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November 22, 2021, 09:19:02 PM
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hi all, i have a wallet created like a paper wallet, by my birthday date and enough 64 character numbers to get the address and private key
i have a transaction that received bitcoin on july 30, 2015 or 2016 but i don't save the txid.
i selected 1 of 3 addresses with private key and saved that year.

it starts from previous birthday, last month and previous year.

1KVF6G8zFMGhjHuqMWV1QcGiv2fo8kgQ37
1Ax5GUH9no2zRzcWhWEFXbofdPKd11fYKE
17WcVeQzBqKzBEe7V8dse8RsbwCuKAqu4f

I checked again and there is no transaction history.

Can someone help me? I don't know what to do, because it's a great asset.

thank you very much.
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November 22, 2021, 09:24:20 PM
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None of the three addresses have been used for transaction before. Probably you are misplacing the addresses to another.

You can make use of blockchain.com/explorer or blockchair.com to check the coin amount the addresses hold on blockchain.

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November 22, 2021, 09:28:52 PM
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hi all, i have a wallet created like a paper wallet, by my birthday date and enough 64 character numbers to get the address and private key
Do you mean you created a brain wallet?

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i have a transaction that received bitcoin on july 30, 2015 or 2016 but i don't save the txid.
How do you "have" a transaction without txid?

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i selected 1 of 3 addresses with private key and saved that year.

it starts from previous birthday, last month and previous year.
I'm still unsure how Bitcoin has to do with your birthday.

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1KVF6G8zFMGhjHuqMWV1QcGiv2fo8kgQ37
1Ax5GUH9no2zRzcWhWEFXbofdPKd11fYKE
17WcVeQzBqKzBEe7V8dse8RsbwCuKAqu4f

I checked again and there is no transaction history.
Confirmed.

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Can someone help me? I don't know what to do, because it's a great asset.
If you made a brain wallet, it sounds like you made a mistake trying to restore it. What software did you use for this 6 years ago?

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November 22, 2021, 09:31:13 PM
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transactions on the blockchain in the past often show an approximation to protect the user's identity.
I think so so it can't be displayed on the blockchain.

i add 64 characters to blockchain.com
I just gave an example to make it easier to understand, partly to generate the private key
i received the txid from the sender but not save it
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November 22, 2021, 09:32:54 PM
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transactions on the blockchain in the past often show an approximation
Blockchains don't approximate. That's not how a blockchain works.

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November 22, 2021, 09:48:00 PM
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Confirmed : thank you
i just think that if it's not over the protocol there isn't any address and private key.

2019 had a private key that was unusable immediately after adding it to blockchain.com, but the next day I was able to use it.

hope someone will help me to check more deeply.
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November 23, 2021, 03:57:54 AM
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i received the txid from the sender but not save it
You don't need to save the transaction or the transaction ID. If you have your private key or address, importing it in any wallet that has the import option will show all the historical transactions associated with that key.

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November 23, 2021, 04:14:43 AM
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I'm just used to using blockchain.com.
btc.com i think it will not be possible to add the private key, i have the address and the private key saved, but i tried at blockchain.com and got the message not enough balance.

this is the error i got with how to generate private key in this way, its not the same as generating private key from bitcoincore and exporting private key like before, maybe this is my fault and not from sender, but I hope to be of interest and got help.

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November 23, 2021, 04:25:04 AM
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i have the address and the private key saved
You can always check your address on any online block explorer to see its history and current balance. Keep in mind that a bitcoin address starts with 1 or 3 or bc1. An example block explorer that you can use is https://blockchair.com/

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November 23, 2021, 05:03:17 AM
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i received the txid from the sender but not save it
Who is this "sender"?
Someone you don't know, your "friend" or a legitimate service where you can buy Bitcoins?

You must be sure that you've actually received Bitcoins because recovering something that's non-existent will just waste your time.
And as other have mentioned, those addresses didn't received any coins (neither Bitcoins or Altcoins).

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November 23, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
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i have the address and the private key saved
Without sharing the actual private key, can you explain what it looks like? Does it have 51 characters and start with a 5? Does it have 52 characters and start with a K or a L? Does it have 64 characters using 0-9 and A-F? Is it something else entirely?

When you tried to import it in to blockchain.com, did it show you the same address as the one you had saved? If it was a different address, which character did it start with?

Have you tried importing the private key in a proper wallet like Electrum (make sure you verify it first) and generating all three address types?
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yes it is match the address i created before, it was generated by 64 characters and now the private key and the receiving address are unchanged it is 52 chars and starts with the letter K. and I can also recreate the paper wallet to get 51 characters starting from 5.

with 64 characters it's not simply a birthday made up for easy guessing, it includes other numbers of my own

maybe i'll say who is sender, but i'm not sure everyone will believe it, maybe some of the founders of bitcoin will know, so I guarantee its legitimacy

my forum account name and registered by my ip address in the hope got help

Previously my location's couldn't use blockchain, that's my request.
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So you have a private key which recovers an address, which is the same address you generated from it in the past. That all seems fine.

