Ledger Nano S Plus

[SFR10]

The gap on top/below each lines is rather big, those gap size could be reduced to fit 4 lines though.

Exactly... The same goes for the noticeable gaps beside the left and right arrows ^{[those gaps almost don't exist on the Nano X, hence why it could fit more characters on each line]}.

Screen does look cheap but that is nothing new and I wrote before that you can order new display for regular Nano S from China for just few dollars, I don't think that this display is much more expensive.

If it's possible to replace its screen with one that supports a slightly higher resolution, then that might actually work ^{[without having to wait for the Ledger to make some adjustments on its firmware]}.

It appears like there is only 3 lines of text like you say, but maybe there will be more characters that can fit the whole address...so let's wait and see.

Judging by the image you've posted the other day, I counted 14 characters for the Nano S Plus, whereas on the Nano X is 18 characters.
^{- A reduced font size might do the trick as well.}

[Pmalek]

Despite having a larger screen, looks like it's still not going to display the full address:
Nano X has "four" lines of text ^{[screenshots: #1 and #2]}, but this one has only "three"!

We still don't know how the Nano S Plus will display addresses on the screen. For example, if they got rid of the first line that says Address, like it does on the Nano X, they could fit the whole address in one go. The first line is unnecessary anyway and doesn't have to display the address part. It could also be displayed just for a few seconds and then switch to the actual address or you need to right-click to move from the address line. All in all, it's easily fixable. 

[SFR10]

Little update:

While I was searching for new information on google, I stumbled upon two of its "official resellers" from the Netherlands... Both of them are showing the price as €119,95 ^{[considering that the price of Nano S remained the same, I was hoping it'd be closer to that]} and the delivery date on the first week of April:

• BTCDirect ^[archived]
• Cryptomaan ^[archived]

[dkbit98]

While I was searching for new information on google, I stumbled upon two of its "official resellers" from the Netherlands... Both of them are showing the price as €119,95 ^{[considering that the price of Nano S remained the same, I was hoping it'd be closer to that]} and the delivery date on the first week of April:

Nice find!
I was searching to find any information about release date but all I saw was some claims that new devices will be released soon or in several weeks, so your post is the first real clue for release date.
btw I don't know if anyone saw this, but everything ledger related is now filled with cringe music videos, and Paris Hilton advertising ledger devices
Nobody knows how much money they are spending for this crap but it must be a lot, they even brag about it on twitter...

Paris Hilton with her bling ledger:
https://twitter.com/bobbyhundreds/status/1492975295661363200

Saweetie - Closer music video with ledger... oh and notice first comment below this post about defective ledger device 
https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1493284636700643337

YG - Scared Money ft. J. Cole, Moneybagg Yo (obviously shilling ledger)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGJxTuYJP8o

[dkbit98]

It's just Ledger advertising tactic to target different user base (not us), although i doubt it's very effective.

I think that this propaganda tactics is sadly effective because they are still best selling hardware wallet in the world with millions of sold devices, despite all the problems they have and the fact they are closed source.
They are even tagging Lebron James on Twitter, so they are probably looking for new promoters...

But i wonder what BTCDirect mean by Key Ring? Is it physical key ring for accessory or tool to store your sensitive information (just like GNOME Keyring, but in physical form)?

It's probably nothing, just regular keychain strap ledger is sending in package for all their devices, so you can wear it with your house keys, if you are crazy enough to do that  
They don't care about customer sensitive information.

[SFR10]

Nice find!
I was searching to find any information about release date but all I saw was some claims that new devices will be released soon or in several weeks, so your post is the first real clue for release date.

Thank you... I got annoyed at how they were responding to inquiries, so I had to look for other sources and I got lucky

Nobody knows how much money they are spending for this crap but it must be a lot, they even brag about it on twitter...
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Saweetie - Closer music video with ledger... oh and notice first comment below this post about defective ledger device 
https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1493284636700643337

I'm a straight guy but this one looks amazing and it seems that they're trying to take credit for the "custom-made Diamond-adorned version that Greg Yuna" created <sup>[a free ad maybe?]
- For what it's worth, nothing beats the "18K Solid Gold Nano S design by Litecoin Foundation".</sup>

Nice find, it's more expensive than i expected.

Thank you... Yes, I really wanted to get one as a collectible item, but I think I'll skip this one for now.

But i wonder what BTCDirect mean by Key Ring?

I think @dkbit98 is right.

[Pmalek]

• BTCDirect ^[archived]
• Cryptomaan ^[archived]

I didn't notice before that the two sites are identical. The only difference is that one is created for the British market, while the other one is for The Netherlands and possible Belgium.

