Btc hodlers vs short time traders

[Voxo2222]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

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[franky1]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

[Voxo2222]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change

Dca without game play buy the dip comined together gives best results not just dca

[kro55]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

[Sanitough]

Definitely, it depends on what method you are comfortable with using.

Me, I go for both, long term and short term are both profitable as long as you know the right timing especially on buying. if you were able to buy cheap bitcoin especially at the dip, you will find no problem holding it as in long run after the market struggles, a new bull run will come that will break the ATH.

Just follow the market trends and everything would be easy.

[Ultegra134]

Depends on your preference. There a lot of things to go wrong when you're trading, it solely depends on your actions, your experience, psychology etc. Some people get too emotional, it's definitely not for everyone, at least I prefer to avoid it. I mostly panicked when I was trading, and kept worrying about my investment and my actions.

On the other hand, holding is an automated, autopilot method, which so far, has been proven to work.

[batang_bitcoin]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

[GeorgeJohn]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Bitcoin holders is equivalent to trader i have not seen a big difference between hodlers and traders frommy own angle of understanding, the slight difference i noticed is that hodlers don't be extremely curious to sell out their currency and they are not much inquisitive to sell, they only sell when a price of the coin they are hodling skyrocket or accelerates in market, while traders are conscious of selling their coins in any caused, in order to enable to earn a profit.

[franky1]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

most traders want to accumulate too. they jsut have different strategies to accumulate long term.

DCA is not about having patience. its just having a regular payment plan, almost on auto pilot. where you just set it and forget it. much like setting up paying into a savings account or a pension plan. it just moves money once a month (and autobuys at the price at deposit). its not some tricky thing or some complex thing that requires will-power and restraint.

the issue with DCA is the lack of control of the price, because its auto pilot to just buy when you deposit, you could end up buying at the ATH for the month, missing loads of oppertunities to have bough cheaper

traders can take better oppertunities and.. if they dont buy in during the first 27 days of the month cheaper. they still can spill their load on day 28 and buy at the "whatever" price. because thats the flaw in DCA. the "buy at whatever"/just buy regular theory

so if you want to maximise your potential. deposit at start of month. and set it to buy at end of the month if funds havnt already bought during the month. because buying coins each month still conforms to DCA because there is no rule that makes it a crime to not buy on the day of deposit. then with more control over oppertunities during a month, you have time..  rather then the theory of "just buy at deposit, dont care about price"

that way you have all that time in between to make better decisions.. and if still cant decide, oh well DCA it on day 28th day. and repeat each month. to still be DCA

[kucritt]

dca method is for investor, in many ways, i think dca is the best option to uy bitcoin, because no matters what is the price you still buy it, its different with traders, they must see the chart, must make a decision when to buy and sell

[Darker45]

People who buy Bitcoin just so that they could also resell it at a bit higher price has yet to really see the bigger, much less the full, picture. If people are still buying Bitcoin so that they could grow their fiat more, they are not yet seeing the wider monetary, economic, and financial realities of the times.

Signs are abundant. We have seen even the most developed nations failing in their inflation targets. We have seen debt limits rising. We have seen money printing rising to intolerable levels. These are the reasons why we HODL.

[cabron]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

Definitely. It had convinced many newbies to do the same though. Now they lost money buying since the time it continues dropping and if accumulating crosses thier mind, they will lose some more.

When the trader learns to see where the dip could go they eventually just wait until it goes to its bottom before buying because DCA is not just for them. The big man who does that is Micheal Saylor but definitely, I don't think his fund manager will really try DCA.

[Poker Player]

Well here the OP, who is partially right, starts from a false dilemma. The only investment alternatives are not DCA vs short term trading, there is also long term trading: people who buy a good amount now and buy or sell partially depending on whether they perceive that the market is overheated or bearish, rebalancing, as they say. There would also be long term investing without doing DCA: someone who buys a good amount of Bitcoin today for example, with an investment horizon of a couple of cycles.

But yes, the part you are right about is that DCA is better than short-term trading for the vast majority of people, and I would argue that any of the other investment alternatives discussed are also better than short-term trading.

[RiskySanchez]

Actually the DCA method is a traditional method used in all other traditional markets buy at dip and sell at high as simple as that everyone understands it but the difficult thing is emotional control in holding coins to get bigger profits in the future, but short term traders also have their own profit with calculate profit and loss and that is what makes it attractive compared to hold coin because you are encouraged to continue to fight with a bearish or bullish market situation at that time

[philipma1957]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

Modified dca.

 Ie 50 a day or 50  week for a cycle  of four years.  10x your dca if a 35% dip happens.

sell 10% of your stash if a 60% jump happens.

do not deviate.

now 50 a day for 4 years is over 70k

but 50 a week for 4 years is just over 10 k this is doable for many people.

[mk4]

By investing at regular intervals or with set prices, you can lower the impact of volatility by averaging out your cost of purchase over time. So, it is somewhat true that DCA helps you play in a safe zone and make profits at the same time. By possessing a few methods, you will be able to make profits in both up and down markets. But don’t fall into the trap of buying high and selling low.

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The main point of DCA is just "automatically" buying consistently regardless of price, even at high prices. If you're going to "DCA" but refuse to buy at high prices then you're defeating one of the main reasons why DCA is a good method — to buy regardless of price.

[uneng]

DCA is a strategy that works for bitcoin, because the currency is getting more valuable on long run, but it's risky anyway for short-medium term investors, because they may buy some coins during an ATH followed by a bearish market which might last some years.

