Christmas not Xmas.

[Rruchi man]

It is understandable when you don't believe in Christ and simply say "Happy Holidays", but you need correction as a believer in Christ if you say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas".

 Generally, "X" is a letter used to make an indication that something is unknown, Christ is the reason for the season, so why do you a believer in Christ say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas" when you already know the reason behind the christmas celebration?
Why have you replaced "Christ" with "X"?
 

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[OgNasty]

It is understandable when you don't believe in Christ and simply say "Happy Holidays", but you need correction as a believer in Christ if you say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas".

 Generally, "X" is a letter used to make an indication that something is unknown, Christ is the reason for the season, so why do you a believer in Christ say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas" when you already know the reason behind the christmas celebration?
Why have you replaced "Christ" with "X"?

People started writing it because it's faster I think and has nothing to do with the Holidays vs Christmas aspect which is PC to include everyone.  I don't hear people saying "Happy Xmas" instead of "Merry Christmas" ever though.  If people don't want to acknowledge the holiday as a Christian event they typically say "Happy Holidays" with some companies even making employees refer to this time of year only as such.  Some people get pretty offended over the entire thing, which I would argue is against the spirit of things, but people will complain about anything if given the opportunity to do so. 

[Rizzrack]

It's just like "OK"
OK is the short version of "oll korrect" which was the funny version of "all correct".
https://www.history.com/news/the-birth-of-ok-175-years-ago

So yeah...
Happy Xmas  

[franky1]

lol... oops i meant Laugh Out Loud.

here is the thing. the english language is a thing of beauty. you do not need to be grammatically correct all the time to get the context of the message across. in london alone there are many variations. cockney is the most noticeable.

so when you are talking to someone on the dog and bone (phone) or writing on SOCIAL media or to a friend, where by its not a legal document or a scholars dissertation, you do not need to worry or care about acting like a posh elitist english lecturer.

christmas is not a word that was used 2000 years ago.
infact if what you call jesus christ was alive, he would spell his name משיח יֵשׁוּעַ
so if you want to be precise you would be asking people to say משיח instead of christ.

or if you dont want to be factually accurate to pre-100AD hebrew and want to be a bit closer to english. try Crīstesmæsse which is about 1100AD

oh and what we in english call Christ. is messiah in other languages. so you better start saying messiah mass

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well this has been a fun distraction topic away from bitcoin.
have a great xmas

[Gyfts]

Is "Xmas" part of the broader attack on Christmas I keep hearing about from Christians?

"Happy holidays" may be too inflammatory for the Christians, they insist on you saying "Merry Christmas," anything other than that phrase is to be insensitive towards any believers in Christ.

Now "Xmas" is apparently under that umbrella. The Christians are the victims from this verbal abuse.

[Masplanc]

I think people normally use Xmas  because it's short and easy to write when typing.  Calling Xmas everyone knows it refers to Christmas.. I can say X is used to abbreviate Christmas.  Christmas is the main thing though ,that have meaning . That's why people prefer Calling it full. People see Xmas like not having any meaning.

[Cnut237]

It is understandable when you don't believe in Christ and simply say "Happy Holidays", but you need correction as a believer in Christ if you say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas".

 Generally, "X" is a letter used to make an indication that something is unknown, Christ is the reason for the season, so why do you a believer in Christ say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas" when you already know the reason behind the christmas celebration?
Why have you replaced "Christ" with "X"?
 

The 'X' comes from chi. It's not that it's something unknown, it's an abbreviation.

X represents the Greek letter chi, the initial letter in the word Xριστός (Chrīstos).

Chi followed by Rho (the first two letters of 'Christ' in Greek, see above) is a very old Christian symbol. So maybe if we wanted a slightly longer abbreviation, we could have Xpmas instead?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christogram

I don't hear people saying "Happy Xmas" instead of "Merry Christmas" ever though.

Maybe Xmas should be pronounced Chi-mas?

