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February 24, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
 #101

For what I know, there is not much doubt that when Penelope is around, Almodóvar gets at least a nomination. This is all a very corrupt (perhaps corrupt may be too much) a a system. People in the academy sometimes are old glories that may be selling their votes for work or compensations of shorts and is all about a show of sponsoring brands and product placement by the "artists". We should re-think if all this is to the benefit of the arts.

e.g. Penelope does not do theatre. That is where a true actress shows what's got.

It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.

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February 24, 2022, 01:28:56 PM
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There are sportsbooks that have the list of odds already for Oscar Awards.
But I don't know if this kind of event really does attract the interest of gamblers.
And it is true, the judges are of great influence with the results.
Some are not confident to place bet because it depends on the mood of those judges.
We don't know their criteria of judging as it evolves thru time, their preferences and whatnot.

Ow, this betting activity is somehow kind of new to me, and in fairness sportsbooks are ready for this huh. But like what you have said buddy, I don't think this kind of event will really do attract the interest of gamblers because it is somehow like a fixed game, you may not be so sure who will be the one that would be awarded as Oscars winners. But still, I would like to see the list of the odds of those who are on top of the betting lists and maybe if it would interest me I would try to put my luck on trying to bet on it.
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February 24, 2022, 04:34:11 PM
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As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.
 

Fixed match similar to what occurs to any sport like boxing or basketball games where referees, coaches or referees can be paid to influence the winners and losers of a game?

In any case, an argument can be made that match fixing in boxing or games similar to football and basketball are much easier than fixing the Oscars because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.





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February 24, 2022, 10:36:17 PM
 #104

because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?
Welp, good thing it works like that, as long as the voters are many in numbers and in different place to avoid influincing each other then it would be a relief.
The only hard thing to do is to watch all of the best movies/entries and decide the vote.

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February 25, 2022, 03:58:08 AM
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As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.
 

Fixed match similar to what occurs to any sport like boxing or basketball games where referees, coaches or referees can be paid to influence the winners and losers of a game?

In any case, an argument can be made that match fixing in boxing or games similar to football and basketball are much easier than fixing the Oscars because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.




This might be because there are rumors that are being leaked by Oscar voters and insiders on which movies’ nominations are getting much of the votes. The voting process has already begun on January 27 and ended on February 1 for the 9000 members of the academy. However, similar to the other Oscar awards, sometimes we should not assume that their victory is a certainty. The minor categories will show you this.

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February 26, 2022, 08:18:50 AM
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because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?
Welp, good thing it works like that, as long as the voters are many in numbers and in different place to avoid influincing each other then it would be a relief.
The only hard thing to do is to watch all of the best movies/entries and decide the vote.
Influencing others? I think the more the people the more the influence can happen but no matter how low or high the voters are but if they will decided to cook the voting or the competition, it will be cooked. For those who didn't know the term cook or cooking is like a biased or unfair way of judging.

We think a judge is not enough to judge the quality of the films but we didn't know what if those judge are better than the other (academy of motion picture and science members) but that's fine if they are included, that can gave us extra confidence that the voting is fair. Watching the films carefully in our own can help us know if the judging was accurate or not.

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February 26, 2022, 05:45:13 PM
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I am going to bet on Belfast. One of the best movies I have ever seen in my entire life. These kind of movies are not made anymore. Very informative, educational, heartbreaking, moving and beautiful piece of work. Such a treat to watch and it leaves on your mind for days.

For actor I am going to bet on Will Smith – I am his fan by the time I watched the movie “ the pursuit of happyness” He did an amazing job in King Richard too.  I like the thread, I will keep following it!

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February 26, 2022, 07:24:34 PM
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Thats quite a commendation as most movies are popcorn fodder even if entertaining they are forgotten because thats the best way to watch them in the moment in an action way, luckily my memory isnt great and I rewatch lots of movies in that way.   I do know what you mean what makes me think its in with a good chance and the subject matter being so controversial and heart breaking has to be ideal Oscar material.   Its ticking all the boxes Smiley

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February 26, 2022, 09:38:30 PM
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do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.


Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.  
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Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.

Everyone says that the favorite is Will Smith, and that's the only reason I believe he can win because the Oscar is bought, but I prefer to believe in my fundamentals.
Who should win is Benedict Cumberbatch, he represented a very difficult character, indecipherable, mysterious, silent, full of secrets in a constant internal conflict that dominates "Attack of the Dogs" moving the pieces of that game. It is also worth mentioning that we have a British man playing a real American cowboy in a delicate work to contain the accent and print his own way of speaking.

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February 27, 2022, 09:20:12 PM
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For what I know, there is not much doubt that when Penelope is around, Almodóvar gets at least a nomination. This is all a very corrupt (perhaps corrupt may be too much) a a system. People in the academy sometimes are old glories that may be selling their votes for work or compensations of shorts and is all about a show of sponsoring brands and product placement by the "artists". We should re-think if all this is to the benefit of the arts.

e.g. Penelope does not do theatre. That is where a true actress shows what's got.