So in my opinion, a DCA strategy must be followed by a passive income from the bought bitcoins as well. This way, even though the investment in bitcoin stays negative for a while, it will keep generating extra income in a daily basis, as many sites offer us this possibility.

[worle1bm]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

DCA investment is best for those who have some regular income source to invest at different intervals but for long term holders who have some extra funds to invest one time can put up money into bitcoin and just hold it for long and return would be great.But yes DCA is the best method to accumulate more at low average price like most investors do.So it all depends on how you want to invest and what amount do you have with you.

[bitterguy28]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

It is depend in the timing of which the buyer did, if he come to Buy in perfect timing when the price is going to Pump so Short Term traders is more profiting than HODLERS.

But if we are talking in long term or not so perfect timing then Hodlers is always the winner.
If the trader wanted to make profit example for 1 week time but the price keeps on dumping then he will not gain anything instead will lose more.

[gabbie2010]

I think this is matter of choice and preference, investors who value their time might not have any time to learn how to trade and embark on trading would surely opt for DCA as means of investment and wouldn't bother about instant ROI but long term, however some investors values earning instant profits, knows how to trade thus embark on trading consequently earning profits on a short term basis, whichever methods that is convenient for any investor should be adopted, don't forcefully embark on unfruitful ventures.

[Leviathan.007]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

[syedzakir]

It is a matter of one's preference.
Some people want to get profit instantly on daily basis and they actually know how to trade so they spend more time on trading and earning profit side by side.
While some people who value their time and don't even know much about trading so they invest in different coins and try to hold it for a long time period. These are the ones who face loss in rare cases. Most of the times they are in profit.

[Kimonoe]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

but for those who have short term trading skills, of course they can also enjoy life by trading and always thinking, especially if they have enough time, or even full day traders, of course they will enjoy the journey, because it is a hobby, can experience trading not a burden. Even holders can sometimes feel stressed when their assets start to drop by up to 50%.

[yhiaali3]

For long-term investments, the dca buying strategy is definitely the best, it does not matter what the price of bitcoin is at the moment because you will certainly be the winner in the long term because with a little historical comparison you will find that bitcoin always has an upward trend, of course who buys in this way must That they have reserve money that can be dispensed for a long time because this may take many years and the capital will be frozen during all this long period.

[KaliLinux]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

If you really want to invest in Bitcoin then you have to know that DCA is the best method for it plus if you have the resources for it. People that just have some lost cash to throw into Bitcoin and rive the wave when there is a Bull market ain't really investors but just trying to catch the opportunity to make the gains at that time but true investors think differently.

[fiulpro]

I don't have much to invest therefore I generally hold my bitcoins, whatever extra money I save, then take it out every once in a while to pay for basic amenities. Holder and traders are two opposite sides. Generally the traders are going all in a risky platform and at the end they might end up either making a lot of money or loosing a lot. Their income is active and it involves getting aquatinted with the market every single second, it's a hard job and one needs experience, there are sites online that can help you predict the price but I highly doubt their authenticity, but traders can study the graph and sometimes predict, plus you gotta be huge on the news as well, all the FUD's, the whale alerts etc.. on the other hand a Holder is a person who shuts down looking at their wallets when the price is declining and just hope for the best, the passive income is quite impressive if one has the ability to invest a certain amount and hold for a while.

[mm2543363580]

According to https://dcabtc.com/ , if somebody has bought bitcoin 10$ per day for last three years then right now he has invested 10960$ in bitcoin and has 105,858,000 satoshis in his portfolio that values 62269$, a percentage change of 468$. This clearly gives how different dca is from short term trading.

[batang_bitcoin]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

most traders want to accumulate too. they jsut have different strategies to accumulate long term.

DCA is not about having patience. its just having a regular payment plan, almost on auto pilot. where you just set it and forget it. much like setting up paying into a savings account or a pension plan. it just moves money once a month (and autobuys at the price at deposit). its not some tricky thing or some complex thing that requires will-power and restraint.

the issue with DCA is the lack of control of the price, because its auto pilot to just buy when you deposit, you could end up buying at the ATH for the month, missing loads of oppertunities to have bough cheaper

traders can take better oppertunities and.. if they dont buy in during the first 27 days of the month cheaper. they still can spill their load on day 28 and buy at the "whatever" price. because thats the flaw in DCA. the "buy at whatever"/just buy regular theory

so if you want to maximise your potential. deposit at start of month. and set it to buy at end of the month if funds havnt already bought during the month. because buying coins each month still conforms to DCA because there is no rule that makes it a crime to not buy on the day of deposit. then with more control over oppertunities during a month, you have time..  rather then the theory of "just buy at deposit, dont care about price"

that way you have all that time in between to make better decisions.. and if still cant decide, oh well DCA it on day 28th day. and repeat each month. to still be DCA

That issue isn't really that big for DCA. It's part of it and as you've planned to keep it, you should anticipate that the prices would be changing from time to time since this market is truly volatile.
That strategizing of when to buy but still remains as DCA, is actually a good plan. Whichever suits your buying power and you're confident with it, just choose and do when you think is the best time.

[dezoel]

I do not really think that it matters what kind of investor or trader you are, I believe that anyone can be successful in the market. Mainly what I do is long term investment, but I have friends who are just short term traders and they are always making good amount of money as well.

So, I wouldn’t say that it matters what exactly you are into, what matters the most is that  you are able to do what you are doing the right way, then you’re going to be successful in the market. Whatever it is that you choose to do, you have to be ready to dedicate your time and have patience, and make sure that you learn it properly before you start. That way you will be more likely to be successful in the market. We all can’t be doing the same thing and you know that.

