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March 30, 2014, 06:08:20 PM
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after careful examination of my PC, no malware or keyloggers were detected.

Can you share your address with us so we can see your transactions too.
It would be interesting for this case.
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March 30, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
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Keep on your computer antivirus ah, otherwise it would be attacked.
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March 30, 2014, 07:19:46 PM
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Keep on your computer antivirus ah, otherwise it would be attacked.

Well this is not all of the security steps you should do but indeed important too!

You need to stay aware from unknown  services - you can always use a virtual machine to open some new page to check it.

When you are downloading some *.rar *.zip or other packages you can send them to dropbox and open them over there to check them first before you put in on yours HDD.

There are many ways you can be hacked Smiley
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March 30, 2014, 09:23:07 PM
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Andreas has been tweeting about a scam blockchain account on twitter for several days now - twitter seem to be slow dealing with it... apparently the scam account has near 70k followers...
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March 30, 2014, 11:50:26 PM
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There are many ways hacking a wallet l8ke dumping a keylogger on your machine or a wallet stealer which they installed on scam websites a backdoor try Google them. Also can you share the transaction links with us ??
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March 30, 2014, 11:56:38 PM
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Andreas has been tweeting about a scam blockchain account on twitter for several days now - twitter seem to be slow dealing with it... apparently the scam account has near 70k followers...

Yow now that is a scary amount of followers if it is a scammer account

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March 31, 2014, 05:29:56 AM
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OP, was it the fake blockchain site that got you?

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March 31, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
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I just had my blockchain.info wallet hacked, and my coins stolen.

Blockchain does not know how it happened and is investigating.

Here's what is known so far:

1) My identifier, pneumonic and password were all stored offline and separately.
2) My password was alphanumeric
3) They were never shared with anyone - EVER
4) I did not have my wallet setup so backups were sent to me by email
5) The wallet did not have an email address associated with it
6) Somehow, a hacker was able to gain access to my wallet and move my coins out - twice over 3 days (i did not realize what was happening and moved more coins into the wallet, which were moved out during a 2nd incursion)

I can see where the coins were sent to.

I know my tracing options are limited but I would like to try anyway.

How much can I learn from the address the coins were sent to?
Can I learn which company owns the wallet they were sent to? Blockchain? Bitstamp? Bitfog?



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March 31, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
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OP, was it the fake blockchain site that got you?

The user has been AFK since yesterday so I guess we will need to wait for him to log in and confirm or deny that question

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April 04, 2014, 08:09:06 AM
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OP, was it the fake blockchain site that got you?

No

And when I asked the blockchain support person to escalate this to security, he stopped communicating with me.

I was not a victim of phishing, I did not click on a fake blockchain link and there is/was no keylogger on my machine.

I believe a brute force attack occurred and blockchain is refusing to acknowledge it.

Can anybody help me track the movement of my stolen coins?

I know the wallet where they were sent to, and the other transactions that went to there too.

With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Thank you
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April 04, 2014, 08:25:20 AM
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No

And when I asked the blockchain support person to escalate this to security, he stopped communicating with me.

I was not a victim of phishing, I did not click on a fake blockchain link and there is/was no keylogger on my machine.

I believe a brute force attack occurred and blockchain is refusing to acknowledge it.

Can anybody help me track the movement of my stolen coins?

I know the wallet where they were sent to, and the other transactions that went to there too.

With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Thank you

A brute-force attack is rather unlikely if you had a password of reasonable entropy, length and complexity. It's far more likely you were using either a compromised system or you had your details phished. Tracking the coins is pointless, it won't be able to help you get them back. On a side note, your coins were probably sent to an address not a whole wallet and it's probable that no 'company' owns it, much rather someone running the standard client/Electrum/Multibit. Finally, even if it was a Blockchain wallet they would be unable to recover your coins because they do not have the private key. All in all, while I'm sorry for your loss, IMO you need to do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin in general (especially if you're storing large amount of coins - look into a cold storage system) as you don't seem to understand how the system works and the best methods to protect your coins.
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April 04, 2014, 08:59:23 AM
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April 04, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
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No

And when I asked the blockchain support person to escalate this to security, he stopped communicating with me.

I was not a victim of phishing, I did not click on a fake blockchain link and there is/was no keylogger on my machine.

I believe a brute force attack occurred and blockchain is refusing to acknowledge it.

Can anybody help me track the movement of my stolen coins?

I know the wallet where they were sent to, and the other transactions that went to there too.

With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Thank you

A brute-force attack is rather unlikely if you had a password of reasonable entropy, length and complexity. It's far more likely you were using either a compromised system or you had your details phished. Tracking the coins is pointless, it won't be able to help you get them back. On a side note, your coins were probably sent to an address not a whole wallet and it's probable that no 'company' owns it, much rather someone running the standard client/Electrum/Multibit. Finally, even if it was a Blockchain wallet they would be unable to recover your coins because they do not have the private key. All in all, while I'm sorry for your loss, IMO you need to do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin in general (especially if you're storing large amount of coins - look into a cold storage system) as you don't seem to understand how the system works and the best methods to protect your coins.

you clearly are speaking without reading the entire thread. large amount of coins??? where did you get that idea? and further still, based on your false assumptions, what substantial thoughts do you have to offer? do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin...? are you for real?
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April 04, 2014, 09:09:48 AM
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you clearly are speaking without reading the entire thread. large amount of coins??? where did you get that idea? and further still, based on your false assumptions, what substantial thoughts do you have to offer? do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin...? are you for real?

