Btc hodlers vs short time traders

[Leviathan.007]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

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[syedzakir]

It is a matter of one's preference.
Some people want to get profit instantly on daily basis and they actually know how to trade so they spend more time on trading and earning profit side by side.
While some people who value their time and don't even know much about trading so they invest in different coins and try to hold it for a long time period. These are the ones who face loss in rare cases. Most of the times they are in profit.

[Kimonoe]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

but for those who have short term trading skills, of course they can also enjoy life by trading and always thinking, especially if they have enough time, or even full day traders, of course they will enjoy the journey, because it is a hobby, can experience trading not a burden. Even holders can sometimes feel stressed when their assets start to drop by up to 50%.

[yhiaali3]

For long-term investments, the dca buying strategy is definitely the best, it does not matter what the price of bitcoin is at the moment because you will certainly be the winner in the long term because with a little historical comparison you will find that bitcoin always has an upward trend, of course who buys in this way must That they have reserve money that can be dispensed for a long time because this may take many years and the capital will be frozen during all this long period.

[KaliLinux]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

If you really want to invest in Bitcoin then you have to know that DCA is the best method for it plus if you have the resources for it. People that just have some lost cash to throw into Bitcoin and rive the wave when there is a Bull market ain't really investors but just trying to catch the opportunity to make the gains at that time but true investors think differently.

[fiulpro]

I don't have much to invest therefore I generally hold my bitcoins, whatever extra money I save, then take it out every once in a while to pay for basic amenities. Holder and traders are two opposite sides. Generally the traders are going all in a risky platform and at the end they might end up either making a lot of money or loosing a lot. Their income is active and it involves getting aquatinted with the market every single second, it's a hard job and one needs experience, there are sites online that can help you predict the price but I highly doubt their authenticity, but traders can study the graph and sometimes predict, plus you gotta be huge on the news as well, all the FUD's, the whale alerts etc.. on the other hand a Holder is a person who shuts down looking at their wallets when the price is declining and just hope for the best, the passive income is quite impressive if one has the ability to invest a certain amount and hold for a while.

[mm2543363580]

According to https://dcabtc.com/ , if somebody has bought bitcoin 10$ per day for last three years then right now he has invested 10960$ in bitcoin and has 105,858,000 satoshis in his portfolio that values 62269$, a percentage change of 468$. This clearly gives how different dca is from short term trading.

[batang_bitcoin]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

most traders want to accumulate too. they jsut have different strategies to accumulate long term.

DCA is not about having patience. its just having a regular payment plan, almost on auto pilot. where you just set it and forget it. much like setting up paying into a savings account or a pension plan. it just moves money once a month (and autobuys at the price at deposit). its not some tricky thing or some complex thing that requires will-power and restraint.

the issue with DCA is the lack of control of the price, because its auto pilot to just buy when you deposit, you could end up buying at the ATH for the month, missing loads of oppertunities to have bough cheaper

traders can take better oppertunities and.. if they dont buy in during the first 27 days of the month cheaper. they still can spill their load on day 28 and buy at the "whatever" price. because thats the flaw in DCA. the "buy at whatever"/just buy regular theory

so if you want to maximise your potential. deposit at start of month. and set it to buy at end of the month if funds havnt already bought during the month. because buying coins each month still conforms to DCA because there is no rule that makes it a crime to not buy on the day of deposit. then with more control over oppertunities during a month, you have time..  rather then the theory of "just buy at deposit, dont care about price"

that way you have all that time in between to make better decisions.. and if still cant decide, oh well DCA it on day 28th day. and repeat each month. to still be DCA

That issue isn't really that big for DCA. It's part of it and as you've planned to keep it, you should anticipate that the prices would be changing from time to time since this market is truly volatile.
That strategizing of when to buy but still remains as DCA, is actually a good plan. Whichever suits your buying power and you're confident with it, just choose and do when you think is the best time.

[dezoel]

I do not really think that it matters what kind of investor or trader you are, I believe that anyone can be successful in the market. Mainly what I do is long term investment, but I have friends who are just short term traders and they are always making good amount of money as well.

