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Dear forumer, I have a story to tell you of how I tried to visit the most isolated island on the world and establish my own country there. And how I was kicked out after trying to settle 6 times.. I hope you find it interesting. When I was a child I always wanted to be a leader. First time I got an opportunity to command people during my school football tournament, eventially I got the weakest team, despite this we won. After the tournament somebody joked that it would be great if we can make our own country. Everyone was laughing except me. I thought it will be a great idea, and I managed to convince others. The next weekend we went to an uninhabited island in the middle of the river, planted our flag, put our camp and proclaimed independence from Russia and Norway ( the land was on the neutral zone although on the maps it showed Norway, while it was completely accessible from Russia). Anyway, there was no one who could law enforce us, so therefore we were safe. We managed to buy axes in Russia, cutted some trees on the island, the island is slightly bigger than Monaco, so few Huts were not an issue. Also we found some poor people in Russia who agreed to settle on our land, in exchange for giving them some land. We made a free lease with the guys for exchange of support for our country. Basically after that we were back to school, where one day I found literature so boring that I managed to write our constitution in 30 minutes. The next day we held a referendum and people voted for that one. The first summer holidays were approaching. In Russia they are very long, at about 3 months. Of course we spent that time on constructing our country from scratch. On the 10th of July with another referendum we finally clarified how we are going to operate. We decided that we will have provisional government and will held elections on the day of 8 of August, spoiler alert, will be considered our independence day. Eventually in a week we rolled 2 months economic plan, which included building houses, water pumps, some wierd kind of hydropower, growing our food, making our clothes, building a small wooden town, a hospital, a police station, a border control, a raft ferry that had a capacity to lift up to 30 tons, military, printing press and airport. All necessary steps for starting our own country. From 14 July up to 20 August I was working like never before, because on 20 of August we were supposed to have a presidential election, and I wanted to become a president of the Republic of Hyperborea. Yes we loved this name. Surprisingly we completed almost all except the airport. It consumed about a quarter of the island's forest, but we were cutting from inside, therefore nothing was seen nor from Norway, nor from Russia. Eventually the election day came, and I won with 76% majority. So I was a president for 5 years from 2013-2018, the whole country's history. You could basically live in the country, even in the cold winters of Norway/Russia border, which some of our citizens did, especially those that are teens having troubles with their parents and school. They were basically officially serving in our military. They were basically growing food with others until end of September, then they made some concerves just putting the veggies and fish into salty water. Wich actually turned out to be much more delicious than we expected and lasted up to 3 years. So we solved our basic needs. And the others bought electric equipment to connect the houses to the small Dam, and electric heaters wich consumed up to 60% of the total generation. There was no communication with the outside, except letters that we were delivering by foot to the town we lived in. I was visiting and checking my country every weekend. There was nothing new from early October to Early December, only that we sold some of our food and built a sauna, a parliament, presidential palace and bought light bulbs for every citizen and gave it for free, some UBI so to say. We also collected the taxes on December 1st, not in money, but in concerved foods. We made cocerves from washed glass bottles full of food and salted up to the point when nor the water, nor the food inside nor water can take any more. We took 20% of the yield, but not less than 100 bottles of cucumbers, tomatoes or onion, which we were not concerving, but still measuring in 1 L bottles. This all helped us to prepare for the new year, and make even some 1 million dollars in currency, through selling the whole food surpluses, and exchanging Russian Rubles and Norwegian Kronas to dollars. Wich made us believe that we are rich, but was slightly more than 2000 usd per capita. On the 10th of December we opened a theater, a museum and a cinema in our country, and put a Christmas tree near the newly completed theater. Well the new year I spent with my parents, but the whole holiday was busy discussing our first economic, social, political and cultural development plan for 2014. On the 10 of January we agreed and accepted it. Our Idea was to seek recognition of our country from other countries, inventing our own language, making our own documents such as passports, and of course making our own sugar as the core of our program. Until June everything was fine, we introduced our passports, currency, wich we called Hyperborean Krona. And even made a farming campaign in May. But in the middle of June I was inspired by the story of The principality of Sealand, and we went into sending our ambassadors to Oslo and Moscow, both by foot and without any other documents except our own Diplomatic Passports, that we actually made even biometric. This was the end of our country. When those guys reached their respective ministries of foreign affairs they were arrested and the border control cleared the island. We were do lucky not to have any criminal records because of what we did. But that angered the whole our society and the Russian police officers blamed everything on Norway, that made us even more angry. To be continued.
