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[Charles-Tim]

Understand that no one will share with you REALLY WORKING methods of earning money, they just want to make money on you, or it is corny to cheat, extorting money from you and hiding, without giving anything in return.

Especially in trading, there are signals and bots. Although, I have no experience about these two but from what I have learnt, people are getting scammed this way. I can never use my money to buy signals or bots, I will rather prefer to go for the basic learning., Learning about the technical analysis, checking news very well, following celebrities like Micheal Saylor on Twitter. One thing newbies do not know is that they do not know the basic aspect but then in danger of losing money in just few period after they start to trade.

Newbies really need to be patient and be very vigilant, joining forum like Bitcointalk and learning about how to avoid scam generally. It is all over everywhere because many people are scammers. Many ways to also lose money to people, but all easily avoidable if learning how to avoid crypto scam and scam generally.

[tranthidung]

Beginners, remember, no one will ever share with you real methods of earning

There are very few people who are readily to share such things but even if they are generously and share it, they don't share all things they know.

Additionally, a tip that can work for them might not work for you. It is key point and when a person tries to apply any tip, if he or she fails, it does not mean that tip is not correct. There are lots of thing can affect result and very few newbies can be disciplined on the market and strictly advice given signals or tutorials from experienced experts.

[Pmalek]

If what he is trying to trade (be it a super strategy for making money or a miracle bot that generates profit itself) worked, then why would he need you then? Ask yourself this question every time someone offers you to buy or invest your money in such a super product.

This is the most important thing in your whole opening post. It shows that the industry is full with uneducated (maybe also unintelligent) individuals who can't ask themselves why am I so special that this person needs me? Why is he looking to help me to make money and not his own family, friends, relatives, neighbors, and other people much closer to him rather than an unknown person over the internet? Or if he doesn't have any family and friends, why would he include more people in such a profitable business where you only have to click on one button and a magical software earns you tons of money?

Not falling for obvious scams does unfortunately require a clear head and a little bit of intelligence. 

[The Cryptovator]

Beginners, remember, no one will ever share with you real methods of earning. Of course, there may be exceptions to the rule, but these exceptions only confirm this very rule. If you meet on your way some assistant who wants to help you make money, then he wants to make money on you. Nobody is interested in your personal earnings.

This isn't easy to teach as well the real methods of earning cryptocurrency. Even you want to teach your nearest person is not easy at all. For example, you are earning from the forum by signature campaigns. Do you think it's easy to teach someone else? But you and me earning this way. Same for the trading as well. This isn't an easy task anyway. To be honest, earning from the cryptocurrency industry is harder than any other industry if you aren't enough experienced. Newbies in cryptocurrency mean they have to spend a lot of time to become mature enough to earn from there. It looks like easy earning cryptocurrency from far, but when you enter in deep then you may realize how hard is.

[Marykeller]

It wonders me a lot how does a newbie invest in something he has no single knowledge about. Just in the name of making money.
There's this friend of mine that has invested in so many projects but she doesn't know how crypto works. What and what do you need to consider first before investing in any altcoin. I was asking her how does she manage to know about altcoin to invest in. She told me that a friend of hers do tell her the coin to invest in nothing more.
From our discussion, I get to find out she has no single knowledge about crypto. She's in to make quick profits.
At the end of it all, I started lecturing her everything concerning crypto. Volatility nature of the market, things to consider before investing. Cmc ratings etc I spend hours lecturing her

[Blue MoonFlower]

Most newbies like me were really naive especially in Cryptoworld. I remember how my cousin was being fooled when she invested in Crypto without having deeper knowledge about it and just believe immediately with the tempting offer that the scammers had laid to her. Good thing she trusted me that much and talk to me about it among others because she was so shy to share this bad experiences she had, for being such a naive... and she also warned me  about the sites that took her money. This incident had helped me a lot to be more wiser and do a lot of research about crypto industry and learned more knowledge to gain clean profits and avoid the too good to be true offers. In some ways, I was thankful for my cousin's ignorance for it helped me grow more wiser and do good in Crypto Industry.

[isaac_clarke22]

Beginners, remember, no one will ever share with you real methods of earning.

Oh man, I recall so many bots in the internet especially in social media spamming their copy-pasted comment/post that wants you to DM them or contact them mostly through WhatsApp and when you do, they will claim that they can "2x" your money and you just need to send them your money, and they'll contact you back.
"2x"? Yeah, right.

I recommend beginners also to watch some scambaiters, but don't imitate them as it is quite risky, so that you'll see what could possibly happen when you contact those people. There are plenty of them in Youtube.

[jrrsparkles]

Can we have trading courses from the random youtubers and other social media influencers in that list?