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I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Last time I checked BTC22 was roughly worth about 10K USD, which I personally would consider a lot. Unless your telling me that your somehow some magical rich kid with no monetary concerns.

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With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

This statement is simply a clear example of your gross misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works. I've already explained 'wallet numbers' and your weird notion that companies hold all of the wallets. Of course I'm for 'real', I'm trying to educate you on how to stop this kind of crap from happening in the future.
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you clearly are speaking without reading the entire thread. large amount of coins??? where did you get that idea? and further still, based on your false assumptions, what substantial thoughts do you have to offer? do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin...? are you for real?

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I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Last time I checked BTC22 was roughly worth about 10K USD, which I personally would consider a lot. Unless your telling me that your somehow some magical rich kid with no monetary concerns.

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With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

This statement is simply a clear example of your gross misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works. I've already explained 'wallet numbers' and your weird notion that companies hold all of the wallets. Of course I'm for 'real', I'm trying to educate you on how to stop this kind of crap from happening in the future.

you are a troll who imagines yourself knowledgeable about things you only observe but do not participate in. you have zero authority because you are a spectator, not a player.

you are like the fan in the stands who imagines himself an expert about the sport he is watching....

please go away....if 22 coins is your idea of "big money" you truly have no place in any discussion where real people are discussing real issues to do with bitcoins...go back to the porch where the puppies are playing and leave these matters to the big dogs.
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April 04, 2014, 09:44:55 AM
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Haha, well I'm not the one who still hasn't got a clue how he got hacked and lost his money. Seeing as you obviously don't need any help I don't see why you don't just close this thread and continue as you will and lose your money. No skin off my nose.
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April 04, 2014, 10:47:52 AM
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Nothing is safe, especially online wallets, but even offline wallets can be hacked with malware  Sad
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Nothing is safe, especially online wallets, but even offline wallets can be hacked with malware  Sad

Stop spreading bitcoin fud, 99.9% are safe with proper precautions, must of been blockchains side
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April 04, 2014, 04:36:05 PM
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you clearly are speaking without reading the entire thread. large amount of coins??? where did you get that idea? and further still, based on your false assumptions, what substantial thoughts do you have to offer? do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin...? are you for real?

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I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Last time I checked BTC22 was roughly worth about 10K USD, which I personally would consider a lot. Unless your telling me that your somehow some magical rich kid with no monetary concerns.

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With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

This statement is simply a clear example of your gross misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works. I've already explained 'wallet numbers' and your weird notion that companies hold all of the wallets. Of course I'm for 'real', I'm trying to educate you on how to stop this kind of crap from happening in the future.

you are a troll who imagines yourself knowledgeable about things you only observe but do not participate in. you have zero authority because you are a spectator, not a player.

you are like the fan in the stands who imagines himself an expert about the sport he is watching....

please go away....if 22 coins is your idea of "big money" you truly have no place in any discussion where real people are discussing real issues to do with bitcoins...go back to the porch where the puppies are playing and leave these matters to the big dogs.

Actually, you are the one that is starting to sound like a troll.  The poster is trying to help you. You asked for our help, right?  They are absolutely correct about wallet numbers, etc.  

We're not the ones getting our coins stolen as we have mastered basic security.  Listen to learn, and learn to listen.

Those 22 coins are gone. That ship has sailed. Focus your efforts and energy on preventing further theft.

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April 04, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
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you clearly are speaking without reading the entire thread. large amount of coins??? where did you get that idea? and further still, based on your false assumptions, what substantial thoughts do you have to offer? do some more reading about wallets and Bitcoin...? are you for real?

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I will give 25% of the 22 coins to whomever can help me track them down.

Last time I checked BTC22 was roughly worth about 10K USD, which I personally would consider a lot. Unless your telling me that your somehow some magical rich kid with no monetary concerns.

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With a wallet number, can I learn which company holds that wallet? Bitstamp - Blockchain - etc?

This statement is simply a clear example of your gross misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works. I've already explained 'wallet numbers' and your weird notion that companies hold all of the wallets. Of course I'm for 'real', I'm trying to educate you on how to stop this kind of crap from happening in the future.

you are a troll who imagines yourself knowledgeable about things you only observe but do not participate in. you have zero authority because you are a spectator, not a player.

you are like the fan in the stands who imagines himself an expert about the sport he is watching....

please go away....if 22 coins is your idea of "big money" you truly have no place in any discussion where real people are discussing real issues to do with bitcoins...go back to the porch where the puppies are playing and leave these matters to the big dogs.

Actually, you are the one that is starting to sound like a troll.  The poster is trying to help you. You asked for our help, right?  They are absolutely correct about wallet numbers, etc.  

We're not the ones getting our coins stolen as we have mastered basic security.  Listen to learn, and learn to listen.

Those 22 coins are gone. That ship has sailed. Focus your efforts and energy on preventing further theft.

true even if you tracked them, there's not much you can do about it unless you are some kind of mafia lord and have a lot of influence at the thief's area. As the officials are still not sure how to deal with these sort of thefts yet (the IRS rule as property is not helping either) and those coin is not moving anywhere unless you can get a hold of their private keys where your only method to acquire is to torture them with your mafia.

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