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December 20, 2021, 04:28:59 AM
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If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?

Bitcointalk has had many notable people and I presume their older posts would have significant demand.

Could also help in forum's funding, if needed.

Wdy think?

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December 20, 2021, 04:31:32 AM
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The forum doesn't own user posts, they're the property of the entity that wrote them.

If someone wanted to find a post, get permission from the poster and then sell it as an nft they could (whether the demand would be there might be different).
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December 20, 2021, 04:48:16 AM
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I'm pretty sure Bitcointalk doesn't need extra funding. If Theymos wanted to make NFTs based on Bitcointalk historical posts(the hodl post, Satoshi posts, etc) and use the funds to support a charity/cause though, I' pretty sure it could be successful.

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December 20, 2021, 04:53:31 AM
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If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?

Bitcointalk has had many notable people and I presume their older posts would have significant demand.

Could also help in forum's funding, if needed.

Wdy think?

This forum is open to all. While no one will ever stop them from creating NFT for thier own posts like Satoshi's post or Laszlo's pizza post, I'm not sure how is it going to make a difference since anyone can still view or read that thread.

The point of NFT is to make it like you are the owner of the art and non can shut it unless you have the keys. If you have an NFT of Laszlo post and Laszlo suddenly decides to login and edit his post, what's going to happen to you NFT?


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Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly. You can no longer click on it, you can't copy-paste it, or quote it. It completely disappears from the face of the earth (Internet) and can only be found in the buyer's Ethereum wallet. This really is the future and I am wondering why Bitcointalk is getting themselves involved!?

I am considering recording my voice while moaning loudly. It's going to be an incredible collection worth millions. There will of course be a discount and special rates for Bitcointalk users.

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December 20, 2021, 08:22:05 AM
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Wdy think?
Hopefully this would be possible when NFTs are created on bitcoin blockchain. This forum is about bitcoin, not ethereum or other altcoin projects that are now supporting NFTs.

Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly. You can no longer click on it, you can't copy-paste it, or quote it. It completely disappears from the face of the earth (Internet) and can only be found in the buyer's Ethereum wallet.
I am confused. I think it is the token (NFT) private key that will be for and protected by the owner as the owner of the token. The pictures or posts would be publicly available as it is now.

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December 20, 2021, 08:32:07 AM
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Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly. You can no longer click on it, you can't copy-paste it, or quote it. It completely disappears from the face of the earth (Internet) and can only be found in the buyer's Ethereum wallet.

"According to "Valuables," the tweet itself will "continue to live on Twitter," but the winning bidder would own the NFT, "signed and verified by the creator," like a virtual autograph. - cnbc

I assume similar would be applicable to this forum and posts will continue to live on bitcointalk.

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The pictures or posts would be publicly available as it is now.
I assume similar would be applicable to this forum and posts will continue to live on bitcointalk.
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December 20, 2021, 08:52:20 AM
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Could also help in forum's funding, if needed.

Wdy think?

I don't think that the forum needs this for funding. It's not poor and it also have its pretty good ways of getting more funds.
On the other hand, doing this would look like endorsing/supporting NFTs and maybe even certain NFT platform. I don't think that such a move would be good on long term.

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NFT's in the most part seem a lot like going to the park in the city where the air is supposedly cleaner, bottling it, and selling it to people that are rushing to work in their cars. Why on earth someone would want to own a Bitcointalk post, that someone else wrote just doesn't make much sense.

NFT's have their uses I suppose, but Bitcointalk posts aren't that. NFT's are just being abused, and overused for a means of making money. It'll fade away given enough time. It does make you laugh though, that someone that's free, and open to all is now being peddled as something that's exclusive, and worth something, like Twitter posts. A bit ridiculous really, especially considering most Bitcoin users would have once upon a time liked the idea that its decentralised.

Anyway, Bitcointalk posts as NFTs? Nah, not going to happen.
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If you're curious how high people's interest is in nft bitcointalk posts. Some time ago I came across this nft "artist", and you can see he is trying to sell Satoshi's welcome post on this forum. Looks like it hasn't been sold yet. Maybe because marketing factors affect, or basically forum posts are not interesting to be used as nft.

By the way, is this user violating copyright?

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NFT's in the most part seem a lot like going to the park in the city where the air is supposedly cleaner, bottling it, and selling it to people that are rushing to work in their cars. Why on earth someone would want to own a Bitcointalk post, that someone else wrote just doesn't make much sense.

NFT's have their uses I suppose, but Bitcointalk posts aren't that. NFT's are just being abused, and overused for a means of making money. It'll fade away given enough time. It does make you laugh though, that someone that's free, and open to all is now being peddled as something that's exclusive, and worth something, like Twitter posts. A bit ridiculous really, especially considering most Bitcoin users would have once upon a time liked the idea that its decentralised.

Anyway, Bitcointalk posts as NFTs? Nah, not going to happen.

