Playing with dices

[vandread]

Hi,

Let's get straight to the point.
We have all played the coinflip at some point in life. And we all know the martingale strategy does not work at all in the long run.

But, I decided to use a dicebot and run it for fun and after 1 million bets the bankroll went bust several times.
So I made a script using tampermonkey that saves all the earnings in a vault so that when it eventually went bust the winnings would not be affected, meaning the bankroll always stays the same and you can never lose your earnings.

Since the martingale system was a no go, I decided to use another pattern which to my surprize performed much better than the martingale.
Then I ran a couple million simulations and found that the max loss in a row rarely exceeds 15, so I decided to take the loss at 16 losses. And with a bit of luck you will earn the money back.

I'm betting 0.0005 dogecoin as a basebet, so as you can imagine it doesn't make an awful lot of money short-term, but 150-200 dogecoin a day isn't that bad. I'm building up the bankroll so I can bet more and more with time.

I'm not a genious when it comes to math, but I'm using 150 dogecoin as "the bankroll" every day. Meaning if it does go bust I have to make up for it with some of my earnings vaulted.


If someone wants to do the math or help me with the script or the project itself I'd be happy to share everything with you.

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[Poker Player]

So I made a script using tampermonkey that saves all the earnings in a vault so that when it eventually went bust the winnings would not be affected, meaning the bankroll always stays the same and you can never lose your earnings.

I don't get it. And from what little I understand, I don't buy it either.

So, you use it a 150 bankroll today. And let's say you earn 25 Doge. You put them in a vault. The long term expectancy for the 150 Doge is to turn into 0. So, when you lose that money, what you do? Yo use another 150 Doge? You are playing a negative mathematical expectancy game, no matter what scripts you use, so the long term inevitable outcome is 0.

As for the Doge you put in a vault, you won't lose them as long as you don't bet with them but if you use them to gamble the same will happen: the long term mathematical expected outcome is 0.

[Wexnident]

So wait, if you're only using that set amount of doge to bet and taking all the winnings to a vault which would remain unspent, it'd be a constant expenditure of 150-200 dogecoins per day, while the profit would remain unknown? And assuming that you did something with counting the maximum losses so that it stops at 16 losses in a row, the eventual result is that the script is for limiting the losses, that's it, it doesn't guarantee profit or anything like that.

Honestly isn't any long-term betting considered a loss due to the house edge? Or am I missing something?

[Erdogan]

I understand that you have done the initial calculations, but you need someone to confirm it?
You talk about millions of rolls, but in the end you ask about someone to write an autoscript.
Does this mean that you have been doing all these millionth simulations manually until now?

[Oshosondy]

I have played a lot of times and always end up losing. I continue to lose all because I was devoting more time for gambling until I realised this won't work. I wasn't only spending more time on gambling, I was also having different ideas in a way I can minimise losses and maximise profits but all were not successful until I realised betting is not about playing all the time but just a luck and Playing for fun. I played football gambling and little of others but what I know generally about gambling is that the more you devote time for it and play it more the more you can start to lose, the beginning can seem profitable but the later part can be other way.

[RILWAN]

Dice script is not the best if you are looking to play dice I will advise you just play for fun but having millions winning at heart may frustrate your efforts since dice is a luck-based game.

[ipanks]

Playing gambling using the same amount every day is a good idea but if we want to test a script or use a bot to find the right setting is not easy because we need to prepare some amounts that we will use and we do not know when we can get the correct setting for that script.

Maybe what you did can work successfully someday but until that day, how many amounts you will use and how good you can accept the risk. I am not good with math but I am curious how long you will get the correct setting and I can only wish that you will get what you want someday.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Dice script is not the best if you are looking to play dice I will advise you just play for fun but having millions winning at heart may frustrate your efforts since dice is a luck-based game.

I think the OP is very well aware of what a dice game is all about and the risks associated with it. The thing is, he believes his calculations show that it will pay off to use a martingale but up to 15 wins / loses in a row.
Personally, I think that it can not change much, because even after changing your betting after 15 rolls, the risk starts again and the result may end up even worse.

[AicecreaME]

Using script is not profitable in the long run, that's why you need to always upgrade it so that you can maintain your winnings, it's not that easy because as you've said, you need to run million of simulation to find out if the script you've made is indeed effective. DICE or even flip coin won't be merely defeated by a certain algorithm because that game is random, a luck base game.

[chaser15]

Since the martingale system was a no go, I decided to use another pattern which to my surprize performed much better than the martingale.
Then I ran a couple million simulations and found that the max loss in a row rarely exceeds 15, so I decided to take the loss at 16 losses. And with a bit of luck you will earn the money back.

Still, you don't know if, on the 17th bet, you will have a winning bet. How did you able to make a million simulations? Regardless, a chance is a chance, and with that simulation of yours, did you consider applying the different house of a dice site?

On what dice sites where did you apply the test currently?

If you think that's a good use for you, then good luck and hope for you to gather more profits in the future.