[carrigan]

Hodlers and traders are equally profitable, usually those who tend to want to make a profit quickly will choose to trade short term. Especially if they often have urgent needs, this also encourages someone to prefer short-term trading. Therefore, both traders and traders are equally profitable in the hands of the right people or according to existing needs.

[virasog]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Holding and DCA is only applicable in spot trading but what about those people who are doing future's trading ?

You can do dollar cost averaging if you are doing trading in the Spot market. Most of the people are doing trading in future's market and it is not advisable to dollar cost average in that market.

[Rufsilf]

Holders are always the winner in any market situation. if the market goes up and bullish holders will take benefit more than others because they are investing in it and they just set their goal and wait for the long term targets, unlike the short time traders who are always looking for signals in the market to sell or buy and open short-term trade positions. On the other hand, holders will have a much better life and less stress because they are not under pressure to buy the market every day, that's why in my idea crypto will provide a much better situation for holders and investors than traders.

Yeah, I'm with you mate. Hodlers may seem to benefit in either ways especially the situation we are now in and it is much more safe because bitcoin hodlers aren't affected when the market is being bullish or any dips at all. Instead, in every correction and recovery they're always in the 1st row to benefit it.
Unlike short traders, they always depend on every situation wether it's good or bad because that's the way how they benefit from it, though it's sometimes be more profitable than hodlers but the stress and pressure is always there when you're a trader and it's much more riskier.

[Henrobakkara]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Yeah, I hear you, but this might not work for those that don't have monthly or weekly paycheck. You can consistently DCA when you know that pay is coming in regularly during that time of the week/Month and you can set aside a % for your DCA. One time Buy when you have the opportunity isn't that bad as well however, timing matters in investment so as to be able to leverage on the price but the overall aim is to HODL whether you DCA or you buy in one lump.

[Mauser]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I fully agree with you, the investors who bought over the last few years regularly bitcoins and held them made the most return. Sure when you see the price chart and you would have always bought below 35,000 USD and sold above 60,000  would have made a much higher return. But how do you know the levels before hand? We can't. After the rally at the start of the year I told myself if BTC ever drops below 20,000 USD again I would sell all my stocks and investment funds and would buy bitcoins. Unfortunately it didn't drop so low. Just holding is the best approach in my opinion.

[barabarian1]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

agree, they have different method and task to be completed. holder just stay calm with their coin, wait until their the price reach what they want. trader cant be calm like holder, they always monitoring every coin move, like 'where i can take my profit'.
they all have different value, and method.

[CryptocurencyKing]

I don't seem to agree more that hodlers benefit more than traders. For me, its a matter of what your better at and really find to be convenient for you.

Yeah, hodling is about a lot of patience but then, a trader ain't about the patience but, to make some bucks out of every move or opportunity in the market. Hence, timing is of the essence, a timing a hodler is accorded the luxury.

Given the same amount of coins to both a hodler and a trader, a trader has the opportunity of making the most of it if experienced enough to trade the market with minimal loses becuase, loses do come around. A hodler might not go through any of them risk of loose few Sats but, he's only element is time. A time both parties have but, the trader takes the risk to increase hodlings by trading.

[bitzizzix]

There are only two ways to earn a decent profit, HODL (easy) and Trading (hard way).
And it doesn't matter which one you choose, it's important that you know the basics well and understand the risks.
Becoming a holder is the best and safe way and has a small risk although in my opinion there is no risk of loss, I mean as long as the price is still not satisfactory or it goes down it doesn't matter because as long as the price has not reached the desired target, the holder will continue to hold it even if they have to wait years.
the risk of becoming a holder is not loss but time and strong patience.
Becoming a profitable trade takes a long time to master because trading is not an easy job and you also have to do it full time and also risk losing if it's not right and profit depends on your capital.

[irsykes]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

[taufik123]

holders or scalpers will both benefit if they know how to use the method. Holders with a DCA system may benefit from using capital gradually to buy at deep prices.
For scalping, it can also be profitable by making fast trades, but also with large capital so that the profits are more and each time the order gets maximum results.
Each method will have advantages and disadvantages of each, so it depends on how it is used and the suitability of the method.

[Mamun74]

I think,, Holders and Short traders will both benefit from it if they know proper knowledge and skill and how to use method. Holders and traders both can get profit but both are different method. I think bitcoin holders will get good profit From his holding BTC.Coz BTC is most valuable coin in The narket.I hope bitcoin price Will be more increase in 2022.

[Doell]

ah the winner is the short term trader ,strategy using DCA method is only really successful if the price has exceeded the target ,it can also take years to make a profit ! while short terms traders make quick profits ! there is someone who uses the DCA strategy but after the price is high he doesn't sell his assets and loses that's moment while short terms takes every lucky moment !

[naira]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

[qwertyup23]

Depends on your preference. There a lot of things to go wrong when you're trading, it solely depends on your actions, your experience, psychology etc. Some people get too emotional, it's definitely not for everyone, at least I prefer to avoid it. I mostly panicked when I was trading, and kept worrying about my investment and my actions.

On the other hand, holding is an automated, autopilot method, which so far, has been proven to work.

There was an article that I read that 97% of beginner traders lose their money on the process of their first trading experience, while the other 3% earned as much as a bank teller. It goes to show the complicated system and complex ideas that are needed in trading in order to profit. While there may be experienced traders, there are also newbie traders who lost most of their resources due to impulsiveness.