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They seem to be throwing a lot of money on marketing campaigns right now.
Two days ago they announced a campaign with Hublot, and it will be possible to purchase 50 limited-edition watches. A Nano X is also part of the deal.


Source: https://wwd.com/accessories-news/watches/hublot-limited-edition-big-bang-unico-crypto-ledger-wallet-1235077104/?fbclid=IwAR2poYNpzXhdQK4rge8CxFZT-jMm1Ktg_IUwJq6kc-EF5qI33RcTr00JWqM

[dkbit98]

They seem to be throwing a lot of money on marketing campaigns right now.
Two days ago they announced a campaign with Hublot, and it will be possible to purchase 50 limited-edition watches. A Nano X is also part of the deal.

Yeah I saw that shit, first Paris Hilton, cringe music videos, Lebron James and now Hublot watches ''special edition'', all of that has nothing to do with bitcoin and hardware wallets.
Meanwhile, their reddit channel is full complains like this example when brand new nono x devices go crazy when plugged in with usb cable...
Ledger support suggests draining the battery (bat-pandemic is very much alive) but it's obviously not working... watch the video below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/su0cs9/faulty_brand_new_nanox_goes_crazy_when_plugged/

Here is one more ledger device having party time after being connected with cable into computer or phone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/ssqv5k/strange_behavior_when_plugged_into_a_computer_or/

I can't believe they are advertising something that is full of problems like this, and checking their twitter profile page looks more like a page of some prostitute... no offence prostitutes.

[PrivacyG]

Yeah I saw that shit, first Paris Hilton, cringe music videos, Lebron James and now Hublot watches ''special edition'', all of that has nothing to do with bitcoin and hardware wallets.
Meanwhile, their reddit channel is full complains like this example when brand new nono x devices go crazy when plugged in with usb cable...

Proof they care about sales and not customers.  Unfortunate that we do not have a battle tested Cryptocurrency hardware wallet producer like Trezor and Ledger to care about their clients as well.  This kind of marketing may be giving us a hint that Ledger's sales have dropped significantly against their competitors, they are advertising as a preparation for the new products or they are just getting greedy and care mostly about sales now.

What sucks is that even the new products they are releasing are a more expensive 'collectors' edition of what already exists or a new product that is supposed to be better than the others but is not really.  Some of their customers just want their malfunctioned Ledger to work properly, and they are advertising diamond limited edition versions of it.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

[dkbit98]

I just saw that Ledger started to open registration for new nono S plus device waiting list, but I would not suggest anyone to use their main email address or pre-order this device.
Obviously nothing changed regarding their licensing and they continue to be closed source, focused mostly on nft, and other shitcoins... not a word about Bitcoin on this page!
Device should have bigger screen and memory with up to 100 apps, but I am afraid it could inherit some of the weaknesses from older model X:
https://shop.ledger.com/pages/ledger-nano-s-plus

[m2017]

I just saw that Ledger started to open registration for new nono S plus device waiting list, but I would not suggest anyone to use their main email address or pre-order this device.

Do you think they will lose email address? We can do a little test: create a new mailing address and put it on their website. If phishing offers (or what threats do you expect?) come in, we will know who is to blame. But there is a nuance, it is not known how long this will happen.

Obviously nothing changed regarding their licensing and they continue to be closed source, focused mostly on nft, and other shitcoins... not a word about Bitcoin on this page!

I think their marketing department is to blame. They are trying to attract buyers with the help of hype topics. Of course, nft - mega hype of the past year.

[ledgernano.net]

I have some internal sources about Ledger Nano S Plus.
The retail price in Europe will be 119 Euros.
So, with increasing Ledger Nano X from 119 in 2021 to 149 euros.
Now this devices is coming for 119 Euros.
I am sure Ledger is going to make a great money with selling this device.
Remember that older brother is only 59 Euros!!!!
Additionally Ledger Nano S release date will be April 2022.
https://walletjoo.com/product/ledger-nano-s-plus/
https://ledgernano.net/product/ledger-nano-s-plus/

[SFR10]

I would not suggest anyone to use their main email address or pre-order this device.

As much as I hate to say this, I have a feeling a lot of users will do the latter if Ledger offers such a thing in the near future ^{[especially if it comes with a good discount]}.

I have some internal sources about Ledger Nano S Plus.
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Too late

[n0nce]

I just saw that Ledger started to open registration for new nono S plus device waiting list, but I would not suggest anyone to use their main email address or pre-order this device.

Do you think they will lose email address? We can do a little test: create a new mailing address and put it on their website. If phishing offers (or what threats do you expect?) come in, we will know who is to blame. But there is a nuance, it is not known how long this will happen.

