JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas

[sotelorene]

You're right because there's no real and serious Bitcoin investment that places more priority on profit than reaching his his target except for those that are traders, traders are known for their profit hunting, that's what they try to do whatever analysis that I don't know for the purpose of their unrealistic goals and anyone that sounds in such manner should be consider himself as a trader.
It gets to me badly when I hear people talking about profit as if they have been investing and accumulating Bitcoin for a very long time, do we even need to tamper out Bitcoin as invetsors, some people think that one they make profit, the next thing is to withdraw it, if so, what is the purpose of calling oneself a real long-term investment.

Investors that their major concern is to make profit from Bitcoin investment are not good hodlers.  They may not have specific time of when to take profit from their investment but because of the essence why they are investing is to make profit.  Investing to make profit from Bitcoin is not bad  but it is good for investors to know their is more to just make profit  im Bitcoin investment. Bitcoin investment is also a store value that people can invest for the future. If you understand the value of Bitcoin and where the price of Bitcoin is heading to, making profit will be the least thing to think about but to invest and hodl Bitcoin.

Accumulating and buying of Bitcoin should be the major concern of any good Bitcoin hodler than just thinking of on the profits he will make, you are very correct on your explanation and i concord to it, and most times, it is the newbies that are still accumulate using DCA method in buying small small will start talking about profits making and when they are aware of Bitcoin adding in value as the years approaching by, as a newbie or older investor, is good to hold down your Bitcoin investments for the futures to come.

Having a thought about making profit about Bitcoin investment is not wrong, it is always the primary aim of every investor but they do not put it at forefront of their investment because it can make them tamper with their investment when they have not gotten to their overaccumulation stage. I disagree when you said it is mostly newbie that use the DCA method to accumulate Bitcoin because almost or if not all investors uses the DCA method in accumulating Bitcoin.

[Alonso_]

The diversion was not really called for since the discussion is anchored on Bitcoin and how to make a successful investment in profit from it. Gold is expensive to procure compared to Bitcoin and the idea of Bitcoin as digital gold has been the much reason why people want to always compare gold to Bitcoin in every little investment discussions as this. For it divisibility, simplicity, storage and long term perspective I'll go for Bitcoin investment as one better modern investment idea over gold on a long term run.

When Investing thinking about profit is wrong, it gives you the wrong mentality of a trader that is only after quick gains. Of course we all want our investment to be successful but we shouldn't be too focused on profits because it is not even guaranteed, no one knows exactly when they will make profit. People should understand that investing is not about profit but rather preserving money you have now to build a better future.

You are right, no investor wants it investment to fail but when it comes to bitcoin investment it differs from other investment, it sole aim it to help secure your future, to help you have that guarantee that in the future you have something to lean on.

We have seen a lot of traders who called themselves investors coming with that mindset to make quick cash over it and at the end these set of people are the ones who will come out tomorrow and say bitcoin investment is a gamble.

Having that mindset of a trader will only gives you wrong impression about bitcoin as a whole.

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

[Stive009]

Having a thought about making profit about Bitcoin investment is not wrong, it is always the primary aim of every investor but they do not put it at forefront of their investment because it can make them tamper with their investment when they have not gotten to their overaccumulation stage. I disagree when you said it is mostly newbie that use the DCA method to accumulate Bitcoin because almost or if not all investors uses the DCA method in accumulating Bitcoin.

Thinking only about profit can create a trading mindset. Because traders only think about profit in the short term. Even if a long-term investor has a profit objective, their mindset at the beginning is how to hold for a long time. Because the possibility of making a profit by holding for a long time increases. It has been confirmed from the past price history that those who have invested for about 4 years or more have made a profit several times.

And for new investors, the DCA method is useful and easy.  It has become very popular among new investors. But I think it is absolutely correct that even experienced investors have now followed the DCA method and invested. Because a few days ago I was investigating Michael Saylor holdings. He has been buying Bitcoin regularly since about 2020. If his buying time is gapped for many days, but that is consistent. He does not even calculate the price low or high and DCA Bitcoin. He also bought Bitcoin when it was around the all-time high, even after the price dropped, he is doing as before. This is because of his long-term mindset. Big investors and institutions like them DCA with few months gaps and on a large scale. And their holding mindset is relatively long-term. Although it is not right to compare them with ordinary people like us, one thing really surprises me that where many ordinary people like us are still skeptical about Bitcoin, where there is a fear of investing even with a small amount of money, there are such big investors investing with billions of dollars, although they are doing it according to their ability. That means at least it is understood that they are holding BTC when they are investing in it, except for big sectors like Gold, Land or other Technology, so Bitcoin definitely has the potential to give good profits in the long term. I am not saying it will surely give profit but possibility is high.