Hey, I think it's pointless as well, but if some rich dudes that has too much money wants to bid it up it and the money ends up going to a good cause, then I'm all for it. It's not like they're going to get scammed or something; they totally know what they're getting when paying for an NFT.

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December 20, 2021, 02:13:42 PM
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By the way, is this user violating copyright?
I would say they are and only the copyright owner can market the art they created and if you want to do so, you'll need their permission. However, in this case, Satoshi is no longer on the forum and no one can seek permission from him, so I'm not perfectly sure of the laws about it and who one would need to seek permission from.

If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?
The scope of NFTs is so broad now and probably abused, but it is perfectly possible to put up a bitcointalk post for sale, whether anyone would or should buy is another topic.

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December 20, 2021, 02:21:46 PM
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I don't know what I'm trying to say about the NFT you're talking about, but if the goal is to help fund the forum, I don't think NFT is necessary. NFT is the new hype where we can see it as too high and too expensive (in some cases) but I don't think forums need NFT just to get funding. If the forum really wants to capitalize on the hype, then we currently have token or coin in its name on the market with fundraising through ICOs, IEOs and so on. But it looks like forum can skip all that because I don't think income is one of the main goals of this forum.

So far the forum has source of revenue from advertising to pay moderators but if indeed the forum needs more funding then I think admins can think of more great things than NFT which I think will only last a while. I know NFT is fine if someone wants to do it, but who's going to buy someone else's reasonable post for a great price?

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December 20, 2021, 02:54:58 PM
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I think the whole thing about these NTFs is so pointless that it's not clear to me who and why is paying a few hundred thousand $ for something that looks like it was drawn by a 3 year old child? The idea of someone monetizing forum members' posts in this way is even more absurd, because they would have to seek the consent of the owners of those same posts for such things - and I'm sure not everyone would agree.

Besides, this is not the first idea that came up when it comes to the NTF and the forum.

Bitcointalk NFT tokens

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This reminded me of that $69 million worth of that painting, Beeple, although it is not something drawn by a 3 year old child but it is only a digital art that you usually saw around the internet and is just being categorized as NFTs.
Well if what you said keeps happening, I can only imagine someone downloading random image in any image hosting website, doing some photoshop into it, and publishing it in the internet with cost of thousand bucks.

My source: Beeple sold an NFT for $69 million
Nice price, I just noticed lol.
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December 20, 2021, 04:44:52 PM
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Bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, Bitcointalk didn't create it's own Fork, Bitcointalk doesn't join the Defi-hype and Bitcointalk sure as hell won't join the latest money making scheme called NFT.
Months ago I saw a good picture explaining it in WO, but I can't find it back. Something like: NFT means you don't own something, you can't take it home and you can't stop others from using it, but if you go to one specific made-up blockchain, it will tell you it's yours. That's BS. Bottled air is more real!



That being said, if anyone is dumb enough to offer Bitcoin to get a made-up token on a made-up chain that makes them think they own my posts: feel free to make me an offer! Bidding starts at 69BTC.

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December 20, 2021, 05:23:28 PM
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Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly. You can no longer click on it, you can't copy-paste it, or quote it. It completely disappears from the face of the earth (Internet) and can only be found in the buyer's Ethereum wallet.

I like this. Can we NFT all scams and the Press board?
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December 20, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
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Whoever didn't know it, NFTs were a thing in bitcoin long before they gain this name; they just didn't get enough interest: Colored Coins.

If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?
To be honest, I haven't understood why should tweets be sold in the first place. Wanna give me one reason?

Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly.
This is not true unless both the seller and buyer agree not to which never happens. The buyer mysteriously seems willing to re-sell it in a higher price than the one they bought it and uploads it on every NFT marketplace.

However, the purpose of NFTs isn't about the content, but the rights of it.

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December 20, 2021, 08:38:09 PM
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Bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, Bitcointalk didn't create it's own Fork, Bitcointalk doesn't join the Defi-hype and Bitcointalk sure as hell won't join the latest money making scheme called NFT.
Months ago I saw a good picture explaining it in WO, but I can't find it back. Something like: NFT means you don't own something, you can't take it home and you can't stop others from using it, but if you go to one specific made-up blockchain, it will tell you it's yours. That's BS. Bottled air is more real!

No, bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, it just advertised them for money.  It didn't create it's own fork, it just censored the ones others worked on.  It didn't join the DeFi-hype, it left millions of dollars in unclaimed HEX on the table.  Not entering the NFT space would be no less destructive than the other decisions listed here.  Especially if L2 is supposed to be the way forward.  NFTs are the most functional and useful thing that has entered the crypto space in a long time and NFTs in gaming might be Bitcoin's first real use case that anyone outside of finance would give a shit about...  You either get it or you don't.  You clearly don't and that's ok.  Innovation isn't for everyone.  Right click and save, am I right?  Cheesy

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