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Author Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match  (Read 3619 times)
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At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight

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At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight
Everything would be settled inside the ring as always and the best boxer would really end up on winning the fight.Some do even say that Ugas was underrated too
and slowly up gaining some noise on boxing industry and it all started when he do able to beat Pacquiao which is a huge stepping stone for him to be recognized.
Some people or boxing fans had been also anticipating for some another upset on this fight.

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March 11, 2022, 08:50:16 PM
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At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight
Everything would be settled inside the ring as always and the best boxer would really end up on winning the fight.Some do even say that Ugas was underrated too
and slowly up gaining some noise on boxing industry and it all started when he do able to beat Pacquiao which is a huge stepping stone for him to be recognized.
Some people or boxing fans had been also anticipating for some another upset on this fight.

Upset will not happen anymore unless Spence would have trouble in the ring as Pacman had during their fight with Ugas. however, I think it will only happen on rare occasions so I still believe that the better fighter will win and that is Spence. Ugas has to prepare harder because he cannot use his lenght against Spence who is very aggressive and have power in both hands.



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 #444

At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight
Everything would be settled inside the ring as always and the best boxer would really end up on winning the fight.Some do even say that Ugas was underrated too
and slowly up gaining some noise on boxing industry and it all started when he do able to beat Pacquiao which is a huge stepping stone for him to be recognized.
Some people or boxing fans had been also anticipating for some another upset on this fight.

Upset will not happen anymore unless Spence would have trouble in the ring as Pacman had during their fight with Ugas. however, I think it will only happen on rare occasions so I still believe that the better fighter will win and that is Spence. Ugas has to prepare harder because he cannot use his lenght against Spence who is very aggressive and have power in both hands.
Reach or length is an advantage which he do need to utilize for his advantage but its true that it would be pointless or something useless when you fight an aggressive fighter.
Upset is unlikely but we know that chances or odds could really happen but Ugas should really need to push up that hard because this isnt something that he could pull easily.
Of course Spence wouldnt really let that thing to happen.

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March 11, 2022, 11:44:50 PM
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At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight
Everything would be settled inside the ring as always and the best boxer would really end up on winning the fight.Some do even say that Ugas was underrated too
and slowly up gaining some noise on boxing industry and it all started when he do able to beat Pacquiao which is a huge stepping stone for him to be recognized.
Some people or boxing fans had been also anticipating for some another upset on this fight.

Upset will not happen anymore unless Spence would have trouble in the ring as Pacman had during their fight with Ugas. however, I think it will only happen on rare occasions so I still believe that the better fighter will win and that is Spence. Ugas has to prepare harder because he cannot use his lenght against Spence who is very aggressive and have power in both hands.
Reach or length is an advantage which he do need to utilize for his advantage but its true that it would be pointless or something useless when you fight an aggressive fighter.
Upset is unlikely but we know that chances or odds could really happen but Ugas should really need to push up that hard because this isnt something that he could pull easily.
Of course Spence wouldnt really let that thing to happen.

Spence is different with Pacquaio is different since we can say that he's out of his prime and there are so many distraction on his trainings since he is running for higher office that's why he'd attention is split plus there's a sudden changes of opponent that's why Ugas have advantage since Pacquaio didn't prepared for their match up. But know since Spence is totally prepared I think this is though match for Ugas and for sure he will get a hard time defeating spence as this fighter still on his prime.

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March 11, 2022, 11:57:18 PM
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Upset will not happen anymore unless Spence would have trouble in the ring as Pacman had during their fight with Ugas. however, I think it will only happen on rare occasions so I still believe that the better fighter will win and that is Spence. Ugas has to prepare harder because he cannot use his lenght against Spence who is very aggressive and have power in both hands.


Ugas can't use that advantage since Spence is also big and unlike Pacquiao, Spence is still young with his speed and his aggressiveness

are still intact on him, compared to Manny, who's already aging and all of that was concluded after the fight with Ugas. We will see

if how hard the preparation both fighters have taken. Once they step inside the ring, the best fighter will shine and will win the fight

both have their respective fans and all them wanted to see entertaining fight coming from these two defending title holders.
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Spence is different with Pacquaio is different since we can say that he's out of his prime and there are so many distraction on his trainings since he is running for higher office that's why he'd attention is split plus there's a sudden changes of opponent that's why Ugas have advantage since Pacquaio didn't prepared for their match up. But know since Spence is totally prepared I think this is though match for Ugas and for sure he will get a hard time defeating spence as this fighter still on his prime.
Yep, there's so many difference between Pacquiao and Spence, we can't compare the past result of Ugas vs Pacquiao to predict Ugas vs Spence. Even Ugas will train more harder than previous, it won't change really much since I've saw most boxer performance is similar with their previous match. This match is kind of cherry pick from Spence, he know Crawford is the one who can beat him.