[Grease5000]

Having a thought about making profit about Bitcoin investment is not wrong, it is always the primary aim of every investor but they do not put it at forefront of their investment because it can make them tamper with their investment when they have not gotten to their overaccumulation stage. I disagree when you said it is mostly newbie that use the DCA method to accumulate Bitcoin because almost or if not all investors uses the DCA method in accumulating Bitcoin.

Thinking only about profit can create a trading mindset. Because traders only think about profit in the short term. Even if a long-term investor has a profit objective, their mindset at the beginning is how to hold for a long time. Because the possibility of making a profit by holding for a long time increases. It has been confirmed from the past price history that those who have invested for about 4 years or more have made a profit several times.

And for new investors, the DCA method is useful and easy.  It has become very popular among new investors. But I think it is absolutely correct that even experienced investors have now followed the DCA method and invested. Because a few days ago I was investigating Michael Saylor holdings. He has been buying Bitcoin regularly since about 2020. If his buying time is gapped for many days, but that is consistent. He does not even calculate the price low or high and DCA Bitcoin. He also bought Bitcoin when it was around the all-time high, even after the price dropped, he is doing as before. This is because of his long-term mindset. Big investors and institutions like them DCA with few months gaps and on a large scale. And their holding mindset is relatively long-term. Although it is not right to compare them with ordinary people like us, one thing really surprises me that where many ordinary people like us are still skeptical about Bitcoin, where there is a fear of investing even with a small amount of money, there are such big investors investing with billions of dollars, although they are doing it according to their ability. That means at least it is understood that they are holding BTC when they are investing in it, except for big sectors like Gold, Land or other Technology, so Bitcoin definitely has the potential to give good profits in the long term. I am not saying it will surely give profit but possibility is high.

He’s right that profit matters, but the issue is timing and mindset. A disciplined investor doesn’t put profit at the front early  he focuses on building his position first. And once he reaches his accumulation goal or solid accumulation level, then profit taking can be part of the plan without disrupting growth.

On DCA, it’s not just for beginners that use  many investors uses it because it enforces consistency and removes emotion. It’s  a tool for steady accumulation, regardless of experience. In the end the solution is clear accumulate first with discipline, then think about profit not the other way around.

[B-BossMan]

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I like the point you made about how strategy can change over time, in the beginning a person might feel far from their target  and then because of that, they might decide to buy aggressively. But after spending years accumulating through different market cycles, they may eventually reach a stage where they feel more comfortable with the size of their holdings and become less aggressive. And the funny thing is that there’s rarely a clear moment where someone says “Okay, this is enough Bitcoin forever.” As a person’s income grows, their responsibilities begin to change, and so does their conviction too, so now they keep reassessing what “enough” even means for them.

I think that people can get to the point of having enough or more than enough bitcoin, yet of course, getting to such a status remains a combination of how much value is put in, and also how the bitcoin price performs during the period that the money was put in and also at later points in time.

There can also be some miscalculations and changes of living standard targets, as you mentioned, yet I still, in the past, I have given some examples of guys who have accumulated bitcoin for several years, especially guys who might have had started accumulating more than 10 years ago and fairly aggressively, to show that they could have had unequivocally and unambiguously reached overaccumulation status.

Surely how a person manages reaching overaccumulation status can also be a factor, and I frequently suggest that it makes a lot of sense that a guy would go through his BTC accumulation phase first, and then likely go through a maintenance phase in which there still might be questions about whether or not he has enough bitcoin and also some preferences, perhaps of buying bitcoin on the dip. Then, I think that once a person gets into his liquidation phase, it becomes  optional about whether to buy back any bitcoin, and so there is absolutely no need to buy back any bitcoin.. .. and maybe it is difficult to describe such a stage, yet it seems to me that guys can both assess the getting to such a stage and also get to such a stage and start to understand and appreciate that they have enough or more than enough BTC, so they really don't need to buy back any bitcoin.

