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November 21, 2021, 01:27:00 AM
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A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

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November 21, 2021, 05:05:43 AM
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I think this is very well explained with emotional attachment with the place where we take birth. There is thing called as safe-box or may be comfort zone! Everyone right from the birth starts to know the surroundings, neighbours, the area, even the shop at corner and all these things start to get emotionally attached with everyone.

Many of us even go here and there for educational purposes, take our degrees and most of the time wanna Go-Home and get settled. May be that’s kinda emotion which attracts everyone back to their hometown.

Our most of the things like house, area, colonisation makes more safer than the new area and new peeps. Most of the things are already settled so why you start from the scratch. That’s what most of them think.

Obviously there could be many more theories out their but this could be one of the reason for concentrated colonisation.
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November 21, 2021, 05:38:35 AM
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I think this is very well explained with emotional attachment with the place where we take birth. There is thing called as safe-box or may be comfort zone! Everyone right from the birth starts to know the surroundings, neighbours, the area, even the shop at corner and all these things start to get emotionally attached with everyone.

Many of us even go here and there for educational purposes, take our degrees and most of the time wanna Go-Home and get settled. May be that’s kinda emotion which attracts everyone back to their hometown.

Our most of the things like house, area, colonisation makes more safer than the new area and new peeps. Most of the things are already settled so why you start from the scratch. That’s what most of them think.

Obviously there could be many more theories out their but this could be one of the reason for concentrated colonisation.

In short, people find a HOME. Home is where the heart is. Family members stay close together and are not open to moving away from thier family because we look after each other. Latins and Asians I believe have this culture. A familiar place where everybody knows everyone is what we are used to.

Starting from scratch are from new families traveling to find greener pastures but eventually, if they don't come back, they import someone from their hometown with them. It could be a sister, grandparents or so.



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November 21, 2021, 06:32:47 AM
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I don't think this is very correct because people have been moving from beginning of the world existence. From the bible story, the part of the Israelites moved to Egypt either for safety or what we call greener pastures until a time that they moved back to Israel.

Also the slave trade stories were movement for expansion,  expidition and other purposes that were either positive or negative outcome but led to human integration and culture studies. Still today humans are moving far from country home to other places either for education, greener pastures, sporting activities. Yes for soccer we know people move to other countries, get signed up to continent far from theirs, Messi for example is from Argentina and has been in Spain with Barcelona for years and now in France with PSG. Christiano Ronaldo too
Dr Okonjo-Iweala is from Nigeria but has lived outside Nigeria for most of her life and leading the World Trade Organisation as director, moreso raising her children outside Nigeria and so many others just to mention few but known cases and as people move, they inter marry and naturalize there. So people move very well IMO.


Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

Regarding monetary movement, people are also leaving the total commitment to traditional financial system and traditional economy. The investment in bitcoin is growing and can't be compared to 2017 at least. The economic has gone digital likewise the thinking and thought structure of the government and that is why because they can not beat them, they have joined the modern structure with CBDC

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November 21, 2021, 07:03:25 AM
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First of all, I have seen people travelling out of my country to settle in another country, although home will always be home but this doesn't change the fact that some left forever. What I noticed is that some other people want to experience another region but no money to give such opportunity but what I know is that people have been moving from one region to the other since the evolution of people that science researched to have started from Eastern/Southern part of Africa.

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
About this, ignorance can cause it. Some people do not know the value of bitcoin, all just hearing about how the price is fluctuating and never think of investing. Some people just think in other form of investment and not that they are wrong, but bitcoin had been the most successful asset in the past of one decade ago, so going for it would have been better. I still noticed that people always know that the value of money is not in fiat but in what you use it to do to bring more money, and in the process people are having assets to earn more money, or investing to earn more.

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November 21, 2021, 08:04:46 AM
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Emotional attachment and cultural and sociological differences are the things preventing people from doing any more mass migrations. Cultural differences are maybe the strongest factor in all of them, and one that can not be bypassed so easily because the problem lays on both sides. Cultural differences in a global age are getting more and more accentuated and therefore harder for others to adapt to them.