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Dear forumer, I have a story to tell you of how I tried to visit the most isolated island on the world and establish my own country there. And how I was kicked out after trying to settle 6 times.. I hope you find it interesting. When I was a child I always wanted to be a leader. First time I got an opportunity to command people during my school football tournament, eventially I got the weakest team, despite this we won. After the tournament somebody joked that it would be great if we can make our own country. Everyone was laughing except me. I thought it will be a great idea, and I managed to convince others. The next weekend we went to an uninhabited island in the middle of the river, planted our flag, put our camp and proclaimed independence from Russia and Norway ( the land was on the neutral zone although on the maps it showed Norway, while it was completely accessible from Russia). Anyway, there was no one who could law enforce us, so therefore we were safe. We managed to buy axes in Russia, cutted some trees on the island, the island is slightly bigger than Monaco, so few Huts were not an issue. Also we found some poor people in Russia who agreed to settle on our land, in exchange for giving them some land. We made a free lease with the guys for exchange of support for our country. Basically after that we were back to school, where one day I found literature so boring that I managed to write our constitution in 30 minutes. The next day we held a referendum and people voted for that one. The first summer holidays were approaching. In Russia they are very long, at about 3 months. Of course we spent that time on constructing our country from scratch. On the 10th of July with another referendum we finally clarified how we are going to operate. We decided that we will have provisional government and will held elections on the day of 8 of August, spoiler alert, will be considered our independence day. Eventually in a week we rolled 2 months economic plan, which included building houses, water pumps, some wierd kind of hydropower, growing our food, making our clothes, building a small wooden town, a hospital, a police station, a border control, a raft ferry that had a capacity to lift up to 30 tons, military, printing press and airport. All necessary steps for starting our own country. From 14 July up to 20 August I was working like never before, because on 20 of August we were supposed to have a presidential election, and I wanted to become a president of the Republic of Hyperborea. Yes we loved this name. Surprisingly we completed almost all except the airport. It consumed about a quarter of the island's forest, but we were cutting from inside, therefore nothing was seen nor from Norway, nor from Russia. Eventually the election day came, and I won with 76% majority. So I was a president for 5 years from 2013-2018, the whole country's history. You could basically live in the country, even in the cold winters of Norway/Russia border, which some of our citizens did, especially those that are teens having troubles with their parents and school. They were basically officially serving in our military. They were basically growing food with others until end of September, then they made some concerves just putting the veggies and fish into salty water. Wich actually turned out to be much more delicious than we expected and lasted up to 3 years. So we solved our basic needs. And the others bought electric equipment to connect the houses to the small Dam, and electric heaters wich consumed up to 60% of the total generation. There was no communication with the outside, except letters that we were delivering by foot to the town we lived in. I was visiting and checking my country every weekend. There was nothing new from early October to Early December, only that we sold some of our food and built a sauna, a parliament, presidential palace and bought light bulbs for every citizen and gave it for free, some UBI so to say. We also collected the taxes on December 1st, not in money, but in concerved foods. We made cocerves from washed glass bottles full of food and salted up to the point when nor the water, nor the food inside nor water can take any more. We took 20% of the yield, but not less than 100 bottles of cucumbers, tomatoes or onion, which we were not concerving, but still measuring in 1 L bottles. This all helped us to prepare for the new year, and make even some 1 million dollars in currency, through selling the whole food surpluses, and exchanging Russian Rubles and Norwegian Kronas to dollars. Wich made us believe that we are rich, but was slightly more than 2000 usd per capita. On the 10th of December we opened a theater, a museum and a cinema in our country, and put a Christmas tree near the newly completed theater. Well the new year I spent with my parents, but the whole holiday was busy discussing our first economic, social, political and cultural development plan for 2014. On the 10 of January we agreed and accepted it. Our Idea was to seek recognition of our country from other countries, inventing our own language, making our own documents such as passports, and of course making our own sugar as the core of our program. Until June everything was fine, we introduced our passports, currency, wich we called Hyperborean Krona. And even made a farming campaign in May. But in the middle of June I was inspired by the story of The principality of Sealand, and we went into sending our ambassadors to Oslo and Moscow, both by foot and without any other documents except our own Diplomatic Passports, that we actually made even biometric. This was the end of our country. When those guys reached their respective ministries of foreign affairs they were arrested and the border control cleared the island. We were do lucky not to have any criminal records because of what we did. But that angered the whole our society and the Russian police officers blamed everything on Norway, that made us even more angry. To be continued.