HODLing may be considered one of the better ways of investing. If you prefer not to do any hassle task, then this method may work either short or long-term since you only need to be aware of the initial investment you entered, while cashing out the excess- which would yield to profit.

[Yamifoud]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

They might in some instances like if they use their funds wisely and just make trades with potential coins. This is very common to impatient people, short-term trade is what they prepared but of course, it was profiting. They are more comfortable doing this and they felt winning against long-term traders. Well, does is not the problem as traders/investors or anyone will choose those things that it makes easier for them without the struggles to hold longer than they can do.

I'm not literally to say that they are winning, that is actually the strategy they use and it was fine and working well for them. And they continue doing this.

[carlfebz2]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

Yeah its true that it doesnt really matter whether you are a holder or a short time trader because what matter most on here is on getting profits and this is where people do really differs on decisions and things

to do because we do differ in experience and skills when it comes  to trading and what matter most on here is that we should know and do all sorts of things as long we could make out profits.

So its up to someones choice whether they do chose as a hodler or a short term trader as long you do make out profits then thats whats important.

[sheenshane]

HODLing may be considered one of the better ways of investing. If you prefer not to do any hassle task, then this method may work either short or long-term since you only need to be aware of the initial investment you entered, while cashing out the excess- which would yield to profit.

I tend to agree with this statement, but I don't know why there were too many risk taker investors, they want to make a profit in just a short period of time, and most commonly those coins that recently have a hype due to the manipulation of price while others even choose to invest in meme coin which doesn't have really a use.  Why?  Because they want to make a profit in just a week or months knowing that it could that's a trap and you will end up losing your investment.

I also prefer holding which is a good decision.  Though the process of earning money is quite long to happen at least the risk isn't that huge as we invested into altcoins or trading altcoins.

[arditiyan]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

In my opinion, this is not the standard. btc holders with any method or short traders each have their advantages, it's just that there are different methods between short trades and holders.
but the opportunity for btc holders is greater because long-term holders usually buy at low prices and make profits when prices increase in the future.
but for the DCA method I'm still not sure and still doubt the capacity of the method

[michellee]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

They might in some instances like if they use their funds wisely and just make trades with potential coins. This is very common to impatient people, short-term trade is what they prepared but of course, it was profiting. They are more comfortable doing this and they felt winning against long-term traders. Well, does is not the problem as traders/investors or anyone will choose those things that it makes easier for them without the struggles to hold longer than they can do.

I'm not literally to say that they are winning, that is actually the strategy they use and it was fine and working well for them. And they continue doing this.

As traders, we will choose what method can help us make a profit because that is the main goal for every trader involved in trading. If they prefer to use short-term trading and can analyze better than a long-term trader, that will not be a problem because every target will know what they need to do. A long-term trader will not feel jealous of the profit because they can also profit in the long term. They choose to be long-term traders for many reasons, but most of them do not have much time to analyze the market, so they decide to be long-term traders. It will be back to the trader itself, which way they will trade.

[pushups44]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

DCA is better than not having any bitcoin at all. If we are to expect S2F or other exponential models to play out, then it follows that DCA of bitcoin will be supremely intelligent compared to other investment strategies over the long run. I hold BTC and continue to DCA satoshis regularly. DCA is simply a way to avoid FOMO or panic-selling.

[AicecreaME]

Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I guess there shouldn't be an issue of which is better than which because we have different preferences and strategies in making money in crypto. We also have different financial capabilities and status in which play a great role too as to why is someone is into either the long term or short term.

If you are capable of having your money invested for the long term because you have other means to generate income to sustain your daily needs, wants and maintain the lifestyle that you have, then good for you. Investing for the long term is proven to be effective most especially using the DCA method which is investing something, then forgetting about it so that your funds would profit over time. Those people who are into the long term personally have a strong sense of trust in the coin they invested in because waiting is such a challenge most especially if you witness the trend whenever the bearish market enters. Long-term holding isn't for the faint-hearted people. It is intended for those people who are patient and wise. There are man people who actually want to invest for the long term, however, some of them don't just have the means to stuck up their funds for a long time. Hence, they do the other method which is investing for the short term which is not a bad idea at all. In fact, it is also a good way to earn some funds.

Meanwhile, short-term investing is ideal for those people who aren't really patient enough to wait for their money to profit over time, as well as for those people who lack funds to invest in crypto. Others just really prefer to do short-term investment and trading because the money circulates easily in buying and selling methods. This type of work requires a broad knowledge of crypto. Perfect timing and technical analysis on when to buy and sell is also necessary.

If you do either or both of the two, it's all good. Just do what you are comfortable in doing. After all, it will still generate money, the only difference is the time it will be harvested.

[buwaytress]

DCA is simply a way to avoid FOMO or panic-selling.

In fact, even if, for some reason, you're a sociopath and absolutely impervious to emotion, DCA frees you up to live a regular life. This means building a career, or pursuing a hobby, or fine-tuning a talent, or growing a family... whatever it is you'd have been doing if you didn't know about Bitcoin.

I think too many people "get into Bitcoin" and it consumes their life. Good for them, good for all, but many of these guys "get in" with the wrong expectation. Thinking they can learn enough to outsmart the rest of the market.

DCA just means you make yourself useful as you otherwise would, while at the same not missing out on the biggest financial opportunity in our lifetime.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

[Natalim]

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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

[BuNga_cute]

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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

[haasanjui]

BTC is expensive coin everyone can't afford it to buy and trade it. And bitcoin is for long term holders. People brought BTC in 2011 and now they are millionaire. And they still hold BTC. But here is many of other coin for short time trade. Everyone can buy and trade them easily.