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March 12, 2022, 04:54:07 AM
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At least in this case it can be used even if it's a little, Ugas is a strong fighter with complex abilities, But Spence is more than imagined.
Lowering your concentration against such a great boxer is a stupid thing to do and here of course Ugas and Spence won't do that.
Now is the proof that must be done so that when the match is over there will be no regrets
As a boxing fan then we would be wishing to see a good fight on where both boxers do giving out their best of their performance and we know that in every sport there would be only 1 winner unless if there would be

some draw which is really unlikely to happen most of the time.Spence is hard to be beaten up and some do even conclude already just because of some triangle kind of analysis which it isnt accurate most of the time.

We dont know on what are their preparations behind whether it would be effective against their current opponent or not.
Of course in a fight there must be one person who has to be the winner because it will not be fun if the fight goes with a draw in it and this will not benefit the fighters.
Spence is one of the strongest boxers right now but as you said, Strength alone is not enough because there has to be a good Strategy in it too.
Both boxers definitely have their own Strategy and we won't know until we can see their fight
Everything would be settled inside the ring as always and the best boxer would really end up on winning the fight.Some do even say that Ugas was underrated too
and slowly up gaining some noise on boxing industry and it all started when he do able to beat Pacquiao which is a huge stepping stone for him to be recognized.
Some people or boxing fans had been also anticipating for some another upset on this fight.

Upset will not happen anymore unless Spence would have trouble in the ring as Pacman had during their fight with Ugas. however, I think it will only happen on rare occasions so I still believe that the better fighter will win and that is Spence. Ugas has to prepare harder because he cannot use his lenght against Spence who is very aggressive and have power in both hands.

We will never really know until we see them fight in the ring. Upset can really happen not just in boxing but in any other sports. Of course Spence will be the favorite and will try to live with that. But who knows, maybe he woke up that day in the wrong side of the bed, ring rust affected him or his eye still bother him. Only when we see them square off and hurting each other that we will see the full extend of the fight before we can say that upset will not happen with certainty.

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March 12, 2022, 04:56:39 AM
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Spence is different with Pacquaio is different since we can say that he's out of his prime and there are so many distraction on his trainings since he is running for higher office that's why he'd attention is split plus there's a sudden changes of opponent that's why Ugas have advantage since Pacquaio didn't prepared for their match up. But know since Spence is totally prepared I think this is though match for Ugas and for sure he will get a hard time defeating spence as this fighter still on his prime.
Yep, there's so many difference between Pacquiao and Spence, we can't compare the past result of Ugas vs Pacquiao to predict Ugas vs Spence. Even Ugas will train more harder than previous, it won't change really much since I've saw most boxer performance is similar with their previous match. This match is kind of cherry pick from Spence, he know Crawford is the one who can beat him.

As the saying goes, style makes fight, so we only know how Spence and Ugas style are going to clash. Could it be that one of them will totally dominate the other one because of their style. Their previous fight is just a preview to us how the fight will go base on our analysis. So I agree that we can't compare the style of Pacquiao and Spence. Ugas will have to adjust against Spence style if he wanted to win.

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Yep, there's so many difference between Pacquiao and Spence, we can't compare the past result of Ugas vs Pacquiao to predict Ugas vs Spence.

I don't see any similarities between Pacquiao and Spence even though Spence is a generation of professional boxers with some identical punches to Pacquiao but it's not worth claiming stylistic similarities to the boxing ring.

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Even Ugas will train more harder than previous, it won't change really much since I've saw most boxer performance is similar with their previous match. This match is kind of cherry pick from Spence, he know Crawford is the one who can beat him.
Although there are not many changes in each match because they maintain the aesthetics of their distinct fighting style, they will train hard for the strategy of manipulating punches that the opponent cannot predict; PPV boxing matches are always full of surprises and we will see something new in the fight for the championship belt.