Because I always felt in that way, nobody can teach you how to make money in cryptocurrency trading with 100% rate but these influencers advertise themselves as the master of trading and look to sell their useless trading techniques for 100 dollars but if they are really have any such techniques then its worth trillion dollar in my opinion.

[Etranger]

And the trend now is that newcomers do not choose a forum as a source of information, but telegram channels, discord channels, YouTube channels. Where the beginner is very vulnerable. And so these scammers continue to thrive as they feed this shit to newbies.

This is because such channels provide ready-made tips ready to use. You don't need to analyze anything yourself, you don't need to learn, you can just blindly follow someone`s advice. And for many people it turns out to be much easier, even if they are aware of a possible scam. Because in case of failure and loss of money, you can blame everyone around you, but not yourself. Erich Fromm wrote a lot about escaping from freedom, and in investing and making money on crypto his ideas are as relevant as anywhere else. People are looking for a headman who will tell them they`ll become rich and happy, and at the same time they don`t need to think about anything, since someone else has already thought for them.

[Pmalek]

This is because such channels provide ready-made tips ready to use. You don't need to analyze anything yourself, you don't need to learn, you can just blindly follow someone`s advice.

That's a very dangerous strategy. You are relying on the fact that someone else has done his homework but you have no idea if they did. These groups pretend to be made up of professional analysts. They brag around with powerful buzzwords that make the newbies think that those people know what they are talking about. In reality, they are paid groups sending fake tips or organizing pump & dump scams.

And for many people it turns out to be much easier, even if they are aware of a possible scam. Because in case of failure and loss of money, you can blame everyone around you, but not yourself.

True, but the fact that you lost your money remains. And once you find out that you were tricked, you will ask yourself how can I have been so naive?

People are looking for a headman who will tell them they`ll become rich and happy, and at the same time they don`t need to think about anything, since someone else has already thought for them.

People generally don't like to hear the truth because the truth hurts. It's honest and brutal. They like fairytales. They want to hear optimistic forecasts that their investments will return huge returns and they don't need to worry. It's just a matter of time before they can start counting their money. 

[Mpamaegbu]

It wonders me a lot how does a newbie invest in something he has no single knowledge about. Just in the name of making money.

Surprisingly, a lot of newbies are in that category. Money is the primary motivation for most, and then easy trust becomes their major undoing. I had someone whom I talked to about cryptocurrencies and it took almost a year before they showed interest. When they did, they wanted me to hold the funds for them but I refused. While it's the modus operandi for most people bringing the knowledge of cryptos to others here to ask them to send them cash to invest for them, it's against my investment principle. I enlighten and open accounts for people which they will solely control. That way, you're sure no one controls it other than they by themselves. Newbies should be weary of those asking them to give them the cash to invest for them. Even when the cash is actually invested, they don't release the profit accurately to the investors.

[Accardo]

The best knowledge is that which you garnered on your sweat. However, recalling that cryptocurrency is accessible through the internet. Where you can get a piece of free information for 50 bucks or more from another marketer that wants to make quick money like you. Almost all the selling methods are compiled from free information shared on forums.

These marketers know how to play with your fantasies with captions like earn 500 dollars in one week. You've heard it's possible to make much money or more in cryptocurrency but you don't care how. All matter is, you've found the super E-book that made the seller such amount weekly. Why is he selling the cow? He replies that he wants to give back to the community. Then you fall for the same scam as the others.

He just made $50 out of you (like OP said) with the same information which you could get free of charge if you had the patience to scout the web for every information you need.

Learn to ask questions, a lot of people here have the correct answers to any question related to cryptocurrency. Even before paying for any service. Ask a question here.

[KingsDen]

Always speaking out to guide the vulnerable. He that has an ear should hear. There is a Chinese adage that says "No one(hunter) shows his fellow man the track that Leopard uses".
Many are victims already (including me)in one way or the other, some are still deaf and will hear and understand only when they become victims. But keep preaching, you might be saving a soul somewhere.

[worle1bm]

Can we have trading courses from the random youtubers and other social media influencers in that list?

Because I always felt in that way, nobody can teach you how to make money in cryptocurrency trading with 100% rate but these influencers advertise themselves as the master of trading and look to sell their useless trading techniques for 100 dollars but if they are really have any such techniques then its worth trillion dollar in my opinion.

You are right on the point that they only advertise themselves as expert who are just making video without any advance knowledge of what they are saying and most of the time they are busy promoting their channel and some ads.You cannot trust them for trading and some serious one which are good to watch like coin bureau who give some real trading experience but you must follow your own way and style and keep continuing the same if you like it and are making profits.