Nice explanation here, and I would gently conclude all these as stages as Bitcoin management phases. Evrty bitcoin investors or holder will likely go through these stages differently over time depending on thoer goals, thier financial stability and thier own level of bitcoin accumulation.  That's why it's a nice ideas that people should always focus on building up thier bitcoin holding first once the discretionary income is ready, because the bitcoin accumulation phase is actually a basic or foundation of everything in bitcoin investment, so at this particular stage, consistency matters more than ecmven trying to target the perfect time in the market. It's true that once some investors has accumulated a solid amount of bitcoin, thier mindset gradually changes into maintenance like the aggressive buying may reduces your some certain percentage, and it becomes more preserving and managing holdings wisely instead of constantly chasing more accumulation.

However, there's  are certain stage where an investor actually feels financially secure based on the amounts of bitcoin they hold over time , so at times selling some Bitcoin may be the only optional depending on the person's needs, and once they sell thier bitcoin they don't have to feel obligated to buy it back, it's optional not required. Moreover,  i must agree that, with time and experiences people can recognize when they have reached a stage where continuous buybacks are no longer necessary anymore.

[Chronic Gambler9]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

[Princess Leah]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

If investors focus their attention on profits it could ruin their accumulation journey cause they may tend to get emotional when volatility occur, volatility have it's on way of putting investors to test in the sense that if you're not a determined investor you could deviate from the goal, which is why investors shouldn't bother about profits but focused on accumulation.

 Especially new investors cause they're still new in accumulation and haven't even gone halfway to their target so profits shouldn't be what theu should be worried about except maybe they're trader in guise as investors cause lately I've discovered that many so called investors deviate along the line and sell off too early like traders do.

[UpTober]

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I like the point you made about how strategy can change over time, in the beginning a person might feel far from their target  and then because of that, they might decide to buy aggressively. But after spending years accumulating through different market cycles, they may eventually reach a stage where they feel more comfortable with the size of their holdings and become less aggressive. And the funny thing is that there’s rarely a clear moment where someone says “Okay, this is enough Bitcoin forever.” As a person’s income grows, their responsibilities begin to change, and so does their conviction too, so now they keep reassessing what “enough” even means for them.

I think that people can get to the point of having enough or more than enough bitcoin, yet of course, getting to such a status remains a combination of how much value is put in, and also how the bitcoin price performs during the period that the money was put in and also at later points in time.

There can also be some miscalculations and changes of living standard targets, as you mentioned, yet I still, in the past, I have given some examples of guys who have accumulated bitcoin for several years, especially guys who might have had started accumulating more than 10 years ago and fairly aggressively, to show that they could have had unequivocally and unambiguously reached overaccumulation status.

I completely agree with your comment that for investors to reach this stage of "sufficient Bitcoin deposit", not only time is the main issue but over time these things are important whether the investor is investing continuously or how much the investor is investing or along with these for how long the investor has held his investment and how much the value of Bitcoin has increased during this time.

Many times investors are seen commenting that they are investing continuously with small amounts of money i.e. they are reducing the amount of money they are investing but if they can continue that amount of money continuously for a long time i.e. up to eight or 10 years then they themselves will not be able to imagine how much their total investment will be at the end of this specific time.

Your comment about the quality of life is also important because with the change of time, people's families grow and people's expenses increase, so considering the most important things, what is a big thing for one person may be a small amount for another.

The example you have given here can be a good lesson for beginners. 
Bitcoin should not be seen as a quick fix but rather as a long-term financial asset. We should look at those investors who have continued to invest in Bitcoin during times when the market has disappointed investors and when most people have criticized the market. If we look at those investors today, we will see that they are the most successful investors in Bitcoin.

Surely how a person manages reaching overaccumulation status can also be a factor, and I frequently suggest that it makes a lot of sense that a guy would go through his BTC accumulation phase first, and then likely go through a maintenance phase in which there still might be questions about whether or not he has enough bitcoin and also some preferences, perhaps of buying bitcoin on the dip. Then, I think that once a person gets into his liquidation phase, it becomes  optional about whether to buy back any bitcoin, and so there is absolutely no need to buy back any bitcoin.. .. and maybe it is difficult to describe such a stage, yet it seems to me that guys can both assess the getting to such a stage and also get to such a stage and start to understand and appreciate that they have enough or more than enough BTC, so they really don't need to buy back any bitcoin.

If you need an example, let me know, and I can flesh this out a bit better, if you think that getting to overaccumulation status and not needing to buy more bitcoin is not quite making sense for you.