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November 21, 2021, 08:50:00 AM
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Well, I certainly am not one of them. I'd reckon 'wanting' to move is influenced by what you grew up in if there were opportunities or not for the path you chose. It's highly dependent since not all places have the opportunities for you, sometimes you have to move far just to get that lucky chance, unlike others who has it pretty much served to them in a platter.

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
Well isn't it because the mindset of innovating something is absent from them? Not that I'm saying that people aren't innovative, just that they tend to put that tendency of theirs towards stuff that they have passion about, so really, it's no wonder why most don't really bother in trying to appeal as to what medium their money is in. In the end, isn't it still money that they'd use? Not to mention that those innovative mindsets are also rare in itself imo, or at the very least, those that can be let out and be known to others anyway.  

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November 21, 2021, 09:18:33 AM
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I think this is very well explained with emotional attachment with the place where we take birth. There is thing called as safe-box or may be comfort zone! Everyone right from the birth starts to know the surroundings, neighbours, the area, even the shop at corner and all these things start to get emotionally attached with everyone.

Many of us even go here and there for educational purposes, take our degrees and most of the time wanna Go-Home and get settled. May be that’s kinda emotion which attracts everyone back to their hometown.

Our most of the things like house, area, colonisation makes more safer than the new area and new peeps. Most of the things are already settled so why you start from the scratch. That’s what most of them think.

Obviously there could be many more theories out their but this could be one of the reason for concentrated colonisation.

In short, people find a HOME. Home is where the heart is. Family members stay close together and are not open to moving away from thier family because we look after each other. Latins and Asians I believe have this culture. A familiar place where everybody knows everyone is what we are used to.

Starting from scratch are from new families traveling to find greener pastures but eventually, if they don't come back, they import someone from their hometown with them. It could be a sister, grandparents or so.

Home is where the heart is, that's absolutely correct.
Our culture is always family first, but in terms of finding a way to survive financially, my country men slowly adapt on a character trait that sacrifice his presence for his family and travel abroad to have a more sustainable income.
But still majority of us here doesn't like to move from a place where we were born.

One thing noticeable in our culture is that we tend to move to other country to find good income salary, but foreigners like Westerner and Chinese people come to our country to build a business. This is something most people in my country doesn't realize and have overlooked.

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November 21, 2021, 10:02:31 AM
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Some people are very much okay in their comfort zone, change is not something they welcome into their lives hence they are bound to be in the same position for a better part of their lives if not all of their lives. This very reason of not wanting to move or change has hindered many from being part of this space, they are comfortable with what they are familiar with, they don't want to try something new, it is possible some people may never try this as long as they live mostly out of ignorance.

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November 21, 2021, 10:06:11 AM
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Moving to another country or place is hard especially if you are in a country where you follow traditions like you have to be close with your family. Every nation has different tradition, but in our country, I would prefer to stay close to my family even if there's plenty of opportunity in other countries or in big cities which I could easily achieve my goal to be financially free.

What I do is I "stay", and figure out how to fulfill my dreams living in the place where I was born and call a home, and that start with knowing crypto which is one of the reasons that I believe I would be able to achieved my dream soon.

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November 21, 2021, 10:55:30 AM
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Most people don't move because they have a life in their own country (family, friends, language, familiarity of everything). But for many people moving is also very hard because it requires visas, and visas require lots of documents, good official reasons of moving, proof of financial stability etc. As for currencies, I think it's not the same. In my country, the USD is valued more than our local fiat, and people tend to save money in USD or EUR rather than our fiat, although they intend to live in our country rather than elsewhere. As for cryptos, they're newer and thus considered a more risky choice, but they are fairly popular in my country. Not as money, though, but more as a form of investment.

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November 21, 2021, 11:19:44 AM
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The majority of the people hate taking risk and leaving their comfort zone.
There's also a big problem with the cost of living in countries,that have higher standard of living.
The real estate prices and the rent are also very high in such countries.
I wouldn't leave my home and my country,unless I'm really desperate.Desperation is the biggest motivator for most people.My life kinda sucks(not financially,but socially),but I'm not that desperate,so I'm not ready for radical decisions,like moving to another town or another country.

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November 21, 2021, 12:14:09 PM
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There are categories of people, those who like to explore and adventure to new places to start afresh, while a category that don't share same resolve about moving around. However i feel a move is usually prompted by something say, search for better opportunities, education, crisis etc and people do not just move from places of their birth without good reason.

