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December 09, 2021, 01:25:04 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
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December 09, 2021, 01:27:52 PM |
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There's nothing wrong with that if you ask someone to correct your article. In fact, there was a project by Jetcash and jackg back in the day where both offered to help newbie to write English perfectly and helped some newbies to correctly present there article. I think talkmerit was the project name but I'm not exactly sure, I have forgot the name.
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December 09, 2021, 01:29:46 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
Not a crime or plagiarism of course, but the fact that you let other people correct your post, it looks like you are not the one making the post. So I suggest that you stay in your local if you cannot at least make a post that is understandable to everyone. Are you referring to a post in this forum? or an article to be posted on a specific website?
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December 09, 2021, 01:37:59 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
You are using proofreading services so it's legal. But if you are copying a paragraph from an article regardless if its your own or not, You should attached a reference to that particular article so that no one will accused you as plagiarism. You should aleays provide a source link if you are using a carbon copy statement from an article that posted online. That's the golden rule here. Many newbie might use this kind of excuse for plagiarism to have an easy post though.
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December 09, 2021, 02:40:34 PM |
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Plagiarism is more or less the use of somebody else’s prior work, to kind of pass all or part of it as your own, without crediting the real author. Now here, in your hypothetical scenario, if you write the article yourself, with your own words to begin with (not resorting to copy/[spin]/paste), then there should be no plagiarism involved (you may need to consider reference links though if need be). Having somebody else correct your English, is not that far off from using some grammar tools to aid your writing, and there should not be anything wrong with that per se. You may need to consider though why you are doing it to begin with, and how you will deal with answering questions and/or subsequent posts if you are currently struggling with your English.
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uchegod-21 (OP)
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December 09, 2021, 04:02:18 PM |
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There's nothing wrong with that if you ask someone to correct your article. In fact, there was a project by Jetcash and jackg back in the day where both offered to help newbie to write English perfectly and helped some newbies to correctly present there article. I think talkmerit was the project name but I'm not exactly sure, I have forgot the name.
Thank you very much. I will search it. And I will involve. Having somebody else correct your English, is not that far off from using some grammar tools to aid your writing, and there should not be anything wrong with that per se. You may need to consider though why you are doing it to begin with, and how you will deal with answering questions and/or subsequent posts if you are currently struggling with your English.
The one I put in yellow color is a problem. My article will be too fine and another article will not be fine. Is good somebody will teach me and I will be trying all by myself. Are you referring to a post in this forum? or an article to be posted on a specific website?
Am talking about here in the forum.
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December 09, 2021, 04:15:32 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
You literally described the jobs of editors and translators ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Of course, there is nothing wrong with that, that's how books get written and published, scientific papers get released. There is even a thing on this forum where you translate someone else's work for your local board and give the author credit in your notes for the original work. Just be sure to list all sources you got your info from and that's about it.
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December 09, 2021, 04:58:55 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
uchegod: if I understand this correctly, you gave your post to somebody else for correction and they posted it as if it was theirs. I can't comment on the legality of it, but, being that I'm also very self conscious about the quality (or lack thereof) of my own English (I'm Argentinian, so I speak Spanish), my advise to you would be to not worry that much about it. You will find most people around here will do their best to understand you and help you out. Just do your best, and you'll be ok.
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December 09, 2021, 06:43:51 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
Just an advise, you don't have to present yourself as perfect because doing exactly what you just said is doing that. If you want to improve your English language genuinely, do so because you want to better yourself and not trying to impress anyone on the forum. If you have a local bored, participate more in there than the English board until you have perfected your English. Another thing is writing in your best English language and users here will gladly correct and even assist you then appearing well equiped in English when you're not. Most well known members on the forum, their english isn't perfect but provided it can be understandable, they get a pass and rewarded.
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December 09, 2021, 06:46:09 PM |
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It is not a bad thing but it also show that you didn't give yourself a time to learn english. I know it sounds offensive in my opinion for saying that but it's what I think about what you do. Anyway, It's not a crime to let some correct the english in your article before posting it and at the same time you'll know which mistakes you did when the person who corrected the article. Soon you will learn and there is something that can help with your grammar if you have a problem with like grammarly. Maybe it can help. Even me will make some mistakes in my English so don't worry about that as my guess is you are still learning English language.