In most cases, people may see that investors are investing and they are continuously increasing their investment, but beyond that, there are other concerns and the important thing is how investors actually think about this issue after accumulating a large amount of Bitcoin.
Your comment seems more important to me than anything else that 'when an investor's investment amount reaches more than a sufficient amount, the investor's investment is not mandatory to continue again, but it completely depends on his own will'.
Yes, in a new situation, investors have such an objective that they only have to maintain the continuity of investment and try to continue it for a long time, so it is normal for newbies not to understand this issue. I personally think that another important point that has come up in your discussion is the importance of long-term investment. Those who are thinking about the future and are currently investing little by little are not just investing, but they are creating a good financial support for the future.

[Sally9256]

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

I think since we are investing with a long term approach we shouldn't be bothered about the profit whether it's the first or not. Since we don't even know how Bitcoin will perform in future so why should we even be worried about something we don't know or something we have no control over. Instead of worrying about profit that we are not sure will happen I think it's best we channel our energy into something we have power to influence something we can control which is having a good sustainable and consistent investment habit.

In the long run consistency and patience  are what truly matters so there's no point stressing ourselves over profit that is not guaranteed, we should let profit come naturally and not make it our motive for investing.

[Just Say]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

Exactly, as an investor, our first objective to start investing in Bitcoin should be to build a future centered on BTC, in simple words, which is called saving BTC for the future, that is, reaching the level of "accumulating a sufficient amount of Bitcoin". You are right that profit is also an objective in Bitcoin investment but it's correct if one is obsessed with the past with profit from the very beginning, he will be known as a speculator because we all think they should reveal an inherent quality that daily or hourly fluctuations in the market can make them sell Bitcoin frequently to profit from it. So I think that before investing in Bitcoin and deviating from the goal midway like some so-called investors, just some basic research is needed, which will change his strong belief in the investment and allow him to constantly reassess the potential of Bitcoin.

[Brizi5000]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

Exactly, as an investor, our first objective to start investing in Bitcoin should be to build a future centered on BTC, in simple words, which is called saving BTC for the future, that is, reaching the level of "accumulating a sufficient amount of Bitcoin". You are right that profit is also an objective in Bitcoin investment but it's correct if one is obsessed with the past with profit from the very beginning, he will be known as a speculator because we all think they should reveal an inherent quality that daily or hourly fluctuations in the market can make them sell Bitcoin frequently to profit from it. So I think that before investing in Bitcoin and deviating from the goal midway like some so-called investors, just some basic research is needed, which will change his strong belief in the investment and allow him to constantly reassess the potential of Bitcoin.

it is better for them to start accumulating bitcoin first once their discretionary income is ready because if you say a basic research first they might end up taking too long before they start the investment as they  may not still be satisfied with what you term as basic research and they might move from just a basic research to wanting to research to know everything which at the end will take them years trying to do the research and eventually end up not getting started or probably missing out on several buying opportunities which they could have used those periods of making the research to accumulate some decent amount of bitcoin to their portfolio and hold. a bitcoin investor only needs to check if he has a discretionary income to use and get started in accumulating and investing in bitcoin. being able to figure out a discretionary income is enough for them to get started and not wasting time doing more research as they can always learn more along the line from their experiences while ongoingly accumulating bitcoin and hold for their long term purpose

[cxtreenal]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

The long term objective of Bitcoin is to build a holding. Your personal objective is to make a profit through capital. In fact if you expect to get a good job you have to skill in that job before you can expect to get a good job. Some people can only expect to get a good job by developing themselves through higher and institutional practice. If you do not gain skill you are unlikely to get a job.

Trading is a skill that has to be learned through higher practice and experience and sometimes has to be done at a loss and take risks. Long term Bitcoin investment is better than risky trading. Your primary objective will be to accumulate Bitcoin and its duration should be 4-10 years. Expect to get a profit at the time when the Bitcoin holding reaches maturity or goes over accumulation stage.

[Livingleged]

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I like the point you made about how strategy can change over time, in the beginning a person might feel far from their target  and then because of that, they might decide to buy aggressively. But after spending years accumulating through different market cycles, they may eventually reach a stage where they feel more comfortable with the size of their holdings and become less aggressive. And the funny thing is that there’s rarely a clear moment where someone says “Okay, this is enough Bitcoin forever.” As a person’s income grows, their responsibilities begin to change, and so does their conviction too, so now they keep reassessing what “enough” even means for them.

I think that people can get to the point of having enough or more than enough bitcoin, yet of course, getting to such a status remains a combination of how much value is put in, and also how the bitcoin price performs during the period that the money was put in and also at later points in time.

