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[Haunebu]

I don't understand why a separate ANN thread was created despite the fact that you presented your site through another thread recently. Care to clarify op?

Please see the terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

Makes complete sense since bet verification depends on multiple factors. Have all his bets been verified or not? You can support your answers by providing proof in the form of screenshots, videos etc.

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[4444sport.com]

We did not refuse any winnings. We only wrote that a user placed 300 bets, and that we had to verify these bets.

That's great to hear. I hope the situation will be resolved soon.

I believe it's always best to communicate openly with the community and respond to all inquiries and comments. This is a forum after all.

We have already told this to the specified user multiple times, but seems that he has no patience.

[stadus]

We did not refuse any winnings. We only wrote that a user placed 300 bets, and that we had to verify these bets.

That's great to hear. I hope the situation will be resolved soon.

I believe it's always best to communicate openly with the community and respond to all inquiries and comments. This is a forum after all.

We have already told this to the specified user multiple times, but seems that he has no patience.

Better get used to it, gamblers usually do not have high patience, they just want to withdraw their money instantly. If you have a good system, then grading bets and processing withdrawals would be instant unless you are making an investigation which in that case you have to make the user aware of it.

Anyway, good luck, it looks like the issue is not that big, but give at least a timeline and maybe solve that ASAP before you run a signature campaign.

Also, trust the experts in running the campaign to ensure success of your campaign. 

[brassnuts]

We have already told this to the specified user multiple times, but seems that he has no patience.

Patience is not the issue here. The issue is that you have been telling me for a week that you are verifying my bets, all the while acting as if this is something that commonly happens in the industry. It is not, particularly on big league markets where I placed all of my bets.

It's important that you get this issue up to speed, and stop relentlessly deleting comments from your threads, and also stop making brand new threads when the allegations start stacking up. It is clear for everyone who has a cell in their brain that things are not adding up here.

Also, if you are taking a week, so far anyway, to verify some bets, perhaps your company could make the decision to send me an email of some kind to let me know about this? Surely that would be helpful.

Please try not to delete my future posts, as I am not trolling you. I am simply looking for open and constructive communication.

[decodx]

We have already told this to the specified user multiple times, but seems that he has no patience.

I see. I didn't really follow your old thread and I wasn't familiar with the specific case, but from what I saw here, it seemed like you were repeatedly deleting legitimate questions from your users and other forum members. Which wasn't cool.

However, back to the topic, is there any way of speeding up the process of verifying his bets? Or at least giving him some estimated resolution time?

[Fredomago]

Thanks for the comments. We had to remove some comments since the content was inappropriate.

How do you define inappropriate comments? When I look at the post archives, I see that some legitimate questions were asked here, such as from the players to whom you refused to pay their winnings. As Bitinity said, you have to change your behavior on this forum if you don't want a negative trust rating that can't be censored. Is that what you want?

We did not refuse any winnings. We only wrote that a user placed 300 bets, and that we had to verify these bets.

Please see the terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

Fair enough answer , 72 hours requirements to wait is not that bad since it is written in your TOS that players must read and understand first before depositing and playing .

Maybe he isn't aware of that rule that's why he keeps bumping the thread about his claims.

anyway Please update the thread ASAP once the process is over and what is the result .

[MonsterV]

Thanks for the comments. We had to remove some comments since the content was inappropriate.

How do you define inappropriate comments? When I look at the post archives, I see that some legitimate questions were asked here, such as from the players to whom you refused to pay their winnings. As Bitinity said, you have to change your behavior on this forum if you don't want a negative trust rating that can't be censored. Is that what you want?

We did not refuse any winnings. We only wrote that a user placed 300 bets, and that we had to verify these bets.

Please see the terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

Fair enough answer , 72 hours requirements to wait is not that bad since it is written in your TOS that players must read and understand first before depositing and playing .

Maybe he isn't aware of that rule that's why he keeps bumping the thread about his claims.

anyway Please update the thread ASAP once the process is over and what is the result .

72 hours looks a reasonable timeframe. Personally, I never have placed 300 bets in a few days.
I can imagine that it is some time to check everything.

[Jawhead999]

1 week is 168 hours not 72 hours.

[4444sport.com]

1 week is 168 hours not 72 hours.

I see you have given us a negative feedback already. There are sites who do not pay out in 3 weeks, and that is still accepted by the community.
And not paid in 7 days because we are checking bets, and you give us a negative trust.

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[Stalker22]

I see you have given us a negative feedback already. There are sites who do not pay out in 3 weeks, and that is still accepted by the community.
And not paid in 7 days because we are checking bets, and you give us a negative trust.

I notice you deleted my previous comment. With all due respect, may I ask why?

In my opinion, I was neither trolling nor spamming, and I was as objective as possible. It is one thing to keep your topic free of spam, but quite another to restrict the freedom of forum members to express their opinions. Considering your best interests, I urge you to reconsider what you are doing here.

[4444sport.com]

I see you have given us a negative feedback already. There are sites who do not pay out in 3 weeks, and that is still accepted by the community.
And not paid in 7 days because we are checking bets, and you give us a negative trust.

I notice you deleted my previous comment. With all due respect, may I ask why?

In my opinion, I was neither trolling nor spamming, and I was as objective as possible. It is one thing to keep your topic free of spam, but quite another to restrict the freedom of forum members to express their opinions. Considering your best interests, I urge you to reconsider what you are doing here.

Off topic posts/trolling/spamming messages will be deleted here. That is why we have chosen the topic to be self moderated.

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[bislom]

i deposited 10 eur to test the site. the cashout option is only available for single bets ?

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i deposited 10 eur to test the site. the cashout option is only available for single bets ?

At the moment, the Cash out option is only available for Single bets.

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[NotATether]

1 week is 168 hours not 72 hours.

I see you have given us a negative feedback already. There are sites who do not pay out in 3 weeks, and that is still accepted by the community.
And not paid in 7 days because we are checking bets, and you give us a negative trust.

I'm assuming you have a small number of employees so between design/development and customer support + marketing, how do you even find time to manually verify entire bet histories of people? (I'm assuming you have them all on a list of some sort).

Perhaps you are using an automated software for that? It would be much more accurate than human reviews if all you're doing is preventing abuse of bets.

[brassnuts]

Any chance you guys at 4444 could provide a link to your Costa Rican license?

As far as I'm aware there is no such thing as an actual license. The Costa Rican government can give you permission to provide sports betting services from Costa Rica but there is no 'license' ever issued.

[4444sport.com]

Any chance you guys at 4444 could provide a link to your Costa Rican license?

As far as I'm aware there is no such thing as an actual license. The Costa Rican government can give you permission to provide sports betting services from Costa Rica but there is no 'license' ever issued.

We run our business 100% legal, as our company license is valid to run online gambling.