are many reasons but one of them is that they do not move because they think of other risks that are more dangerous for them or their families ! but not all who tend not to move on there must be some people who choose to move but it is not published ants can separate themselves from the group Humans will choose a more decent economy and life for the future full of risks the other point of view is a matter of knowledge

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November 22, 2021, 05:46:21 PM
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If we are to add some spice to the topic of the thread, humans hardly move. Basing our thoughts on the fact that, we change location for a livelihood somewhere might suggest some form of movement but then, if we tend to look at where we call home and where we rest even after we are gone (dead), you would understand that, we don't move. Like the research on names, it's always closer to base, to origin and so do every individual or most at the very least.

So long as, your movement isn't permanent, you still have a course to look towards your place of origin for a home, how then can you completely claim to have moved. You never move, when a part of you is staying!
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November 22, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
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Moving is not an easy thing to do expecially when you are comfortable in your present location, I think this is part of human nature, once they are not feel pressured they don't bother to change that position, same applies to making a decision to invest in a completely new space, I have friends who still haven't summoned the courage to invest in crypto, they are more comfortable with their fiat and don't want to take unnecessary risk, it is a common practice.

It is what you call being in their comfort zones.
Not all people are indeed willing to take their risks.
As long as they are contented with where they are, they won't be moving to some other place.
But I guess this may not be true to millennials or younger generation as they seek new opportunities to other place.
However, we can't deny the fact that when it comes to investment, people tend to secure themselves with what is already known to them.
So this is understandable if they won't touch crypto, especially those that are not risk takers.
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