[LittleBitFunny]

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

I never wait too long with my open trade when I'm in Altcoin. I think it is not wise to open a long-term trade in Altcoin, cause trading in altcoin is profitable but the risk is high here.
Most of the time after the correction period altcoin failed to recover the losses, opening a long trade in altcoin is nothing but losing your money.
For Bitcoin the I do the opposite thing, Whatever price I buy bitcoin I never sell it to loss, cause I know the price will reach the target today or tomorrow, longing your trade on Bitcoin is profitable and reliable.

[ReiMomo]

It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.

[bittraffic]

It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.

It depends if the hold holder bought at the price where its just cents. Someone how bought ADA at $0.02 I guess is making lots of money still even after this fails more than 50% already. If you have bought SOL or ETH at $5 still is a big profit depending on the capital.

I would prefer to actually hold the tokens that I can stake and still have the growth of money as you sleep. Somehow I have some of these tokens that I bought at such price and staking but still prefer to have BTC.

[ven7net]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I believe that both holders and short-term traders can make money with BTC however there are some differences. For example, in order to become a BTC holder now and have excellent profit in the future, provided the price of BTC rises, you need to invest a large amount of money in BTC, but what if there is no such money? Then you should probably try yourself in BTC trading, which, in principle, many do. I believe that in this case, some can win that others, however, provided that they know how the crypto market works and they have some experience, without this there is a chance to lose everything.

[Rengga Jati]

I cannot say that all holders with DCA methods are the winners, and others are losers, or even traders are losers.
We should see the cases, moreover personal cases.
Holding is about the patient. Not all people even holding with DCA method has big patient. And commonly they are the ones who have a high willingness to hold for a long-term investment.
Every decision will have risks, so does holding with even the DCA method. We even don't know when is the dipping price, even we are buying BTC at several rates, we may also lose some money if we are not patient in order to take profits or we are in several urgent conditions to sell the coins.
Moreover, we may also not be sure enough when the price will rise up again, it may be the next bullish era in which will probably happen after 5 years later or others.

Btw, many traders also can get very high profits by trading Bitcoin, and of course, they are professional traders. So do the professional holders that will also be the winners.
So, it depends on who you are and what you can do.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Btw, many traders also can get very high profits by trading Bitcoin, and of course, they are professional traders. So do the professional holders that will also be the winners.
So, it depends on who you are and what you can do.

^ Definitely right, upon reading the heading title this is what I am thinking. It should always matter on us individually on which you are suitable between holding and short time trading. If you have a lot of knowledge in trading and you know how to calculate that analysis to make your prediction becomes accurate then short trading is just for you and if you don't have knowledge or a zero-knowledge, holding is the best for you, the holding does not require knowledge it always matter on your patience, so if you think you are not capable on trading then holding is good for you.

[Ziskinberg]

BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.

[boyptc]

BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.

And doing not that much effort, holding is the best method.

As you've said, it depends on the hard work of everyone whether you're a trader or a holder. Being a holder seems to be easy but the emotion is intense. A hardworking and wise holder, he won't stop buying, as long as he sees the entry to be good to buy, he'll buy.

In trading, it's higher risk and higher reward and you're doing it most of the time to make a profit. While in holding, it's like an accumulation not just with bitcoin but also your profit. It's a one-day payout if you sell.

[Quidat]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Depends on how much you've been holding on because holding is something worth if you do hold much coins but if not then DCA would be the best but the question
is.. would you have those funds for you to have continous buyback whenever theres a correction or dip? Not all would really be that capable on  doing so but
for those who could then that would really be an advantage for them to do so but of course this isnt something buying back when it gets cheaper.
You would be always looking for possible bottom at least.

[btc78]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Holding isn't always the best strategy because we have our own desire and dreams on how we wanted to make money here because while others are willing to wait for long there are someone who wanted to make profit in short term in which they wanted to risk now and gain or lose later.
this attitude applies in most of us now as Holding is far profitable in our time now, because i believe that because of the increasing of new projects the growth of Bitcoin and the adoption makes it harder while some new projects gains the interests of investors .

[Ziskinberg]

BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.

And doing not that much effort, holding is the best method.

As you've said, it depends on the hard work of everyone whether you're a trader or a holder. Being a holder seems to be easy but the emotion is intense. A hardworking and wise holder, he won't stop buying, as long as he sees the entry to be good to buy, he'll buy.

In trading, it's higher risk and higher reward and you're doing it most of the time to make a profit. While in holding, it's like an accumulation not just with bitcoin but also your profit. It's a one-day payout if you sell.

And some people will choose to just HOLD because they care much about their security and are afraid of risk. But, these traders, especially pro-traders are making more profit far different from just making a profit in holding. If I am really good at trading, I'd no longer hold but rather maximize my time in trading. However, HOLDING is just like saving some funds in the future and it serves some purpose that makes people do it just like the save fiat money on the banks.

[panukurap]

Of course Hodler will win the most if he applies the DCA method, there are still many people who don't understand this method. Therefore, if you feel capable and know about it, try joining. The income that will be received is usually if you work as an important person in this big crypto. I'm not a hypocrite but most people would like a big salary including myself actually.

[BuNga_cute]

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It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

I never wait too long with my open trade when I'm in Altcoin. I think it is not wise to open a long-term trade in Altcoin, cause trading in altcoin is profitable but the risk is high here.
Most of the time after the correction period altcoin failed to recover the losses, opening a long trade in altcoin is nothing but losing your money.
For Bitcoin the I do the opposite thing, Whatever price I buy bitcoin I never sell it to loss, cause I know the price will reach the target today or tomorrow, longing your trade on Bitcoin is profitable and reliable.

