what proof must one have to identify himself as Nakamoto Satoshi?

[Akash1243]

We always wonder who the real master mind behind the name of Nakamoto Satoshi the creator of bitcoin is.But what exactly would make you believe or convince you that "this" person is Satoshi if he/she ever decided to reveal himself.
There might be infinite wannabes and glory hunters wanting to rise to fame ,given the real Satoshi is one among them how would you go on about finding the right person.

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[KaliLinux]

We always wonder who the real master mind behind the name of Nakamoto Satoshi the creator of bitcoin is.But what exactly would make you believe or convince you that "this" person is Satoshi if he/she ever decided to reveal himself.
There might be infinite wannabes and glory hunters wanting to rise to fame ,given the real Satoshi is one among them how would you go on about finding the right person.

For one, if the person can continue on the account satoshi started of with here in the forum, I believe that will be one proof even though maybe that could be hacked and to me, I don't really see the need for Satoshi to reveal himself or herself cos the person could easily be a female as well, and yet we have all these men claiming to be satoshi. If (s)he did not reveal themself then why would they want to do so now? I really don't care but I give thanks to Satoshi for finding Bitcoin whoever (s)he is.  

[mocacinno]

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For one, if the person can continue on the account satoshi started of with here in the forum, I believe that will be one proof even though maybe that could be hacked and to me, I don't really see the need for Satoshi to reveal himself or herself cos the person could easily be a female as well, and yet we have all these men claiming to be satoshi. If (s)he did not reveal themself then why would they want to do so now? I really don't care but I give thanks to Satoshi for finding Bitcoin whoever (s)he is.  

Satoshi's email was hacked, his account is locked and even if it wasn't, odds are that he wouldn't know his password anyways... Since his posts were migrated from a different platform to bitcointalk.org.

If he really wanted to prove he is satoshi, he can move funds from a couple of the earliest block's block reward, or he can sign a message... That would conclusively prove it.

[jackg]

For one, if the person can continue on the account satoshi started of with here in the forum, I believe that will be one proof even though maybe that could be hacked

That account is locked by Theymos, this kinda raises the interesting question though of whether there would be something to persuade him to unlock it (for the real satoshi - or a good masquerader - if they return).


There will always be doubters also even if the real satoshi does come forward one day and even if the real satoshi does come forward, they shouldn't be given too much weighting in discussions as they might hurt the growth of the currency (there were lots of people complaining about the segwit forks not being "satoshis bitcoin" - even before that Australian claimed to be satoshi).

[Bttzed03]

The most popular wannabe couldn't sign a message from addresses he claims to be his (as Satoshi) that's why he just resorts to lawsuits and more lies.

[Henrobakkara]

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For one, if the person can continue on the account satoshi started of with here in the forum, I believe that will be one proof even though maybe that could be hacked and to me, I don't really see the need for Satoshi to reveal himself or herself cos the person could easily be a female as well, and yet we have all these men claiming to be satoshi. If (s)he did not reveal themself then why would they want to do so now? I really don't care but I give thanks to Satoshi for finding Bitcoin whoever (s)he is.  

Satoshi's email was hacked, his account is locked and even if it wasn't, odds are that he wouldn't know his password anyways... Since his posts were migrated from a different platform to bitcointalk.org.

If he really wanted to prove he is satoshi, he can move funds from a couple of the earliest block's block reward, or he can sign a message... That would conclusively prove it.

Great, that means at the end of the day there must be a way that these guys can prove that they are the real satoshi which is all that is required so we don't want people coming up to claim to be satoshi if they cannot provide a single prove that they have access to any of what you have mentioned.

[pooya87]

Attempting to prove identity is itself shady to me.
Because why did Satoshi go away in first place to want to come back now and need to prove his (her, their) identity. And why prove his identity in first place? If he wanted to do anything like contribute to Bitcoin he could do that under any identity he wanted. Maybe he is already creating pull requests and reviewing changes in Bitcoin!
Only those who are set to gain something would want to prove something. There is nothing to be gained for Satoshi to prove his identity. Only losses, loss of privacy, maybe even security as his life may be in danger, etc.

[Ararbermas]

We always wonder who the real master mind behind the name of Nakamoto Satoshi the creator of bitcoin is.But what exactly would make you believe or convince you that "this" person is Satoshi if he/she ever decided to reveal himself.
There might be infinite wannabes and glory hunters wanting to rise to fame ,given the real Satoshi is one among them how would you go on about finding the right person.

its hard to tell nowadays because it's already late and there's a bunch of frauds spreading in the internet and probably even the real nakamoto came back and claim what other people saying no one will gonna believe in him also unless if he had strong proof such from the beginning wherein bitcoin isn't not yet successful because for sure no one can say it's not legit.

[dothebeats]

Move funds from earliest known blocks to another, newly-generated address or any other address. That's the simplest and easiest way. Signed message also works, but CSW and co found some loopholes which makes their signed message appear legitimate.

Then again, the real satoshi would probably not try to make his/her identity known, and would just stick hiding and keeping a low profile.

[Wind_FURY]

Move funds from earliest known blocks to another, newly-generated address or any other address. That's the simplest and easiest way. Signed message also works, but CSW and co found some loopholes which makes their signed message appear legitimate.

Then again, the real satoshi would probably not try to make his/her identity known, and would just stick hiding and keeping a low profile.