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December 09, 2021, 08:42:09 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
How does this cry plagiarism! I mean, having someone audit your write up doesn't in anyway make it less original or not yours. It's always going to be yours except, the auditor mistakenly or purposely publishes it anywhere. Then, you've got a tale to tell as to how that work has got any origin from you coupled with some evidence from the first publisher on what actually transpired. I once came across a user who was questioned to have plagiarised a content that was supposedly his on reddit. The user just had to prove he or she owned it by going to the original post and made some editing as a form of prove and the aligations was cast aside.
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December 09, 2021, 08:54:03 PM |
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The one I put in yellow color is a problem. My article will be too fine and another article will not be fine. Is good somebody will teach me and I will be trying all by myself.
You would be just fine by saying that English is not your native language. in cases that people ask various questions to you. It won't be a problem in either's end. Just keep practicing your English writing skills, so you won't depend in any tools or from someone's aid to help you with that.
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December 09, 2021, 09:50:01 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
I think it's not a crime and it's not a plagiarism as the content of the post is not copied from another writer, you are the original writer but you only ask someone to help and rearrange the words for you in the right way. But it's advisable to be trying as much as possible to improve since you are really interested in article writing.
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December 09, 2021, 09:53:34 PM |
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You may need to consider though why you are doing it to begin with, and how you will deal with answering questions and/or subsequent posts if you are currently struggling with your English Is true. But I want to do it so that I can write long article like the once am seeing in this forum. Another thing is writing in your best English language and users here will gladly correct and even assist you then appearing well equiped in English when you're not I will take this advice from you. Orders are talking the same thing too. It is not a bad thing but it also show that you didn't give yourself a time to learn english. I know it sounds offensive in my opinion for saying that but it's what I think about what you do. I am learning. My learning is working well. I am changing since I join this group. uchegod: if I understand this correctly, you gave your post to somebody else for correction and they posted it as if it was theirs. No it has not happen. It was what I am thinking to do. I want to know if is a crime first.
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December 09, 2021, 11:29:46 PM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
For me nothing wrong about this giving your article to someone else who correct your grammar and english is okay. But in my own perspective you don't have to that and we all know that we are not all native english speakers/good in grammar here but we must try our best. We must practice our self in order to improve our knowledge about our Universal language. Ill suggest you op instead of using someone else you can use grammarly which is it can helps you to practice your grammar. Then you can delete it if you alrrady mastered your grammar and english speaking.
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December 09, 2021, 11:30:43 PM |
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I do not think it is a crime as per my understanding anything that is copied blatantly is considered plagiarized. In your case, you are trying to get your English corrected by someone which is not a crime. But, if you copy and then use translate then it is considered plagiarized content and if caught you then get banned from the forum.
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December 10, 2021, 12:44:46 AM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
that's basically proofreading(someone who fixes typos, wrong grammar, etc...). a lot of writers and journalists hire people to proofread their stories, articles, to make sure that there are no typos, wrong grammar, errors, and etc... as long as you wrote the article yourself and hire someone to proofread it, it is not considered as plagiarism.
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First and foremost, it is not a crime not to know English. So whether you make a direct post or you have it corrected by your friend first before posting does not matter. I mean, there is no crime there. I suppose your friend is not tasked to change the gist of your post but only the grammar so that you could effectively express what you have in mind.
Plagiarism is not what you are referring to. Plagiarism is copying someone else's words and make them appear as if they are your own.
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December 10, 2021, 03:55:55 AM |
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I am learning. My learning is working well. I am changing since I join this group.
That's good to know that you are learning well and also looking for advises from forum members in this forum. Continue what you are doing right now and soon you'll write your own article with better grammar and better article(s) with good english after learning. Plagiarism is different where you posted an article that you are not the one who made it. In your case is, you made it yourself but with a corrections so need to worry.
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December 10, 2021, 05:29:07 AM |
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
It's not crime when you write an article that comprises that larger stanzas and smaller stanzas and ask for assistance for correction and all the rest, even in the universities it's done, whereby an academic doctors will write a book and take it above person who's knows more better for a correction purposes such a professor of such field for proper scrutinized of errors, so when somebody correct your articles for you it's not a plagarism... A plagarism is the process whereby you copy and paste an article of already without reference and claim to be right owner of the work.
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