[franky1]

X is also a cross.. hmm.. and what shape was the thing that jesus was pinned to...... ooo yea a cross

so yea even a cross is actually 'on theme' for the season of celebration

[cmg777]

For the hell of it I wonder what XXXMas is??? 

[franky1]

For the hell of it I wonder what XXXMas is??? 

if your married for more then 7 years, its the day your wife actually wants to make love to you.
if your married under 7 years, its xxxmas many times a week
if your single. your probably just watching porn

[Maestro75]

lol... oops i meant Laugh Out Loud.

here is the thing. the english language is a thing of beauty. you do not need to be grammatically correct all the time to get the context of the message across. in london alone there are many variations. cockney is the most noticeable.

so when you are talking to someone on the dog and bone (phone) or writing on SOCIAL media or to a friend, where by its not a legal document or a scholars dissertation, you do not need to worry or care about acting like a posh elitist english lecturer.

I do find your style of writing fascinating, I mean with the lack of capital letter to begin a sentence. It is unconventional and somehow cuts you out as different. I like that. And I think people should express themselves how they please as here is not a formal citadel of learning. Going back to what OP said, he should know that Xmas is just a way to make Christmas shorter and quicker to spell. It is a fun way and should not be taken as a bad thing. Both means the same thing but Xmas should be used for informal discussions while the other is for formal.

[lumbanrang]

It is understandable when you don't believe in Christ and simply say "Happy Holidays", but you need correction as a believer in Christ if you say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas".

 Generally, "X" is a letter used to make an indication that something is unknown, Christ is the reason for the season, so why do you a believer in Christ say "Happy Xmas" instead of "Happy Christmas" when you already know the reason behind the christmas celebration?
Why have you replaced "Christ" with "X"?
 

those who spread Xmas are just a bunch who don't believe that today is the birth of Lord Jesus. maybe a bunch of atheists spread it LOL

[LTU_btc]

Personally, I always write Christmas, but I wouldn't make big deal about people who write Xmas. For some people probably it's just more convenient and it's not formal document when everything must be written correctly. And after all, not all people who using this word are religious.
By the way, remember old phones before touchscreen era. People were typing w instead of v just because it's faster. So, maybe using Xmas instead of Christmas is just old habbits.

[Smartvirus]

those who spread Xmas are just a bunch who don't believe that today is the birth of Lord Jesus. maybe a bunch of atheists spread it LOL

I don't get it.
Is it that, those who spell th3 words 'Christmas' are a more better individuals religious wise than those who abbreviate them words as 'X-Mas' becuase, I would strongly doubt that. The way one writes has got little or nothing to do with what makes you a more concerned individual about your neighbour. It all lies in your conscience and sense of responsibility to whom you serve.

'X' being a notation for an unknown, so also is 'Y' and even 'Z' as they are the popular alphabets used in tackling mathematical problems. In other words, it could be said that, its meaning is contextual in derivation. The journalist woulr always abbreviate , that's why we had short-hand writing although, people don't ho old fashion writing but just record these days. Hence, its not entirely bad to abbreviate Chrismas as X-mas. The message is past and that's the main idea but I can agree its not generally accepted and that's okay.

[franky1]

for me, what i see is that many religious people care too much about the ettiquete of promoting their religious beliefs and yet by promoting their religious loyalty. they are then acting like annoying, vengeful control freaks.

religion is suppose to be about respecting those around you, not getting angry, turning the other cheeks and such. yet i see it happen many times
"oh my goodness, you didnt go to church at 10am on a sunday. you should die in a pit of fire"
"you havnt read the bible in 10 years and cant quote me the correct passage, die sinner die"
"you call it xmas, thats disrespecting to a 2000y.o. skeletons biography. how dare you"

doesnt really sound very peace, loving, respectful

if you care more about people quoting passages from a 2000yo book verbatim, rather than just read the old law's and the fables/stories in it which teach law and order and how people should act. then you have missed the entire purpose of the book

it doesnt matter if you know every word of the fable "the boy who cried wolf", it doesnt matter if you change the name of the boy. what actually matter is that you learn never to lie about something happening when it hasnt happened, because sooner or later people stop listening to you. then when the event does happen and you try to warn them, they wont take you serious.