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I guess the car crash is really eye opener for him, or maybe it just really hardened him up because if he can beat that car crash and come back in boxing and win against one of the toughest fighter in that division (Shawn Porter), then he has the confidence that he can beat everyone else even Manny although he just to beat another injury (eye). Now he is going to face Ugas. And we see him as the favorite again, so he will do everything to continue his undefeated record and then look for the biggest fight in the division next.

Damn his body recovery. Almost beaten badly by the car crash and was almost on the verge of death but now, looks like there's no sign that he suffers a big accident. In some cases, these people will end up just resting but look at Spence, still fighting on his usual.

But honestly, that was good that Spence showed like that since no turning back for his opponent.

We, as fans, want to see both giving their 100% on this fight. It's a big title match at stake here.

A big one that will bring your name on top. After this, the winner can call for Crawford and take every title in this division.

I would love to see Spence and Crawford though, something that fans wanted to see just like how Pacquiao and Mayweather back then.

This would be another title match that will gain huge attentions from both fans and gamblers.

Let see first if Spence will win this fight against Ugas before we talk further with the next possible fight.


The winner will certainly be Errol Spence, however, I disagree that he will be calling Terence Crawford's name after the victory. Spence might be using Floyd Mayweather's tactic where he will say no on an opportunity to fight the best to make the present offers increase on the next offer. Mayweather said no to Manny Pacquiao more than 2 times to increase the offer before he said yes hehehe.

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March 12, 2022, 07:27:13 AM
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I guess the car crash is really eye opener for him, or maybe it just really hardened him up because if he can beat that car crash and come back in boxing and win against one of the toughest fighter in that division (Shawn Porter), then he has the confidence that he can beat everyone else even Manny although he just to beat another injury (eye). Now he is going to face Ugas. And we see him as the favorite again, so he will do everything to continue his undefeated record and then look for the biggest fight in the division next.

Damn his body recovery. Almost beaten badly by the car crash and was almost on the verge of death but now, looks like there's no sign that he suffers a big accident. In some cases, these people will end up just resting but look at Spence, still fighting on his usual.

But honestly, that was good that Spence showed like that since no turning back for his opponent.

We, as fans, want to see both giving their 100% on this fight. It's a big title match at stake here.

A big one that will bring your name on top. After this, the winner can call for Crawford and take every title in this division.

I would love to see Spence and Crawford though, something that fans wanted to see just like how Pacquiao and Mayweather back then.

This would be another title match that will gain huge attentions from both fans and gamblers.

Let see first if Spence will win this fight against Ugas before we talk further with the next possible fight.


The winner will certainly be Errol Spence, however, I disagree that he will be calling Terence Crawford's name after the victory. Spence might be using Floyd Mayweather's tactic where he will say no on an opportunity to fight the best to make the present offers increase on the next offer. Mayweather said no to Manny Pacquiao more than 2 times to increase the offer before he said yes hehehe.

Possible, but who will be his next opponent after Ugas? Only Keith Thurman is the viable boxer the rest he either beaten already so doesn't have the hype to have the money being offered in the table.

So it could backfire on Spence if he will not call Crawford and let him fight Kieth Thurman. And him fighting another fighter who is not a champion, sort of a get busy fight for him.

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March 12, 2022, 12:48:31 PM
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The winner will certainly be Errol Spence, however, I disagree that he will be calling Terence Crawford's name after the victory. Spence might be using Floyd Mayweather's tactic where he will say no on an opportunity to fight the best to make the present offers increase on the next offer. Mayweather said no to Manny Pacquiao more than 2 times to increase the offer before he said yes hehehe.

I doubt that's the same case with Spence and Crawford. These 2 are nowhere to be near the expected offer given to Mayweather and Pacquiao. They are also nowhere near the popularity of these 2 boxing greats. Spence should not be arrogant to just keep silent and disagree with everything if he won the fight against Ugas. It's only Crawford that is left to unify all the titles at 147.

If Spence will keep on disagreeing with the call to fight Crawford, he will just be forgotten. Different from Pacquiao and Mayweather's impact on the community that even takes several years in the making, many still watch the fight.
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March 12, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
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The winner will certainly be Errol Spence, however, I disagree that he will be calling Terence Crawford's name after the victory. Spence might be using Floyd Mayweather's tactic where he will say no on an opportunity to fight the best to make the present offers increase on the next offer. Mayweather said no to Manny Pacquiao more than 2 times to increase the offer before he said yes hehehe.