Most of the altcoins are not recommended for long term investment, because usually most of the circulating altcoins are just copycats from
previous projects. So most altcoins are created just for pump and dump, especially for new projects if after experiencing a price increase,
soon it will drop drastically. After that it was very difficult to recover, therefore there were quite a lot of altcoins in my wallet and couldn't
be sold because there was no demand. So be careful if we want to invest in altcoins, if we are already profit, immediately sell the altcoins,
before there is no demand. But there are some altcoins that are safe enough for long-term investment, but very few in number, one of
which is Ethereum. The conclusion is whatever our coin choice, do research and analysis before buying it, so we can make the right decision.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

I agree with this statement, if a person who has great skills for short-term trading must exploit his ability, because he can turn it into money, I have friends who tell me that they do not care where the BTC goes, it can go down or It can go up, they with any direction that the BTC takes they continue to make profits, this type of ability cannot be compared to a person who has his maximum potential in investment, because he would simply lose money, because he would not know how to operate and how to react to the bear market .

[nurilham]

-snip-

That's right, it can be concluded here that whatever it is depends on the owner, whether it will be hold or traded. what is certain, as said, all of them require skill, knowledge and not to forget the experience in it. Some people are good at holding their coins and some people are also good at short time trading so as long as we do it well it will be mutually beneficial. In my opinion, it's that true that short-term trading is more challenging than holding because in addition to a shorter time, short-term trading also requires careful thought and analysis.

[Donatas Leonavicius]

Btc longterm holders win
Just buy Btc and you're in safe hands.
Buy without leverage.
Buy and hold, don't sell until your target will be reached.

Btc short-term traders lose.
Because Btc trading market too noisy.

Don't you think 🤔 Michael Saylor  Btc whale 🐳 invest billions of dollars 💵 in Btc and he don't use trading, because he know that all Btc speculators goes to 0 profit.


Many thanks for watching

Best regards

Donatas Leonavicius

[Slow death]

It's funny that when the price drops a lot and the price is low for many months, people panic and don't talk about hodl, but when the price goes up a lot people talk about hodl again and when they're already profiting, we can't ask everyone do hodl, there are people who are satisfied with day trading and others who just want to buy whenever the price drops a lot and sell whenever the price increases a lot. each person is free to apply the strategy they see fit.

[touseefahmad1999]

I my Personal opinion both types of hodler can get perfect benefits according this type of situation. long term  hodlers have take decision and decided they will not sell any crypto when they will not reached a target price. short term hodler can predict the price and take profit at that situation so they have not take huge profit . i think you should some invest in long term coins and some money invest for a short term in day trading

[Farma]

It's funny that when the price drops a lot and the price is low for many months, people panic and don't talk about hodl, but when the price goes up a lot people talk about hodl again and when they're already profiting, we can't ask everyone do hodl, there are people who are satisfied with day trading and others who just want to buy whenever the price drops a lot and sell whenever the price increases a lot. each person is free to apply the strategy they see fit.

Yes, this is absolutely true. everyone has a strategy in seeking profit for their lives. however, they also actually provide a pretty big advantage when we do it right. I think it's inappropriate when we compare our income in such a way. maybe some people hold on to very long periods of time because they own other assets, and people who do day trading still have some pretty pressing needs. however, if it is measured since they started trading, maybe the profit they get is also very large.
however, both are great ways to make money. As for who wins the most profit, everyone has a different outcome, because it starts with a different capital. personally, I do both, and it's quite profitable indeed. selling when prices are high as savings, and day trading to make ends meet.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It has been determined that altconis are currently still a long-term risk investment, but of course there is a way to take risks, if we buy a particularly cheap altcoins, and wait until the price of BTC rises it is likely that it can give us good profits, of course it would be spectacular to have privileged information about the market to let it run in the long term, however I know different projects that many have invested and this is the moment that BTC went from $ 20k to + $ 60k and did not rise, this means that the Low volume projects that at one point were the sensation are practically dead, these types of projects are the ones to avoid.

[pealr12]

In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

[stomachgrowls]

In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

Generally speaking or to be honest then we could really say that short term traders are the ones who do make out profits more than into those who have been holding exclude into those who bought

on early times then its a considerable one but for those who had recently bought out and then tend to hold for long term then it would really be a test of patience on which most people do really fail on.

Whether you are holder or not then it wont matter because this is really mattering on someones preference in their view towards their investment so this one would really vary.

[Coyster]

In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

I do not completely agree with you, short term holders aren't always lucky, and mind you that short term investors tend to invest in altcoins that are usually profitable in the short term, but also very risky cause many, if not all of them are pump and dump coins and as such they can appreciate fast and dump faster, making it very possible to incur loss.

But having said that, long term holders usually choose Bitcoin, and if you look at its history, its price always appreciates back up even after a dump or a plunge, thus if one is patient enough to hold Bitcoin for the long period they are usually bound to make good returns on their investment.

[South Park]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Could you show us some evidence of this? After all you are quite convinced that you are correct and that DCA is the way to go, personally I do not believe it at all, if we are talking about a strategy that is easy to implement to anyone regardless of their knowledge about the market then you may have a point, however if we are talking about performance then it is obvious those that buy the dip and the traders that can either go short or long in the market should on average obtain more profits than those that are using DCA as their main method of investing.

[kawetsriyanto]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.