To continue. So we met on the 1 of July with my friends in Murmansk, city in Russia. We got another plan. With the rest of our money on we hired a ship, and planned an expedition and our living on Bouvet Island. Let me first quote the Wikipedia.The island lies 1,700 kilometres (1,100 mi) north of the Princess Astrid Coast of Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, 1,900 kilometres (1,200 mi) east of the South Sandwich Islands, 1,600 kilometres (990 mi) south of Gough Island, and 2,600 kilometres (1,600 mi) south-southwest of the coast of South Africa. It has an area of 49 square kilometres (19 sq mi), 93 percent of which is covered by a glacier. The centre of the island is the ice-filled crater of an inactive volcano. Some skerries and one smaller island, Larsøya, lie along its coast. Nyrøysa, created by a rock slide in the late 1950s, is the only easy place to land and is the location of a weather station. The island was first spotted on 1 January 1739 by the Frenchman Jean-Baptiste Charles Bouvet de Lozier, during a French exploration mission in the South Atlantic with the ships Aigle and Marie. They did not make landfall. He mislabeled the coordinates for the island, and it was not sighted again until 1808, when the British whaling captain James Lindsay encountered it and named it Lindsay Island.[5] The first claim to have landed on the island was made by the American sailor Benjamin Morrell, although this claim is disputed. In 1825, the island was claimed for the British Crown by George Norris, who named it Liverpool Island. He also reported having sighted another island nearby, which he named Thompson Island, but this was later shown to be a phantom island. In 1927, the first Norvegia expedition landed on the island, and claimed it for Norway. At that point, the island was given its current name of Bouvet Island ("Bouvetøya" in Norwegian).[6] In 1930, following resolution of a dispute with the United Kingdom over claiming rights, it was declared a Norwegian dependency. In 1971, it was designated a nature reserve. Quote end. This is the most isolated island in the world with the closest inhabited island 2000 km away, and 12000 km away from Norway. We thought it will be the best choice for us to claim this land. Because the Norwegian law enforcement would even know that we are there, let alone send a ship to kick us from that island, that will be prohibitively expensive. We'll something else kicked us out. On 1 September, without notifying our parents we bought for 200000usd ship with my friends and went to settle the island. It took us 1.5 months to arrive there with stops in Morocco and South Africa. When we arrived we were shocked. 90% of the island is basically Ice with only 4 km² free to settle. The temperature was never exceeding 5degrees Celsius. There was only fish, birds, mushrooms and a hot spring from natural resources. That was all the island could offer. Every month we went to South Africa to replenish our Supplies. After our 90 visa free days in South Africa finished we were only allowed to refuel in ZAR. We had no choice but to get our supplies from Russia, and we were left only with 300000usd from the beginning of the year. So we took another 200000usd and 20 tonns of fish. We stopped in ZAR then in Morocco. Then we went straight to Russia. Where we were arrested. And tortured at Murmansk. After that the Norwegians sent a ship to the island and delivered everyone to Russia back. Where we had to do 50 hours of public work as penalty for illegally crossing the border. I used the rest of my money to visit Bouvet Island 5 more times. The last time it was December 2020.