I doubt that's the same case with Spence and Crawford. These 2 are nowhere to be near the expected offer given to Mayweather and Pacquiao. They are also nowhere near the popularity of these 2 boxing greats. Spence should not be arrogant to just keep silent and disagree with everything if he won the fight against Ugas. It's only Crawford that is left to unify all the titles at 147.

If Spence will keep on disagreeing with the call to fight Crawford, he will just be forgotten. Different from Pacquiao and Mayweather's impact on the community that even takes several years in the making, many still watch the fight.

Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

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March 12, 2022, 02:58:34 PM
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

I think the main concern relies on the purse split why Spence seems to avoid Crawford. A 50-50 split is not making sense for Spence.

The reason? Between him and Crawford, the former seems the one that will make the possible fight profitable. He is a much-considered King of PPV compared to Crawford and that was proven already.

Maybe a 60-40 should be fine but I don't know if Crawford will like that idea.

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March 12, 2022, 03:18:18 PM
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

I think the main concern relies on the purse split why Spence seems to avoid Crawford. A 50-50 split is not making sense for Spence.

The reason? Between him and Crawford, the former seems the one that will make the possible fight profitable. He is a much-considered King of PPV compared to Crawford and that was proven already.

Maybe a 60-40 should be fine but I don't know if Crawford will like that idea.

Yes, that's one point of contention between the two, it's a super fight but someone needs to be the A-Side and Spence thinks he bring in more in terms of PPV numbers are Crawford according to him does not have the crowd drawing power. But let's see how it pan out, if money is in the table, for sure they can't ignore it any longer so they really need to fight maybe at the latter part of the year.

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March 12, 2022, 03:19:52 PM
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

Exactly, too much speculations but the real score will be unfold when the battle is going on inside the ring. Let's see how Spence will going to handle the fight against Ugas and hopefully a Crawford vs. Spence battle will be given a chance to happen in the near future. But as of now, let's focus on what is the scheduled fight and let's witness who's from the two great fighter will be the winner. Well, it's undeniable that Spence really win the heart of many boxer fans.
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

Exactly, too much speculations but the real score will be unfold when the battle is going on inside the ring. Let's see how Spence will going to handle the fight against Ugas and hopefully a Crawford vs. Spence battle will be given a chance to happen in the near future. But as of now, let's focus on what is the scheduled fight and let's witness who's from the two great fighter will be the winner. Well, it's undeniable that Spence really win the heart of many boxer fans.

Spence seems to have not shown his interest when he was challenged by Crawford. I guess when Crawford challenges him, Crawford is still working with the Top Rank, but now that he promotes himself, maybe they can adjust the purse sharing just to make this awaited fight happen.

But you are right, let's wait first for the outcome of this fight.
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

Exactly, too much speculations but the real score will be unfold when the battle is going on inside the ring. Let's see how Spence will going to handle the fight against Ugas and hopefully a Crawford vs. Spence battle will be given a chance to happen in the near future. But as of now, let's focus on what is the scheduled fight and let's witness who's from the two great fighter will be the winner. Well, it's undeniable that Spence really win the heart of many boxer fans.

Spence seems to have not shown his interest when he was challenged by Crawford. I guess when Crawford challenges him, Crawford is still working with the Top Rank, but now that he promotes himself, maybe they can adjust the purse sharing just to make this awaited fight happen.

Yes, the fight can easily be made right now since Crawford manages himself. Hmm, I just thinking, maybe this is a bait for Crawford though, what if Spence will fight him but he needs to join Al Haymon and PBC?

But you are right, let's wait first for the outcome of this fight.

Anyhow, this fight is going to happen and it all depends on the outcome, if Spence win then maybe he will call out Crawford or maybe he will ask by a reporter about the potential fight and see what his response will be.
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March 12, 2022, 04:12:54 PM
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Anyhow, this fight is going to happen and it all depends on the outcome, if Spence win then maybe he will call out Crawford or maybe he will ask by a reporter about the potential fight and see what his response will be.

I think he does not have to do that as Crawford already called him, he just needs to answer that call. Since that is going to be the biggest fight in the division, maybe there's a lot of discussions that will have to be done before they can finalize the fight. These champions They have to agree with the terms in order to make this happen, if one is greedy enough then no doubt no fight will be realize.

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