So, I wouldn’t say that it matters what exactly you are into, what matters the most is that  you are able to do what you are doing the right way, then you’re going to be successful in the market. Whatever it is that you choose to do, you have to be ready to dedicate your time and have patience, and make sure that you learn it properly before you start. That way you will be more likely to be successful in the market. We all can’t be doing the same thing and you know that.

[carrigan]

Hodlers and traders are equally profitable, usually those who tend to want to make a profit quickly will choose to trade short term. Especially if they often have urgent needs, this also encourages someone to prefer short-term trading. Therefore, both traders and traders are equally profitable in the hands of the right people or according to existing needs.

[virasog]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Holding and DCA is only applicable in spot trading but what about those people who are doing future's trading ?

You can do dollar cost averaging if you are doing trading in the Spot market. Most of the people are doing trading in future's market and it is not advisable to dollar cost average in that market.

[Rufsilf]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

Yeah, I'm with you mate. Hodlers may seem to benefit in either ways especially the situation we are now in and it is much more safe because bitcoin hodlers aren't affected when the market is being bullish or any dips at all. Instead, in every correction and recovery they're always in the 1st row to benefit it.
Unlike short traders, they always depend on every situation wether it's good or bad because that's the way how they benefit from it, though it's sometimes be more profitable than hodlers but the stress and pressure is always there when you're a trader and it's much more riskier.

[Henrobakkara]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Yeah, I hear you, but this might not work for those that don't have monthly or weekly paycheck. You can consistently DCA when you know that pay is coming in regularly during that time of the week/Month and you can set aside a % for your DCA. One time Buy when you have the opportunity isn't that bad as well however, timing matters in investment so as to be able to leverage on the price but the overall aim is to HODL whether you DCA or you buy in one lump.

[Mauser]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I fully agree with you, the investors who bought over the last few years regularly bitcoins and held them made the most return. Sure when you see the price chart and you would have always bought below 35,000 USD and sold above 60,000  would have made a much higher return. But how do you know the levels before hand? We can't. After the rally at the start of the year I told myself if BTC ever drops below 20,000 USD again I would sell all my stocks and investment funds and would buy bitcoins. Unfortunately it didn't drop so low. Just holding is the best approach in my opinion.

[barabarian1]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

agree, they have different method and task to be completed. holder just stay calm with their coin, wait until their the price reach what they want. trader cant be calm like holder, they always monitoring every coin move, like 'where i can take my profit'.
they all have different value, and method.

[CryptocurencyKing]

I don't seem to agree more that hodlers benefit more than traders. For me, its a matter of what your better at and really find to be convenient for you.

Yeah, hodling is about a lot of patience but then, a trader ain't about the patience but, to make some bucks out of every move or opportunity in the market. Hence, timing is of the essence, a timing a hodler is accorded the luxury.

Given the same amount of coins to both a hodler and a trader, a trader has the opportunity of making the most of it if experienced enough to trade the market with minimal loses becuase, loses do come around. A hodler might not go through any of them risk of loose few Sats but, he's only element is time. A time both parties have but, the trader takes the risk to increase hodlings by trading.

[bitzizzix]

There are only two ways to earn a decent profit, HODL (easy) and Trading (hard way).
And it doesn't matter which one you choose, it's important that you know the basics well and understand the risks.
Becoming a holder is the best and safe way and has a small risk although in my opinion there is no risk of loss, I mean as long as the price is still not satisfactory or it goes down it doesn't matter because as long as the price has not reached the desired target, the holder will continue to hold it even if they have to wait years.
the risk of becoming a holder is not loss but time and strong patience.
Becoming a profitable trade takes a long time to master because trading is not an easy job and you also have to do it full time and also risk losing if it's not right and profit depends on your capital.

[irsykes]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

[taufik123]

holders or scalpers will both benefit if they know how to use the method. Holders with a DCA system may benefit from using capital gradually to buy at deep prices.
For scalping, it can also be profitable by making fast trades, but also with large capital so that the profits are more and each time the order gets maximum results.
Each method will have advantages and disadvantages of each, so it depends on how it is used and the suitability of the method.

[Mamun74]

I think,, Holders and Short traders will both benefit from it if they know proper knowledge and skill and how to use method. Holders and traders both can get profit but both are different method. I think bitcoin holders will get good profit From his holding BTC.Coz BTC is most valuable coin in The narket.I hope bitcoin price Will be more increase in 2022.