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December 08, 2021, 08:35:02 PM |
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Dear forumer, I have a story to tell you of how I tried to visit the most isolated island on the world and establish my own country there. And how I was kicked out after trying to settle 6 times.. I hope you find it interesting. When I was a child I always wanted to be a leader. First time I got an opportunity to command people during my school football tournament, eventially I got the weakest team, despite this we won. After the tournament somebody joked that it would be great if we can make our own country. Everyone was laughing except me. I thought it will be a great idea, and I managed to convince others. The next weekend we went to an uninhabited island in the middle of the river, planted our flag, put our camp and proclaimed independence from Russia and Norway ( the land was on the neutral zone although on the maps it showed Norway, while it was completely accessible from Russia). Anyway, there was no one who could law enforce us, so therefore we were safe. We managed to buy axes in Russia, cutted some trees on the island, the island is slightly bigger than Monaco, so few Huts were not an issue. Also we found some poor people in Russia who agreed to settle on our land, in exchange for giving them some land. We made a free lease with the guys for exchange of support for our country. Basically after that we were back to school, where one day I found literature so boring that I managed to write our constitution in 30 minutes. The next day we held a referendum and people voted for that one. The first summer holidays were approaching. In Russia they are very long, at about 3 months. Of course we spent that time on constructing our country from scratch. On the 10th of July with another referendum we finally clarified how we are going to operate. We decided that we will have provisional government and will held elections on the day of 8 of August, spoiler alert, will be considered our independence day. Eventually in a week we rolled 2 months economic plan, which included building houses, water pumps, some wierd kind of hydropower, growing our food, making our clothes, building a small wooden town, a hospital, a police station, a border control, a raft ferry that had a capacity to lift up to 30 tons, military, printing press and airport. All necessary steps for starting our own country. From 14 July up to 20 August I was working like never before, because on 20 of August we were supposed to have a presidential election, and I wanted to become a president of the Republic of Hyperborea. Yes we loved this name. Surprisingly we completed almost all except the airport. It consumed about a quarter of the island's forest, but we were cutting from inside, therefore nothing was seen nor from Norway, nor from Russia. Eventually the election day came, and I won with 76% majority. So I was a president for 5 years from 2013-2018, the whole country's history. You could basically live in the country, even in the cold winters of Norway/Russia border, which some of our citizens did, especially those that are teens having troubles with their parents and school. They were basically officially serving in our military. They were basically growing food with others until end of September, then they made some concerves just putting the veggies and fish into salty water. Wich actually turned out to be much more delicious than we expected and lasted up to 3 years. So we solved our basic needs. And the others bought electric equipment to connect the houses to the small Dam, and electric heaters wich consumed up to 60% of the total generation. There was no communication with the outside, except letters that we were delivering by foot to the town we lived in. I was visiting and checking my country every weekend. There was nothing new from early October to Early December, only that we sold some of our food and built a sauna, a parliament, presidential palace and bought light bulbs for every citizen and gave it for free, some UBI so to say. We also collected the taxes on December 1st, not in money, but in concerved foods. We made cocerves from washed glass bottles full of food and salted up to the point when nor the water, nor the food inside nor water can take any more. We took 20% of the yield, but not less than 100 bottles of cucumbers, tomatoes or onion, which we were not concerving, but still measuring in 1 L bottles. This all helped us to prepare for the new year, and make even some 1 million dollars in currency, through selling the whole food surpluses, and exchanging Russian Rubles and Norwegian Kronas to dollars. Wich made us believe that we are rich, but was slightly more than 2000 usd per capita. On the 10th of December we opened a theater, a museum and a cinema in our country, and put a Christmas tree near the newly completed theater. Well the new year I spent with my parents, but the whole holiday was busy discussing our first economic, social, political and cultural development plan for 2014. On the 10 of January we agreed and accepted it. Our Idea was to seek recognition of our country from other countries, inventing our own language, making our own documents such as passports, and of course making our own sugar as the core of our program. Until June everything was fine, we introduced our passports, currency, wich we called Hyperborean Krona. And even made a farming campaign in May. But in the middle of June I was inspired by the story of The principality of Sealand, and we went into sending our ambassadors to Oslo and Moscow, both by foot and without any other documents except our own Diplomatic Passports, that we actually made even biometric. This was the end of our country. When those guys reached their respective ministries of foreign affairs they were arrested and the border control cleared the island. We were do lucky not to have any criminal records because of what we did. But that angered the whole our society and the Russian police officers blamed everything on Norway, that made us even more angry. To be continued.