[pawanjain]

But, I decided to use a dicebot and run it for fun and after 1 million bets the bankroll went bust several times.
So I made a script using tampermonkey that saves all the earnings in a vault so that when it eventually went bust the winnings would not be affected, meaning the bankroll always stays the same and you can never lose your earnings.

This is the part that I doubt. How can it even be possible that you never lose your earnings in gambling.
If you went bust then you lose your money but you say that the winnings would not be affected.
Could you please be more precise and shine some light on this part.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

But, I decided to use a dicebot and run it for fun and after 1 million bets the bankroll went bust several times.
So I made a script using tampermonkey that saves all the earnings in a vault so that when it eventually went bust the winnings would not be affected, meaning the bankroll always stays the same and you can never lose your earnings.

This is the part that I doubt. How can it even be possible that you never lose your earnings in gambling.
If you went bust then you lose your money but you say that the winnings would not be affected.
Could you please be more precise and shine some light on this part.

Yes, it didn't make sense to me too. After all, it is impossible to be sure how long we will be winning or losing. If the bankroll runs out, the bot will simply stop working. And later we will have to recharge it manually anyway. Then, after all, we have to take funds that were previously secured.

[Obito]

Using script is not profitable in the long run, that's why you need to always upgrade it so that you can maintain your winnings, it's not that easy because as you've said, you need to run million of simulation to find out if the script you've made is indeed effective. DICE or even flip coin won't be merely defeated by a certain algorithm because that game is random, a luck base game.

It's not that bad of a project though, but you're right that it's a difficult one but with the advancements of the technology, I think that we will soon be able to get close to accurately predicting what's going to happen next and hopefully get the right answer, there are only six sides to a dice so it's not that difficult for us to program a somewhat accurate prediction. Also, does OP have a proof of his work just to show what's the current status of the system?

[Mauser]

Sounds like a decent trading strategy. You are right that a martingale strategy can fail over time and is not a guarantee for winning. I just wondering did you actually start betting with your strategy or is it just paper simulations?
Saving your earnings seperate from your bankroll is a good approach to avoid going bankrupt and losing all money to start again. I just wonder how much money you made on average per day and how many times did you actually lose your 150 doge coin? Both pattern analysis and martingale are no winning strategy. In the long run the casinos has its house edge. So the longer we play and the more games we have the higher the chances to go bust. Its important to keep the potential winnings in mind compared to the total bankroll. Having a chance to win 20% with the risk of losing it all is not great.

[bering]

I can't imagine you ran couple million simulations to get the best dice script to increase your winning chance but i was wondering does you did it with several kind of dice sites or you were stick to one dice sites only while simulated it because probably dice formula between other sites will not same and some people used to using dice script to get profit but most of those scripts never works for long run

[Peanutswar]

If this kind of strategy is gives you a profitable game i guess its good to continue but i guess its too hard to trust with the system its still a random generated by the developers, also another thing is how much do you wage per day?. because not all the time those algorithms gives you a good outcome its better if you make a spreadsheet of your income and wage per day so many of us see if this might be a good thing too.

[Darker45]

With your long post, you still haven't told us even a little about your dice strategy. So, what is it really? I'm more interested about it than the amounts. It doesn't matter how much we could use as a starting bet or how much bankroll we could use on a daily basis. Just tell us first what the strategy is and perhaps we could analyze its probability a little.

For now, this looks nothing but a way to build up something in order to solicit investment from credulous individuals.

[adzino]

Not sure what you are trying to sell here, but no scripts or strategies in the long run will help you make profit. The house has an edge and will always win. And your calculations are wrong. You will still be losing money even if you move your winnings to a "vault" and keep playing with your initial funds, because you will be losing from your initial funds and before your profit becomes equivalent to the initial deposit, you might end up losing your money. And since you found a "way" to have a maximum loss of 15 (lol), then just use that strategy yourself.

[stomachgrowls]

With your long post, you still haven't told us even a little about your dice strategy. So, what is it really? I'm more interested about it than the amounts. It doesn't matter how much we could use as a starting bet or how much bankroll we could use on a daily basis. Just tell us first what the strategy is and perhaps we could analyze its probability a little.

For now, this looks nothing but a way to build up something in order to solicit investment from credulous individuals.

Have some the same impressions too about on this one on which this one is trying out to solicit investments on indirect manner which im saying that it would really be not appealing on that intent.

Doesn't matter if you do have big or small capital because dice game do matters with luck. You might be saying that you are profitable and does have some working strategy but totally its just that you are being lucky.

[Coin_trader]

I understand that you have done the initial calculations, but you need someone to confirm it?
You talk about millions of rolls, but in the end you ask about someone to write an autoscript.
Does this mean that you have been doing all these millionth simulations manually until now?

He already has a script using tamper monkey if you follow what he is saying. He just want someone to help him on experimenting and developing the script he already started since he is not good on math(self admitted). He is not asking for confirmation but rather a helping hands to develop together.


I understand the sentiments here since you are claiming you develop a new strategy but in reality its still the same because you will still get and used your save profit to play more once your original bankroll is bust. You just prolonged your gameplay but that doesn't mean you escape the possibility to have a multiple bust in a row until your bank roll and vault depleted.