He did extra steps to hide his real identity to remain anonymous. Tin-foil hats on, but I believe he changed his coding style to write Bitcoin, used Windows instead of Unix, or a Unix-like operating system, and he also probably changed his posting style in the forum.

[kryptqnick]

If he really wanted to prove he is satoshi, he can move funds from a couple of the earliest block's block reward, or he can sign a message... That would conclusively prove it.

I believe that's pretty much the only conclusive way to prove it, and yet I believe that even in this case some people will be left unconvinced, yelling that it's simply someone who got access to Satoshi's coins (perhaps by stealing it from the real Satoshi personally). But still, given that it's Satoshi rather than a newbie we're talking about, I don't think it's likely that Satoshi lost access to their coins. However, since it's hypothetically possible and something that could happen to anyone, there are other ways that wouldn't prove that it's Satoshi but could provide some evidence. That could be, for instance, providing an early draft of the whitepaper with an early date being proven.

[pooya87]

If he really wanted to prove he is satoshi, he can move funds from a couple of the earliest block's block reward, or he can sign a message... That would conclusively prove it.

I believe that's pretty much the only conclusive way to prove it,

Considering the fact that we don't have any proof of which coins belong to Satoshi, this is not a solid proof either. Many of the early mined coins belong to people other than Satoshi! The only 100% sure coin that belongs to Satoshi is the Genesis block reward which is unspendable

[Reatim]

We always wonder who the real master mind behind the name of Nakamoto Satoshi the creator of bitcoin is.But what exactly would make you believe or convince you that "this" person is Satoshi if he/she ever decided to reveal himself.
There might be infinite wannabes and glory hunters wanting to rise to fame ,given the real Satoshi is one among them how would you go on about finding the right person.

There is nothing that makes it all right proving Him as Satoshi if he Can Sign a Message and move the funds (that 1 million bitcoin or less depend on his interest) for this maybe the whole crypto community will listen and believe it was Him, though i doubt this will ever happen in front of everyone , if Satoshi decide to move the funds he will do this silently and no one will ever know (of course we can follow the transactions) .

[noormcs5]

We always wonder who the real master mind behind the name of Nakamoto Satoshi the creator of bitcoin is.But what exactly would make you believe or convince you that "this" person is Satoshi if he/she ever decided to reveal himself.
There might be infinite wannabes and glory hunters wanting to rise to fame ,given the real Satoshi is one among them how would you go on about finding the right person.

So many people including Craight White have falsely claimed to be Nakamoto Satoshi. Now the situation is that if the real satoshi come in the public and reveals his identity, it will be hard to believe.
There is no point to hide your identity and reveal it when no one is willing to believe you.

[tranthidung]

Bitcoin gives you way to sign message from your private key. Why not think of it first?  

Two main ways to prove one is real Satoshi Nakamoto

• Private key. Like what mentioned in this article Who Wants To Claim $2.5 billion ... Just Show Us Your Private Key ... Mr Satoshi Nakamoto
• PGP key - Read more in Why is Satoshi Nakamoto's PGP Key not currently on bitcoin.org ?

[BlackHatCoiner]

And as time goes on, the proof from the signature becomes less significant. There'll definitely be a time in the future when someone finds the private key of the genesis' public key[1]. This won't make them Satoshi. Proof of ownership isn't proof of identity either way. It'll be really vague if a valid signed message appeared out of nowhere and I wouldn't hold my breath that they're Satoshi.


[1] 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f

[o_e_l_e_o]

That would conclusively prove it.

I don't think it would, as I've discussed in other threads previously. It would prove ownership of the private keys, but it would not prove identity. It is an important and necessary first step towards proving identity, and without it anyone claiming to be Satoshi can be ignored, but on its own it is not enough.

That account is locked by Theymos, this kinda raises the interesting question though of whether there would be something to persuade him to unlock it (for the real satoshi - or a good masquerader - if they return).

theymos previously said this about it:

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

That was over 8 years ago, though. Perhaps his opinion has changed and he would require more proof than a PGP signature.

Signed message also works, but CSW and co found some loopholes which makes their signed message appear legitimate.

There are no loopholes. They performed parlor tricks, including on some people who really should have known better. Nothing CSW has presented has ever come close to being considered legitimate.

[Little Mouse]

I was reading all the Satoshi Nakamoto related articles for the last few weeks because I'm going to compile an article in my local language so that people can know the truth.
I don’t think Satoshi can have his identity proved without signing a message from his known address and a PGP signature. But I'm sure that's not going to happen ever because satoshi will not appear.

Since his posts were migrated from a different platform to bitcointalk.org.

What does that mean? He himself has posted some old post from the previous Forum in this forum. So?

[Wind_FURY]

And as time goes on, the proof from the signature becomes less significant. There'll definitely be a time in the future when someone finds the private key of the genesis' public key[1]. This won't make them Satoshi. Proof of ownership isn't proof of identity either way. It'll be really vague if a valid signed message appeared out of nowhere and I wouldn't hold my breath that they're Satoshi.


[1] 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f

That’s a very good point! Because what if Hal Finney was the real Satoshi, and what if he gave all his private keys to his son/daughter/wife as an inheritance?

I believe it must be time to accept that Satoshi should be “dead” to the community, although should also be honored for opening the Pandora’s Box.

[Easteregg69]

An ego would do for a start. Proof comes with building it. Knowing every detail. Be able to move every brick in the mouse around even after it has been build. And to some extend leave it like it has always been like that.