This will work for holders who are patient in waiting for the bullish trend of Bitcoin itself. But for those who are hurried up, it may not really work.
But I also agree that most holders are great enough in earning profits by holding, even for several years of holding Bitcoin.

But, some traders who are rapidly and consistently taking profits for years by doing daily or short-term tradings are also the winners as long as they can manage their trading strategies and management.
many traders are successful by trading Bitcoin and the earning profits may not be small. This is commonly done by those who are also only having small capitals.
So, whoever you are, trader or investor/holder, do whatever that can make you earn more and more pforist based on your own cosniderations and strategies.

[adzino]

I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.

[Xinarae*]

Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.

[Chato1977]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Lol this is a joke? do you know that the biggest profiting these days are those who are buying short term? we knew that bitcoin take long time before climbing so those who buy and sell are the one you makes money.
those people that has good in TA and can make speculative correctly and so when they buy now they can sell later with profit.

Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.

if you can analyze when the dip will happen so you can accumulate more right?
but what if not?

[Pahom]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

[Hypnosis00]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

[carlisle1]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits

[Alanaz]

I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.

I agree with what you are saying because buying when it dips I think is something that is indeed one of the best to have and the prospect of a higher profit rate.
on the other hand this is like an action that can't be done every time because it takes momentum and time for this but it's still good enough to do when it can happen

[lucates]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

Of course, people are do what they want.If it's BTC holding or short term trade both are benefited. We can't compare who's benefited more because their needs and situations are totally different. So do what you can, learn from the mistake, make a better move and stay happy.

[pareshnakar]

Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.

[Sled]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.

I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.

[Shasha80]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits

Actually, both long-term Bitcoin holding or short-term trading are equally profitable as long as we do it well. So it is better to do both than
to have to choose one, but it must be admitted that the risk of short-term trading is much higher. In the end we do need to ask ourselves
which one is comfortable for us to do, because everyone has different choices. Only we ourselves know what is best for us to do, so it doesn't
matter if we have different choices from others. But because I have studied the crypto world well, then I also know how to make profit from
long-term Bitcoin holding and short-term trading, so for me to do both can generate much greater profit than having to choose one.

[Quidat]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.

I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.

Long term = Potential/Real use case/Huge support
Short term = Volume/Liquidity/Ranking

You would really be having these common factors if you do tend on what kind of trader are you.You would be prioritizing things over one another.

If you do go for long term then you wouldnt bother or mind yourself on engaging with shorter ones but actually you could still deal with
both sides if you wanted to.

[amihada]

Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.

true I totally agree that market conditions are very important to read whether to hold or hold in the short term but if you want big profits the option is to hold on for the long term.

[andriarto]

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.

I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.

Long term = Potential/Real use case/Huge support
Short term = Volume/Liquidity/Ranking

You would really be having these common factors if you do tend on what kind of trader are you.You would be prioritizing things over one another.

If you do go for long term then you wouldnt bother or mind yourself on engaging with shorter ones but actually you could still deal with
both sides if you wanted to.

both parties have different treatment. I think it's up to us which one we prefer to do, because to be able to deal with short-term trading is not easy, and we are required to spend time, energy and psychologically. but many also choose to do both, in the hope that it will be easy for them to find income every day from trading results

[doomloop]

Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.

true I totally agree that market conditions are very important to read whether to hold or hold in the short term but if you want big profits the option is to hold on for the long term.

Personally I feel it has to do with what you intend doing with bitcoin, if you have plans of Bitcoin being your daily source of income, then you would have to be a day trader. But, if your plan is to be an investor, then you are better off holding it for as long as you want.

Among these two options that are available, day trading carries the most risk, and anyone who has plans to engage in day trading needs to study more on analysis, both technical and fundamental analysis, to be able to help them in making prediction on what the market will turn out to be. Those who simply hold can even just rely on fundamental analysis, because there isn’t much work involved when you just plan to hold your coin.

[isaac_clarke22]

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This was my strategy back then. Buying the dips, though it wasn't that complex thought for me to do so. As long as it went below of a price range ending with a "0", I am going to buy it if I have the means to buy one though.
At the same time taking profit from it as well, because why not?

[Flying11Horse]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Yeah you are right hoodlers always win. The reason is that Bitcoin is now much more than a simple coin it has now become the main currency of the internet ,so its price keeps on increasing. Short time traders can get a profit of maybe some dollars but hoodlers earn a lot .Bitcoin's price was not more than 0.004$ at some time but now it's all time high price was 69K$,which is alot .

[Questat]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Yeah you are right hoodlers always win. The reason is that Bitcoin is now much more than a simple coin it has now become the main currency of the internet ,so its price keeps on increasing. Short time traders can get a profit of maybe some dollars but hoodlers earn a lot .Bitcoin's price was not more than 0.004$ at some time but now it's all time high price was 69K$,which is alot .

Not all. I mean, only true holders will have their way to succeed but those people who pretend to become a holder will soon give up and leave. The same thing that gonna happen to traders. It really doesn't matter if hold Bitcoin or altcoins as true holders will choose to hold and will keep that faith until the end. The only difference to trading is the risk they'll take. But they choose to take more risk than simply just hold is that because they are comfortable and happy with what they are doing. As for me, they both can be a winner...

[Luzin]

Short time and long time holders all make profit but some are more and some are less. But short time is only a temporary profit for the day but if hold long time it helps to achieve a much larger amount of profit. that's why long time holding is always better

Maybe everyone has a sense of comfort in what he's doing or not.  Sometimes a short time trader is also profitable, if you understand and can do. If you say holder is always better I disagree. Maybe for BTC the price will always reach a new ATH but other coins are not always so. There are times when the btc price correction is far below when you buy. Sometimes the price of BTC goes up and down sharply away from where you buy it. Everyone's thinking is different, I think as long as you always make a profit it's not wrong. Let's trade with what makes you comfortable and profit.