To continue. So we met on the 1 of July with my friends in Murmansk, city in Russia. We got another plan. With the rest of our money on we hired a ship, and planned an expedition and our living on Bouvet Island. Let me first quote the Wikipedia.The island lies 1,700 kilometres (1,100 mi) north of the Princess Astrid Coast of Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, 1,900 kilometres (1,200 mi) east of the South Sandwich Islands, 1,600 kilometres (990 mi) south of Gough Island, and 2,600 kilometres (1,600 mi) south-southwest of the coast of South Africa. It has an area of 49 square kilometres (19 sq mi), 93 percent of which is covered by a glacier. The centre of the island is the ice-filled crater of an inactive volcano. Some skerries and one smaller island, Larsøya, lie along its coast. Nyrøysa, created by a rock slide in the late 1950s, is the only easy place to land and is the location of a weather station. The island was first spotted on 1 January 1739 by the Frenchman Jean-Baptiste Charles Bouvet de Lozier, during a French exploration mission in the South Atlantic with the ships Aigle and Marie. They did not make landfall. He mislabeled the coordinates for the island, and it was not sighted again until 1808, when the British whaling captain James Lindsay encountered it and named it Lindsay Island.[5] The first claim to have landed on the island was made by the American sailor Benjamin Morrell, although this claim is disputed. In 1825, the island was claimed for the British Crown by George Norris, who named it Liverpool Island. He also reported having sighted another island nearby, which he named Thompson Island, but this was later shown to be a phantom island. In 1927, the first Norvegia expedition landed on the island, and claimed it for Norway. At that point, the island was given its current name of Bouvet Island ("Bouvetøya" in Norwegian).[6] In 1930, following resolution of a dispute with the United Kingdom over claiming rights, it was declared a Norwegian dependency. In 1971, it was designated a nature reserve. Quote end. This is the most isolated island in the world with the closest inhabited island 2000 km away, and 12000 km away from Norway. We thought it will be the best choice for us to claim this land. Because the Norwegian law enforcement would even know that we are there, let alone send a ship to kick us from that island, that will be prohibitively expensive. We'll something else kicked us out. On 1 September, without notifying our parents we bought for 200000usd ship with my friends and went to settle the island. It took us 1.5 months to arrive there with stops in Morocco and South Africa. When we arrived we were shocked. 90% of the island is basically Ice with only 4 km² free to settle. The temperature was never exceeding 5degrees Celsius. There was only fish, birds, mushrooms and a hot spring from natural resources. That was all the island could offer. Every month we went to South Africa to replenish our Supplies. After our 90 visa free days in South Africa finished we were only allowed to refuel in ZAR. We had no choice but to get our supplies from Russia, and we were left only with 300000usd from the beginning of the year. So we took another 200000usd and 20 tonns of fish. We stopped in ZAR then in Morocco. Then we went straight to Russia. Where we were arrested. And tortured at Murmansk. After that the Norwegians sent a ship to the island and delivered everyone to Russia back. Where we had to do 50 hours of public work as penalty for illegally crossing the border. I used the rest of my money to visit Bouvet Island 5 more times. The last time it was December 2020. All of those visits are illegal so I can easily get into prison, and also I got contact with neo Naz in Norway. Now recently, I understood that I love this island. In fact it was not the Norwegians that sent the ship but the same Russian, sorry for this mistake.I still want to establish my country on that island. I have a question for you to answer. Firstly, what are the chances of the recognition of the country even if I will be able to build a geothermal powerplant, and yes it is a dormant volcano, and extract the nutrients from seawater to grow plants on hydroponics. Wich I have developed and tested on my own. And I really managed to extract nutrients, and grow green plant. Secondly will Norway invade the island in case of non-recognition of our country. And finally do you think that a prosperous nation can live on this island? Me I make a parallel between Bouvet Island 🇧🇻 and Iceland 🇮🇸. It is practically the same and Iceland is a rich nation. I am thinking of restarting my country and building a settlement from scratch. If someone wants to join me or help me I will be very happy.
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Republic of Hyperborea. Hyperborean Krona. spoiler alert hyperborea is a mythical island meanwhile in the real world. actual developers were making the town of kovdor in the russian/finland border the capital of the land of hyperborea. (emphasis other developers. emphasis finland, not norway border) they were also establishing land in the kola peninsular as this land of hyperborea officially, which would bring tourists and such. seems the topic creator is taking a russian/finland project. and twisting it into some russian/norway fairytale where he as a kid that had dreams and is the inventor and leader of his mythical version of something he read. now lets just wait for this topic creators "fund raising" post where he pretends he is in some medical/legal trouble or selling shares, plots, leases and needs funds.. you know.. the usual script anyways. not an original game to play. bored now. moving on
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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True or not, it's a great story and I like it.
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Lets face it the place is to cold for just about everyone, lots of better places and everyone is his/her own entity anyway if he chooses to do so.
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