Honestly the question about when is it enough as to stop accumulating has not been really answered. by my understanding bitcoin accumulation is just relatively proportionally to you income but we can’t say it’s enough because the standards keeps increasing, target change over time. those who had acquired bitcoin some years  back never stop buying, what I think about bitcoin is that there is no such time when we can say it’s enough and I am not acquiring again. what one needs to do is to make use of the opportunity that presents it self to. also take time to spend part of your profit because the end goal is to have a good life. And keep raising the bar.

[Rockson1]

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

Every investment you said, it means bitcon is among right, I do not know if you have heard about people investing for value in Bitcoin? May be you have heard that is a good of wealth, so what if there investors that are acumulating Bitcoin because they understand that Bitcoin is a good store of wealth and maybe because of how inflationary our fiat system is, they decide to invest in Bitcoin to avoid the effect of inflation to the value of their money in the future, you made sound as if it is just about the profit and nothing more, for every Bitcoin investor, the best we can do for ourselves if have a futuristic mindset, it shouldn't always be the profit but the value we will arrived at in the future, personally I do not like talking about profit and as a newbie that you are, you should refrain from it and concentrate mainly on your Bitcoin acumulation to avoid having a different thought that may not align with your set goals.

[Cyber_warrior]

Honestly the question about when is it enough as to stop accumulating has not been really answered. by my understanding bitcoin accumulation is just relatively proportionally to you income but we can’t say it’s enough because the standards keeps increasing, target change over time. those who had acquired bitcoin some years  back never stop buying, what I think about bitcoin is that there is no such time when we can say it’s enough and I am not acquiring again. what one needs to do is to make use of the opportunity that presents it self to. also take time to spend part of your profit because the end goal is to have a good life. And keep raising the bar.

A lot of things have been addressed here and maybe you need to read through some pages back to understand certain things. Of course there's an over accumulation point but your explanation clearly states you might end up taking profits with time which could lead you into traders mindset. Taking profits is wrong and it's the mindset of traders so taking the time to spend part of your profit is wrong in investing. Even when a person has reached over accumulation point it's not ideal to sell your Bitcoin holdings recklessly as you mentioned to having a good life. Your Bitcoin should not be in anyway mismanaged just because you have enough Bitcoins so selling to start buying all over again is wrong.

Once a over accumulation is reach what follows is maintenance phase. This is when you protect your holdings and try to maintain a stable portfolio so you don't lose what you have already built because you want to live a good life.

[Big Dirams]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

Profits might be the motive of investment but when it comes to bitcoin such mindset shouldn’t be used to approach bitcoin investment because at the long run the mindset is just traders mindset. Let not see profits as what brought us into bitcoin investment let see our future with bitcoin holding, let have plans with bitcoin for future securing and not profits taken.
 Prioritizing profits during our bitcoin investment won’t give us positive future benefits, long term holding is what can give us that value. Let not even see profits taken as a motive at all, have the discipline of accumulating for future and keep holding.

[Sobz]

He’s right that profit matters, but the issue is timing and mindset. A disciplined investor doesn’t put profit at the front early  he focuses on building his position first. And once he reaches his accumulation goal or solid accumulation level, then profit taking can be part of the plan without disrupting growth.

On DCA, it’s not just for beginners that use  many investors uses it because it enforces consistency and removes emotion. It’s  a tool for steady accumulation, regardless of experience. In the end the solution is clear accumulate first with discipline, then think about profit not the other way around.

When we talk about long-term investment in Bitcoin, some people think it is just an investment for a few years to take profit. When we discuss long-term investment in Bitcoin, it is referred to as an investment for which you don't have any plan to make a profit in just a few years. Long-term investment means continuous hodling and accumulating Bitcoin.

The main reason for such an investment is not just to anticipate and make a profit after some time; it is all about the future. Hodling Bitcoin and buying more Bitcoin is always preached. Like the Bitcoin maximalists, they are not buying Bitcoin to hodl for just a few years; they are hodling as if it is a lifetime commitment, and this is the main idea.

[Merit.s]

Honestly the question about when is it enough as to stop accumulating has not been really answered. by my understanding bitcoin accumulation is just relatively proportionally to you income but we can’t say it’s enough because the standards keeps increasing, target change over time. those who had acquired bitcoin some years  back never stop buying, what I think about bitcoin is that there is no such time when we can say it’s enough and I am not acquiring again. what one needs to do is to make use of the opportunity that presents it self to. also take time to spend part of your profit because the end goal is to have a good life. And keep raising the bar.