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November 21, 2021, 12:50:51 PM
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I am comfortable working in my country without having to go to another country just to make money and get a better job. I think it's okay when we feel comfortable working somewhere if the job also makes enough money to meet our needs, but it still will probably not last when the payoff isn't commensurate with my work.

Many people in my country decide to migrate to other countries to become workers because they cannot find decent work in their own country. Currency value might be something they are considering trying their luck in other countries and one of their destination so far is Malaysia. It doesn't really make sense to step out of our comfort zone when we are earning more than enough salary each month, but it will definitely try to move on to new experience when we are no longer making enough money.

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Basically, humans prefer to be in their comfort zone. so this is why they don't want to change. even so they don't hate change, because it's also a part of them. being born, growing up, and dying in the same place is perfectly normal. rather than trying something risky, they better accept what they already know. this also applies to everything. such as the general public views Bitcoin and crypto, or the system transition to digitalization, or changes in the environment to be more modern. all because humans worry too much about new things.

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November 21, 2021, 12:57:55 PM
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I think that is because a comfortable zone that they feel since they are young and they feel that they like to stay in their environment without thinking that if they try to search for another opportunity, they can live better than in their old place. The comfortable zone really takes a big part in their lives so that is why they do not want to move to a new place, new environment because they need to adapt to the current situations that can make them feel comfortable.

Maybe that is why people do not want to try something new (e.g. bitcoin) and still prefer traditional (e.g. fiat). They can not see that if they can use bitcoin, they will have the opportunity to have a new source of income that can give them a way to make money.

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November 21, 2021, 02:16:14 PM
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While some people really moved out to their home or country is not all about been comfortable at all, some people locomotion is base on acquiring new experience from another geographical zone or environment that can equally make he or her own people to live comfortably, so everything landed on opportunity because some people preferred unique things to be adopted.

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
see some people don't have the objectives of diversification of income, it's people that have such perception of diversification of income that will think of enrolling their money into bitcoin in order of multiplication or investment that will yield another. So that is the reason i emphasised on not be stagnant in a particular domain of region, because it's obvious that environment determine the mentalities of people dwelling there.


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Staying in your comfort zone will take you no where,this hinders oneself from realising his or her true potentials.
Like they do say,Aim for the stars you might hit the moon,and nothing is just too big/impossible to achieve,even the word say's "I'm Possible".

Take that risk,it's better to fail and try, rather than not to give a single shot at this.
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November 21, 2021, 02:41:42 PM
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I think this is very well explained with emotional attachment with the place where we take birth. There is thing called as safe-box or may be comfort zone! Everyone right from the birth starts to know the surroundings, neighbours, the area, even the shop at corner and all these things start to get emotionally attached with everyone.  

Well I agree, and it is felt by me personally who can't be far from where I live and where I was born. Traveling to other countries is still a fear because maybe we are not ready for different conditions, unfamiliar situations and are not used to the many climate changes in a region. Of course, the language barrier is also the reason for the lack of value in the language education being studied. So that until now I have not been able to leave the place where I was born. Emotional attachments that do not want to leave our parents, force us to look for jobs that we can achieve as much as we can.

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A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

With everything I could read in previous posts, I would add that there is one very important thing to consider when it comes to human migration, and that is the language barrier. If someone moves from Bulgaria to Germany or France they will have to learn their language if they want to find a serious job and live there, while on the other hand someone who lives in the US and wants to move from New York to San Francisco, or maybe the UK already has the advantage that he does not have to learn the language.

Yet I think a lot of people are moving in search of a better life in Europe, because the fact is that millions of people from Eastern Europe have moved to the West in the last 10 years, with the addition of 2+ million of those who have come from outside the EU.

The example of Romania perhaps best shows how large the emigration from the Eastern EU is.

The accession of Romania to the European Union in 2007 represented a turning point in Romanian emigration. While some restrictions on free mobility remained in place as late as 2014, Romanians increasingly have increasingly migrated to other European Union countries such as Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom. Emigration has become a major social and economic phenomenon for Romania, the population of which has fallen from 22.4 million in 2000 to 19.5 million in 2018, with outward migration responsible for more than 75% of this decline.

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