It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.



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February 28, 2022, 02:28:52 AM
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@Silberman. Agreed. However, because we know that politics, self interest or social narratives influence how the 9000 members of the academy vote, how do we use this to make our bets? This is why I was asking what are the political and social storylines of 2021?

I speculate if Russia’s attack on Ukraine begun before the Oscar awards’ voting process, I reckon the movie that might have the most votes or with the most attention would be a movie like Belfast. The American movie industry is overflowing with liberals and progresives who use the movies and awards presentations as a medium to deliver their messages and ideas hehehe.

In any case, 1.66 odds for best original screenplay for Licorice Pizza is very good, I reckon.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/oscar-best-writing-original-screenplay/oscar-best-writing-original-screenplay-62060d3ba4ec5bd31f06ae37

The movie was good, however, not very good. It appeared to be created by artists for artists who lived during the early 1970s in the San Fernando Valley area.

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February 28, 2022, 06:12:26 PM
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do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.


After reading the list of nominations I watched The Power of the Dog last night. But I am not very impressed with the story. To me Belfast has an amazing story line. That is super amazing and is very educational as well.
I am backing Will Smith as well he acting style is amazing and I am his great fan too.
I am sporting Nicole Kidman too.
I will be waiting anxiously for the final day. Want to see if Will Smith takes home the Oscar this year.

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This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.

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Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.

Everyone says that the favorite is Will Smith, and that's the only reason I believe he can win because the Oscar is bought, but I prefer to believe in my fundamentals.
Who should win is Benedict Cumberbatch, he represented a very difficult character, indecipherable, mysterious, silent, full of secrets in a constant internal conflict that dominates "Attack of the Dogs" moving the pieces of that game. It is also worth mentioning that we have a British man playing a real American cowboy in a delicate work to contain the accent and print his own way of speaking.

Now, lies what kind of politics is within the Oscar Academy Awards.
Cumberbatch is a very good competitor of Smith on this category, but we don't know the mood of the judges today.
I watched Smith's movie, and quite good as well. But if people are looking for a much challenging role, I can really go for Cumberbatch.
Once the results are out, we will understand how this Oscar's are panning out. And you will know if betting on Oscar's is worth or not.
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This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.

I am quite certain that Dune will not have a chance to win the award for best picture. The academy also appears to have ignored Denis Villeneuve as a nominee for best director. However, it might win much of the awards in the minor categories like best visual effects, best film editing, best original score, best production design and in a major category, best cinematography. All of the odds have been presently listed in sportsbet.io and other sportsbooks beginning last week.


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March 02, 2022, 04:55:40 PM
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Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.
Definitely, the Oscar has lost some kind of adequacy in general.  After the Oscar for the fantastic "Avatar" film, I don't remember a single film that interested me at all, so that I realized that it was worthy of an award.  
And the point here is rather that the cinema and Hollywood are gradually heading towards the crisis of the genre, interesting, let alone worthy films less and less.  And lately, and in general one rubbish with computer special effects on the screens.

@mindrust I second that because I too don’t really remember any good movies, but we have to select based on what’s available to us and this applies only if one decides to to wager on this. Also it would be nice if the OP could have a poll, because it’s would be easier to wager based on the poll results so if possible do add the poll.
The only to movies I can see in my region on Netflix is The power of the dog and don’t look up.
I am looking forward to watch all the movies, which are nominated for the Oscar. Last day I was watching, the power of the dog and I failed to understand what made it nominated for Oscar. It seems like things are already decided and we are being fooled that it’s the people decision which decides the winner.

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March 02, 2022, 05:27:08 PM
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This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.
The tragedy of Macbeth is also an amazing movie - I am big fan of Shakespeare and I liked Macbeth since my college day. The movie is exact depiction of my idea in to hear  Denzel's saying "Lay on, Macduff; And damned be him that first cries, ‘Hold, enough!’" is gonna be epic! Frances Macdorman as one of the greatests female villains ever written,

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This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.
The tragedy of Macbeth is also an amazing movie - I am big fan of Shakespeare and I liked Macbeth since my college day. The movie is exact depiction of my idea in to hear  Denzel's saying "Lay on, Macduff; And damned be him that first cries, ‘Hold, enough!’" is gonna be epic! Frances Macdorman as one of the greatests female villains ever written,
I agree the tragedy of Macbeth is an amazing movie - This looks great but for those who are unaware, there was a recent film adaptation of Macbeth starring Michael Fassbender and Marion Cotillard which was beautifully shot and definitely worth a watch.
May Denzel win his third and Fran win her fourth Oscar for acting. Ameen

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It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.

This is quite logical. I'm used to the situation (I consider it normal) when experts represent the opinion of the majority or at least different cultural strata. But when experts exist in a vacuum and give each other awards for all sorts of bullshit like the Malevich square (just for example), it starts to piss me off and I stop paying attention to them.

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