You need to start from somewhere and end at somewhere. Anyone that's accumulating bitcoin should have a bitcoin target that he plans to accumulate overtime so that, he can stay focused on that and not distract himself about profit because your profit isn't running, the more you leave it for a long time the more it compounds.

If you don't have a bitcoin target, you wouldn't know when you have gotten enough bitcoin and when you have gotten to over accumulation stage. Before, you know it, you will think that you have accumulated enough bitcoin for yourself and start selling too many bitcoin too soon when it isn't even time for you to start taking profits.

Have a bitcoin target, keep your bitcoin accumulation ongoing till you have reached your bitcoin target and from there to your over accumulation stage. You don't need to even sell carelessly, you have to use the sustainable withdrawal method which you are to take profits either at a particular time or at a particular price so that, you bitcoin stash will continue generating profits overtime.

I believe that a time will come when you can no longer work due to old age, you wouldn't have any income that you can use to accumulate bitcoin because you will need your pension to survive.

If you don't have a target and want to just buy and sell whenever, you like, and buy again, you are a trader and not a long term investor and in future, you will be left with very little bitcoin in your possession.

[New Judgement]

You are right, no investor wants it investment to fail but when it comes to bitcoin investment it differs from other investment, it sole aim it to help secure your future, to help you have that guarantee that in the future you have something to lean on.

We have seen a lot of traders who called themselves investors coming with that mindset to make quick cash over it and at the end these set of people are the ones who will come out tomorrow and say bitcoin investment is a gamble.

Having that mindset of a trader will only gives you wrong impression about bitcoin as a whole.

There you go again, you are making it sound like investing in Bitcoin gives guarantee of of success or profits in the future, there is no guarantee of profit or success in Bitcoin and just the as in every other kind of investments, we can say that bitcoin investment has a higher chances of rewarding those who bought and has been patient to hold for the long term but making it look as if there is guarantee of future rewards can be misleading and this impression has been corrected over time.

You are right, Bitcoin Investment is not guarantee but as someone with a long term mindset and as someone with a target and a goal to achieve, you don't have to be pointing at the fact that Bitcoin investment is not guarantee. Of course we know it is not guarantee before we started accumulating it so emphasizing on it can actually distract some folks.

No matter how the truth makes some people feel uncomfortable, the truth has to be told at all times. If the truth makes some person uncomfortable, will lies comfort them? Anyone who’s been distracted because they are being told what’s obtainable has not started. It is better people know what they are getting into from the beginning, than being deceived and the truth hidden from them simply because you don’t want them to be distracted.

However, it was because of the uncertainty of it that the saying " invest with what you can afford to lose" came into play and this we can afford to lose is our discretionary income. I believe Bitcoin won't crash anytime soon so that's why I'm certain I will make out something reasonable from it in the long term.

It’s true bitcoin won’t crash (but we should be open to anything) because we don’t know what the future holds. We can only invest and hope that it turn out good for us in the future, because no one can tell for certainty the degree of success they will get from bitcoin investment in the future because nothing is guaranteed. We can only be hopeful that things go the way we are speculating.

[Charcol]

Honestly speaking, I think the best way to focus on investing in bitcoin is just forgetting about the profit aspect for one or two circle depending on how you’re comfortable with your plans of investing in bitcoin and for how long your investment plan is, because profits is not a guarantee when it comes to investing in bitcoin, but for newbies who doesn’t understand that profits isn’t a guarantee should also learn to focus more on investment in bitcoin, by accumulating bitcoin on a weekly basis or monthly basis that always gives them a chance and opportunity when it comes to having profits in bitcoin investors, people who are always profits oriented are traders who are more interested in quick and sudden profits.

For every investment profit is always a motive, it not like bitcoin is saying otherwise but all it saying is that since bitcoin is volatile in Nature, making profit over it should be our second motive when investing in it, our first motive should be having a future with bitcoin in it, let just say it like saving for your future. Traders finds this future thing very difficult to accept and that why most of them will say they are investing to make profit.

We cannot completely rule out the possibility of profit in Bitcoin. Because the possibility of Bitcoin's price increasing in the long term is quite high. And this possibility encourages many to save Bitcoin. But if a new or savings investor puts profit too much in the foreground and starts calculating profit from the savings stage, he can quickly deviate from his own main goal. That is why I think the first thing to do in Bitcoin investment should be to create your own position. Yes, profit can come later. But if you make profit the main goal in the beginning, many people may sell after seeing price fluctuations, try to buy again at a lower price, and get into the trap of looking for quick results. And then you will see that it will become trading instead of saving.