[Dr.Osh]

Short time and long time holders all make profit but some are more and some are less. But short time is only a temporary profit for the day but if hold long time it helps to achieve a much larger amount of profit. that's why long time holding is always better

both of which are profitable. the only difference is the risks and benefits. long-term profits may be very large because many profits can be made such as holding while collecting, selling when the price is reaching ATH, and so on. only, the time it takes to enjoy it is something unknown. however, in the short term, I think he can enjoy their benefits in a short time. although the benefits they get, well, but at least they can immediately enjoy it.

[lelahenderson]

It’s all about your risk appetite. Not all of us have the guts to see our money go down when our asset reduces in value. Some of us find it better to take advantage of the small market fluctuations just to be able to sleep well.

[doctor877]

If you want to use DCA then you have to plan it from start, people don't usually cope because they just remember after they have bought at will several times and at the time which they are supposed to buy they won't have any or enough funds to do so. This is what usually turn most people to holder Trading is about being patient.

[laurenB7742]

Short time and long time holders all make profit but some are more and some are less. But short time is only a temporary profit for the day but if hold long time it helps to achieve a much larger amount of profit. that's why long time holding is always better

both of which are profitable. the only difference is the risks and benefits. long-term profits may be very large because many profits can be made such as holding while collecting, selling when the price is reaching ATH, and so on. only, the time it takes to enjoy it is something unknown. however, in the short term, I think he can enjoy their benefits in a short time. although the benefits they get, well, but at least they can immediately enjoy it.

It's true that long-term holding will give you a huge profit, But this is not just like enjoyment, people who are doing short-term trading or day trading also know that hodling is more profitable than day trading.
But, they are helpless, not everyone is much richer to invest for a long uncertain time. Day traders have to make a profit daily cause most of them are Indigent, they have to earn for their livelihood and family.
I know many students who are managing their study fees by doing day trading.

Otherwise, if you have a huge amount of idle money it is more likely profitable if you put that on Bitcoin instead of putting that money in a bank.

[verita1]

Both are good options to invest in bitcoin. If you are clear about the destination of your investment. There are those who invest in altcoins, get their profits and invest more in bitcoin. In most cases bitcoin investors see it as a reserve asset. Bitcoin is also the favorite of recognized investors who seek to support their best investments.

[Raflesia]

Both are good options to invest in bitcoin. If you are clear about the destination of your investment. There are those who invest in altcoins, get their profits and invest more in bitcoin. In most cases bitcoin investors see it as a reserve asset. Bitcoin is also the favorite of recognized investors who seek to support their best investments.

I think it's clear that bitcoin is a long-term investment and can also be used as a reserve fund that has been done by many investors for bitcoin as a good holder for the future.
For other investments like in my altcoins it is the same as choosing the best ratings such as ETH and BNB which have long-term clarity, it will be the same value as bitcoin but can we afford short-term trading if we don't have the expertise then I think we can only as true coin holder only.

[Webetcoins]

You’re not considering the part that there are also short term traders that are skilled in the market and can be making good profit on a daily and weekly. Depends on you, if you’re good enough to do short term trading then you should get on with it.

If it’s not working for you then you should go for long term. Some people don’t like having to wait for a long term before they can make earnings, they prefer that they are working hard on a daily and making steady income from the market, and by the end of the month they have made a lot of profit. This has its advantages, as someone who is trading daily you’re going to be making steady income.

[haasanjui]

BTC holders buy BTC and wait for long time to take profit but short time traders buy any coin and wait for little pump and sell coin after taking little profit. But it is risky because price can be dump and you can be in loss but hold coin is good. In holding, we have set a goal and we wait for it and we can't sell it in loss.

[BD Crypto]

Obviously DCA method is the most effective in btc trading. But traders are used to trade for short time because they thought if they hold for a long period they can lose their principle assets. So we should go for DCA method by holding.

[fullhdpixel]

Both are good options to invest in bitcoin. If you are clear about the destination of your investment. There are those who invest in altcoins, get their profits and invest more in bitcoin. In most cases bitcoin investors see it as a reserve asset. Bitcoin is also the favorite of recognized investors who seek to support their best investments.

Right, being clear about your destination is just the right word. We shouldn’t fall in to what others think is right. Although the op may be right for the fact that long term is an easy one to engage in and everyone believes that you don’t lose when you go long term, there is always going to be that time that the market will turn to be in your favor especially when there is a bull run.

So, if you invest and the market is going down, there is still the chance to make money when the bull run starts and the markets starts to go up, you never lose. But this is usually when it’s Bitcoin, majority of the altcoins are just trash.

[retreat]

It’s all about your risk appetite. Not all of us have the guts to see our money go down when our asset reduces in value. Some of us find it better to take advantage of the small market fluctuations just to be able to sleep well.

if you always cut-loss when the price drops then you will never make a profit. often being a holder is a happy thing, you don't have to think hard about price changes that occur tomorrow, all you think about is selling or taking profits in the future when the bitcoin price reaches your target.

[mildmanneredsuffering]

bitcoin is fucking stupid. 75% of days are down. it was 50% higher a year ago. a year ago gas was 30% less and everything was 30% less, now everything costs more but bitcoin crashed, is bitcoin just a jewish scam to drain wealth from victims?