I like this idea! Since I often use purpose-specific email addresses, I already noticed a few times that I get lots of spam on some and none on others, so it does really help identify where it comes from / who is leaking & selling email addresses. Would be interesting to check with Ledger.

I have some internal sources about Ledger Nano S Plus.
The retail price in Europe will be 119 Euros.

That's way too much for what it offers. Set aside all of Ledger's history: who wants a 120€ closed-source wallet with USB connection and tiny screen? There are much better options like Trezor, BitBox (aside AOPP shit), and even $200 Passport will be a better deal than 120 for a Ledger.
For 60 bucks I'd say: in a pinch, maybe get the Ledger, keep a seed backup, and plan to replace it with something better in the near future. But double that.. for what? For a few measly MB of storage? Come on, it's 2022. We have terabytes of flash storage in laptops, phones, tablets, and they ask 120 bucks for 2MB & a few music videos?


Now I just got a random idea: collecting lists of how many wallets HW wallet companies have already discontinued and how long they're operating. It seems to me at first sight, that Ledger will be #1.

Ledger: Ledger HW.1, Ledger Nano, Ledger Unplugged, Ledger Blue , (soon? Ledger Nano X)
ColdCard: ColdCard mk1, ColdCard mk2, ColdCard mk3
Foundation: Passport v1
Cobo: Cobo Vault
BitBox: BitBox01
Trezor: -
Keystone: -

[PrivacyG]

Now I just got a random idea: collecting lists of how many wallets HW wallet companies have already discontinued and how long they're operating. It seems to me at first sight, that Ledger will be #1.

Holy cow, they really did discontinue a ton of products and some of these were expensive as hell.  It is like they keep creating something new with no new features added just to keep us spending on their crap.  But what the hell is going on with that price of the S Plus?  I feel like I am looking at a bad remaster of a game.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

[tehrancrypto]

Does anyone know when this model will be in the mark?


I see that how this brand ledger is hated here!!  
Even more the product Ledger Nano S PLus!
But according to this vote on Reddit people prefer to buy it most.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/sclh51/ledger_nano_x_black_box_2022_vs_ledger_nano_x/
What do you think?
 

[SFR10]

But double that.. for what? For a few measly MB of storage?

When they increased the price of Nano X to 149€, "they blamed supply shortages", so I expect them to also give the exact same "excuse" for the Nano S Plus.

Does anyone know when this model will be in the mark?

That's strange! Your "alt account", seems to know a lot of details from his/her so-called "internal sources"!

[dkbit98]

Do you think they will lose email address? We can do a little test: create a new mailing address and put it on their website. If phishing offers (or what threats do you expect?) come in, we will know who is to blame. But there is a nuance, it is not known how long this will happen.

I don't think they will lose anything, and I always use temporary alternative email addresses when I am registering for some testing like in this case.
Some of my old emails are receiving spam all the time, so for anything new I sign up I use new email address.

I have some internal sources about Ledger Nano S Plus.

Is this the same source that told you about ledger store you ''found'' in Iran? 
I would not pay 119 euros for nono S plus because it's untested, closed source device and I bet it's going to have similar problems like terrible model X.
Double the price for a bit more memory and larger screen is not a good deal in my opinion.

[Pmalek]

I would not pay 119 euros for nono S plus because it's untested, closed source device and I bet it's going to have similar problems like terrible model X.
Double the price for a bit more memory and larger screen is not a good deal in my opinion.

I wouldn't buy it either. First because I couldn't care less about their DeFi and NFT support, and second because I don't need it to store my Bitcoin. The Nano S works just fine after many years. Yes, I know it's closed-source.

However, your argument that the Nano S Plus shouldn't be bought because it's untested can be used for any hardware wallet or any piece of equipment that is brand-new. It can't be tested before it's developed and released to the general public. So, I would like to expand on your thought process and say that you shouldn't buy any new hardware wallet by Ledger, Trezor, Passport, (insert company name), for at least a few months to a year to give those who know what they are doing enough time to test it and try to break it. Those who can do it themselves, even better.   

[n0nce]

So, I would like to expand on your thought process and say that you shouldn't buy any new hardware wallet by Ledger, Trezor, Passport, (insert company name), for at least a few months to a year to give those who know what they are doing enough time to test it and try to break it. Those who can do it themselves, even better.   

Honestly, it's not bad advice in general.
That's where I come in and mention open source code & code 'reuse' though: By Foundation forking off tried & tested ColdCard code, essentially large part of the Passport's codebase is already at least reasonably trustable to be secure.
This is a general concept: if there was more collaboration of HW wallet manufacturers and developers, it would be possible to create a 'master firmware' for hardware wallets that everyone, also new companies, could use & hit the ground running. Beneficial for (new) businesses and users.