[Daniel91]

Thank you Ratimov on this topic, but unfortunately, I don't think it will be read by those for whom it is intended.
I think there will always be people who want to become financially free in an easier way, without effort and hard work, right now.
They may have heard that some big money can be made in the crypto and will look for the first opportunity to get involved in a project that promises big money.
I have been on the Internet for a very long time, I have participated in many projects and I have seen such things many times.
If they fail the first time, they will try again and again, and it will become a kind of addiction for them, a desperate need to make some big money overnight and without much effort and work.
Such people will not listen to your reasonable advice and will not ask themselves these questions:
If that person is so successful why does he need other investors and their money?
Why he actually wants to help other, completely unknown people?
Who exactly is that person, what are his references, contact information etc?
Is everything legal?
And many other questions.

[Daniel91]

Thank you Ratimov on this topic, but unfortunately, I don't think it will be read by those for whom it is intended.

This topic does not pursue the goal of saving absolutely everyone and everyone. More than one thread on the forum cannot cope with such a task. But above in the comments, the correct idea was expressed, if there is something to warn about, then it is better to do it and at least someone will get this idea unambiguously.

And with the approach that you describe, you can safely stop writing about all sorts of scams, about privacy, about security and other warnings, because there will still be those who will fall into these traps. But it's better to do at least something than not to do nothing. If my instruction from this topic will help at least 1 user out of hundreds of millions, then it is not written in vain.

Ok I don't think we understood each other the best.
I actually wanted to say that there is one group of people who want to believe in promises of quick and easy earnings and who don’t believe  warnings from you and others.
I don't think they can be helped.
There is another group of people who are unsure and looking for information and answers and they can be helped.
I was primarily referring to the first group of people but your post and the warnings of other users will help other group, who still want to be informed first before making any decision.
I apologize if I wasn’t clear enough in the previous post.

[Etranger]

Thank you Ratimov on this topic, but unfortunately, I don't think it will be read by those for whom it is intended.

This topic does not pursue the goal of saving absolutely everyone and everyone. More than one thread on the forum cannot cope with such a task. But above in the comments, the correct idea was expressed, if there is something to warn about, then it is better to do it and at least someone will get this idea unambiguously.

And with the approach that you describe, you can safely stop writing about all sorts of scams, about privacy, about security and other warnings, because there will still be those who will fall into these traps. But it's better to do at least something than not to do nothing. If my instruction from this topic will help at least 1 user out of hundreds of millions, then it is not written in vain.

Ok I don't think we understood each other the best.
I actually wanted to say that there is one group of people who want to believe in promises of quick and easy earnings and who don’t believe  warnings from you and others.
I don't think they can be helped.
There is another group of people who are unsure and looking for information and answers and they can be helped.
I was primarily referring to the first group of people but your post and the warnings of other users will help other group, who still want to be informed first before making any decision.
I apologize if I wasn’t clear enough in the previous post.

Maybe, such preventions sometimes can help even the first group. After all, it is very easy to believe in the fairy tale that you can get all the money in the world at once, you just need to sign up for some course. But after the first failure it is no longer so easy to believe in such fables, and one may remember that he has already read or heard about scam projects somewhere, or become motivated to learn in such a painful way about such schemes. This is when the warnings reach their goal. It's just that for the second group that you are describing, they may be in advance, but for the first group, they will be a retrospective explanation of their mistake.

[yagamitaichi]

It wonders me a lot how does a newbie invest in something he has no single knowledge about. Just in the name of making money.
There's this friend of mine that has invested in so many projects but she doesn't know how crypto works. What and what do you need to consider first before investing in any altcoin. I was asking her how does she manage to know about altcoin to invest in. She told me that a friend of hers do tell her the coin to invest in nothing more.
From our discussion, I get to find out she has no single knowledge about crypto. She's in to make quick profits.
At the end of it all, I started lecturing her everything concerning crypto. Volatility nature of the market, things to consider before investing. Cmc ratings etc I spend hours lecturing her

I am one of the naive newbies. I do not deny that I need a lot of money. But for investment promotion with profitable promises, I have to be selective in responding to this. Because it's about money. If we are wrong in investing, our money will not come back. For that, I prefer coin mining or participating in the airdrop, even though the results are small but it will not hurt because it is free with no frills for a deposit. Not people who do not want to be rich and have a lot of money. But earning a lot of money with shortcuts is also impossible and not even possible. The best way is to be more patient and grateful for what you have. If you really want to invest, make sure you look for information related to the investment in detail and make sure you have considered the risks that will occur.

[Darker45]

What makes naïve newbies especially susceptible to all kinds of fraud is not the fact that they have yet to understand Bitcoin more deeply but rather the fact that 99% of them are too eager to make money. This eagerness will bring them toward fake trading tutorials, fake trading signals, fake investment opportunities, scam guidance, and so on and so forth. So I guess cases of newbies being victimized due to their naivete would significantly decrease if they tone down their eagerness to earn.