prime example "jesus's second coming is nigh, he will be reborn and save us soon".. yawn heard that a million times. not interested. and if it did happen. pfft, probably a lie too

its like the loaves and fishes. its not about knowing how many loaves or reading that it was a miracle. it was about even if you think you have a little bit, sharing it can help more then yourself.

if you just want to be one of those religious people that care more about exact quotes, and not the underlying meaning of the context. well you are the one disrespecting the efforts of the original stories purpose

it doesnt matter if he is called jesus or messiah or Yeshua or Iesous.

[Rruchi man]

X is also a cross.. hmm.. and what shape was the thing that jesus was pinned to...... ooo yea a cross

so yea even a cross is actually 'on theme' for the season of celebration

I took time to go through all the replies, and this is especially striking. Since i read this reply, my perspective has really changed, whenever i now see the the "x" on the xmas, i see a slanted cross. This is a particular reason i love this forum, the exchange of perspectives. Wishing you all a wonderful new year ahead.

[CryptocurencyKing]

The 'X' comes from chi. It's not that it's something unknown, it's an abbreviation.

X represents the Greek letter chi, the initial letter in the word Xριστός (Chrīstos).

Chi followed by Rho (the first two letters of 'Christ' in Greek, see above) is a very old Christian symbol. So maybe if we wanted a slightly longer abbreviation, we could have Xpmas

Maybe Xmas should be pronounced Chi-mas?

This is really new and that's the beauty of participating in a highly educative and active community like the forum. Having variant ethnicity, religion and believes even in the same religion. It means, a lot could be trashed down to its minimum to present truth. I'm not entirely sure that's how the XMAS thing got promoted from but, it points to a logical truth too.

X is also a cross.. hmm.. and what shape was the thing that jesus was pinned to...... ooo yea a cross

so yea even a cross is actually 'on theme' for the season of celebration

I took time to go through all the replies, and this is especially striking. Since i read this reply, my perspective has really changed, whenever i now see the the "x" on the xmas, i see a slanted cross. This is a particular reason i love this forum, the exchange of perspectives. Wishing you all a wonderful new year ahead.

Even now, I continue to ponder on the notation in ways I've never before. Seeing things that lay bare in the open so clear and meaningful. A birth and a death on a cross, all intertwined in the promise of a redemption (xmas). People have been so creative over the years that, it takes a community that exchanges and values ideas to ration it out. There could be so much meaning in little things, only until you look hard enough. This is why Bitcointalkforum remains unique, users see the need to educate where the need applies.

[franky1]

heres some more prospective for you.

stories of a middle eastern celebrity were talked about in camp fires and gossip presumably from 0AD to ~150AD. passed to younger generations as fables and learning experiences of what to do and not do in life, aka moral laws.

they didnt get properly written down into whats known as the bible for hundreds of years. and the first celebration of christmas was not until 330AD. where the "celebration" was not turkey or gift giving, but literally just going to church for 'mass'.

so the christmas celebration is more about just giving a thankful prayer that some celebrity(mythical actor, or real) 2000 years ago changed the moral stance of some people/communities/countries.

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now here's a thought that might provoke something.
what modern event, celebrity act or real life persons actions would you think are worthy of gossiping about from now until say 2200. which then become a popular book of morals and basic law people follow.
it does not need to be real life real world action. it can be fictional acting celebrity. but what modern day parable (moral lesson) do you think can stretch the length of time and still thought about in say the year 4000

for instance.
what if in the year 4000, 3d holograms still play this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BImnSkhHt5w

[Newlifebtc]

so the christmas celebration is more about just giving a thankful prayer that some celebrity(mythical actor, or real) 2000 years ago changed the moral stance of some people/communities/countries.

adding is small clue also from the one you contributed is the time of sharing what you have to another person that does not have and the same thing to people or some body that  have, praying in church is what we know like Christmas closely

[thirdeyeopen76]

It's interchangeable.