However, in your first post you give three different addresses. You also think you received a transaction to another address. Where did these addresses come from? Were they somehow derived from the same private key too? Or did you create more than one private key? Alternatively, did they come from your blockchain.com wallet?
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You said it was paper wallet, please tell how you generated key:
1) You had a text input, like "10-10-1900 bla bla bla", 64 characters long; then you used tool to generate paper wallet, so it probably took your text, calculated hash etc.
2) You generated input "10101900123456789"..., 64 characters long, which was treated as hex encoded private key, so it could be converted to both un- and compressed addresses.

How did you generate 3 addresses from one private key?
Or did you use 3 different private keys?

Now, what do you have? Both compressed and uncompressed address from private key in WIF form (5... K...)?
You may use that tools: (preferably offline, you may also download page from git and launch from local disk, not web)
* https://iancoleman.io/bitcoin-key-compression/
Does your input (52 or 51 characters WIF) used there produces the same addresses?
Does your input converts into 64 characters which looks familiar?

If it is not a secret - are you native English speaker? If not, which language do you use? Do you use translator?
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 i have a wallet created like a paper wallet, by my birthday date and enough 64 character numbers to get the address and private key
Why you needed 64 characters to generate address?

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i selected 1 of 3 addresses with private key and saved that year.
it starts from previous birthday, last month and previous year.
What was the source of 3 addresses? What is the correlation between address and year?

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yes like i said it was created july 30 with a year of birth and subsequent numbers for 64 characters long and have get a address and private key WIF.
i'm providing 2 more addresses, it starts with the preceded day, preceded month and preceded yearjust to be sure.
I hesitated before using 1 of 3, to protect the private key.

i tried a character range on bitaddress and got 2 addresses, one of which is the same, that was just testing.

for example you add a 64 character word to blockchain.com and then try to re-create it at bitaddress.org

a private key that is anonymous and can be saved and remembered in many different ways that's how I chose that year

i also created many wallets via bitcoicore but i think i wont be able to save it for 10 years so i choose this way.

i know google translate is only about 80% accurate so i'm trying not to get it wrong.

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yes like i said it was created july 30 with a year of birth and subsequent numbers for 64 characters long and have get a address and private key WIF.
i'm providing 2 more addresses, it starts with the preceded day, preceded month and preceded yearjust to be sure.
I hesitated before using 1 of 3, to protect the private key.

i tried a character range on bitaddress and got 2 addresses, one of which is the same, that was just testing.

for example you add a 64 character word to blockchain.com and then try to re-create it at bitaddress.org

OK
So you have used site bitaddress.org in 2015, right?
Then you generated what
a) brain wallet using as a phrase 64-characters long text, which contained some date.
b) paper wallet using your passphrase to BIP38 Encrypt? (but then private key starts from 6)
And what is the problem now? Or you think you remember but you receive wrong results?

Maybe in the meantime something has changed on bitaddress (personally I do not think so). You may go to their git page with a history of releases:
https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org/releases
and try to download older version of page, open from your disk and then try to recreate address.

The fact that you changed phrase and gave us another address means nothing, it is a really long way from key to address.

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i think i will choose the first 2 addresses to receive, but I provide all 3 addresses to avoid any incorrect, and bitaddress.org is the same as blockchain.com, before,  i created the test with another 64 characters.

it's a great asset so I don't want to make a mistake or hopeless when unable to recover the wallet at that time.

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when i look at the first 2 addresses, bitaddress.org is the same as blockchain.com, before,  i created the test with another 64 characters


So finally what do you have?
3 phrases, 3 addresses and 3 private keys?

2 phrases gives address as expected and in both bitaddress and blockchain page produce the same WIF you have?

And you have also 1 address (which should be loaded), 1 WIF and 1 phrase, and now what? Phrase cannot be encoded into WIF you have? Or WIF does not create address you expect to have? Or everything works but address is empty?

And of course for these 3 WIFs or 3 phrases you generated 6 addresses, both compressed and uncompressed?
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I have 3 addresses and 3 WIFs, definitely all 3 64-character
before, i only try generating another 64 characters on bitaddress to compare with blockchain.com

after generating address and receiving the bitcoin transfer, and got txid from sender, about an hour later i deleted that private key from blockchain.com

i searched and did not save the txid, because it's been too many years
I know that today I will have to do this for got help.

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before, i only try generating another 64 characters to compare with blockchain.com
I have the  address and private key WIF now. I know that today I will have to do this for got help.

If you have only WIF, which does not produce address you have, try to convert it into compressed/uncompressed (https://iancoleman.io/bitcoin-key-compression/)
If none of addresses is the one expected Sad then probably you must try to restore phrase you used and then create again WIF from your phrase - maybe there was a mistake....
If there was REALLY a transfer and you seen coins transferred on YOUR address, which you GAVE to sender, it means that you had WIF for that address. So probably restoring phrase could be the only way.

I have 3 addresses and 3 WIFs, definitely all 3 64-character

WIF does not have 64 characters, you have phrase, right?

BTW I guess your address for sure starts with 1, as there was no SegWit on blockchain.com in July 2015.

Did you consider contacting blockchain.com for history of your account, history of actions or transactions on imported addresses?
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